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I was just about to ask the Manchester-Gatwick route only to read on here several pieces of speculation! I am surprised nothing has been announced by anyone yet. Needs to be soon, as each day people will begin to make make alternative travel plans.
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Virgin have already announced the LHR-MAN route will be operated using Airbus319s. BBC News - Virgin Atlantic to fly between Heathrow and Manchester
So you are looking for an airline thats operates A319, knowledge of UK airspace (particually Manchester and London Terminal areas) and good at quick turnarounds. I know where I'd put my money for an easy bet.
So you are looking for an airline thats operates A319, knowledge of UK airspace (particually Manchester and London Terminal areas) and good at quick turnarounds. I know where I'd put my money for an easy bet.
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Thanks V_2. I take it that from your post that this hint is alittle more than speculation? It would also be good to see a greater VS presence at MAN though. Cheers, DomyDom
Assuming Virgin win the Edinburgh + Aberdeen bmi slots, who would be a likely operator ?
While these 2 routes for Virgin would be primarily for connecting passengers, I doubt the passengers would be solely connecting. Would there perhaps be a conflict of interest in Easyjet operating these 2 Heathrow routes for Virgin while also operating routes in their own name from EDI + ABZ to other London airports ?
While these 2 routes for Virgin would be primarily for connecting passengers, I doubt the passengers would be solely connecting. Would there perhaps be a conflict of interest in Easyjet operating these 2 Heathrow routes for Virgin while also operating routes in their own name from EDI + ABZ to other London airports ?
I take it that from your post that this hint is alittle more than speculation?
Aer Lingus is a fair shout, although I think they only have 2 A319's so not sure if they'd be easily available. Although I suppose if its makes them money they'd make it happen. Also in EI's favour is the fact that VS LHR-MAN will be using T1 (not T3 as VS's other flights), so will be handled and checked-in by non-virgin staff. As EI are already in T1 that would make things easier to manage...Imagine we'll find out soon
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It's not anti-competitive to code share. If A.N.Other fancies a crack at flying against BA then they're free to try.
No one is likely to take on MAN-LGW, VS would be feeding a once a day wave to their beach fleet on long haul and that would be it. It's not enough in itself to make a business case given the weakening point to point market.
No one is likely to take on MAN-LGW, VS would be feeding a once a day wave to their beach fleet on long haul and that would be it. It's not enough in itself to make a business case given the weakening point to point market.
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EI and VS LHR
EI due to move to T2 ealry next year as T1 due for demolition, quite a lot of Terminal and Carrier/route moves coming in LHR not sure what impact this will have uf any on VS domestic
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Chaps;
EI have 2 319s committed to BHD for next summer, a 3rd will be doing some flights from LGW including daily Gatwick Knock rotation and an evening Gatwick Belfast City rotation to bring the route to 4 daily. That would suggest Gatwick based unit being changed to 319. Your suggestion would sound plausible otherwise.
Hangar6;
Are there rumours a foot that BA will consolidate its operations at T2 for itself and IB.? Thus bringing all business under one roof..?
While taking transfer bus between 5 and 1 yesterday I saw T2 construction, be amazed if it was complete in 2013.!
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EI have 2 319s committed to BHD for next summer, a 3rd will be doing some flights from LGW including daily Gatwick Knock rotation and an evening Gatwick Belfast City rotation to bring the route to 4 daily. That would suggest Gatwick based unit being changed to 319. Your suggestion would sound plausible otherwise.
Hangar6;
Are there rumours a foot that BA will consolidate its operations at T2 for itself and IB.? Thus bringing all business under one roof..?
While taking transfer bus between 5 and 1 yesterday I saw T2 construction, be amazed if it was complete in 2013.!
Ei-bud
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Virgin are looking to be the anchor tennant in the new T2 in the absence of bmi. It's now opening in early 2014 I believe, EI will also be moving in and T1 will be demolished! BA are staying split between the larger T5 and Oneworld in T3. There will be loads of room when and if, VS move out.
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virgin seem to be an oddity right now rather surprisingly its happened under
the nose of RB although i think his beloved airline is not his main interest anymore.
no airline alliance by now
big fleet variation now with more types to come..330 340 x 2 types
747 787 and maybe 777
A380 is well stalled now despite launch order years ago
huge bucks in spending out on 747-400 fleet refurbs
why not get rid of them and get the 2 engined fleet sooner ie more 330's and 777-300er
cutting fuel costs seems to be the word du jour down at virgin towers so am puzzled why keep the 747's ?
so much for four engines for long haul but times do change.
no wonder money is tight but tinkering again with short haul (how many times have VAA played with this)
business class
(upper class suite) is well past its sell by now and VAA haven't caught up with the rest of the legacy carriers in a new product only a re-hash of the now old and increasingly unpopular suite.
the new UC suite re-vamp is too slow to roll out at the moment and only 330's have it right now...
too much product inconsistency for premium class passengers, hence complaints rising...
many flights going out with cabin crew down. hence service issues.
stupid condescending PA announcements treating passengers as if they are
out on a Friday night booze up and must behave themselves or woe be tide them...sorry but they are gut churning.
on-board food in all classes is going down and down in quality and quantity.
too many complaints about not enough food loaded for upper and premium
cabins. (let alone the poor Y's)
the LHR clubhouse is one thing that pax love and performs well.
shame after 25 years of brand loyalty and product awareness that alot of loyal pax are not sticking with them. its decision time soon and
virgin should decide where and with whom they belong...
i used to handle VAA 747's from 1989 for many years and the product then in economy/ mid and upper was superb.
good food, plenty of it
a good seat, v good legroom great movies and wonderful crews...
hard to go back to basics ? i don't think so
the nose of RB although i think his beloved airline is not his main interest anymore.
no airline alliance by now
big fleet variation now with more types to come..330 340 x 2 types
747 787 and maybe 777
A380 is well stalled now despite launch order years ago
huge bucks in spending out on 747-400 fleet refurbs
why not get rid of them and get the 2 engined fleet sooner ie more 330's and 777-300er
cutting fuel costs seems to be the word du jour down at virgin towers so am puzzled why keep the 747's ?
so much for four engines for long haul but times do change.
no wonder money is tight but tinkering again with short haul (how many times have VAA played with this)
business class
(upper class suite) is well past its sell by now and VAA haven't caught up with the rest of the legacy carriers in a new product only a re-hash of the now old and increasingly unpopular suite.
the new UC suite re-vamp is too slow to roll out at the moment and only 330's have it right now...
too much product inconsistency for premium class passengers, hence complaints rising...
many flights going out with cabin crew down. hence service issues.
stupid condescending PA announcements treating passengers as if they are
out on a Friday night booze up and must behave themselves or woe be tide them...sorry but they are gut churning.
on-board food in all classes is going down and down in quality and quantity.
too many complaints about not enough food loaded for upper and premium
cabins. (let alone the poor Y's)
the LHR clubhouse is one thing that pax love and performs well.
shame after 25 years of brand loyalty and product awareness that alot of loyal pax are not sticking with them. its decision time soon and
virgin should decide where and with whom they belong...
i used to handle VAA 747's from 1989 for many years and the product then in economy/ mid and upper was superb.
good food, plenty of it
a good seat, v good legroom great movies and wonderful crews...
hard to go back to basics ? i don't think so
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Paxing All Over The World
so much for four engines for long haul but times do change.
- I think it has been reliably established that this was Airbus sponsored.
- Times have changed. If they insisted on sticking with 4 - and continued to lose money - would they be criticised for not moving with the times?
VS have won the Edinburgh + Aberdeen bmi slots
BBC News - Virgin Atlantic offered Heathrow links to Edinburgh and Aberdeen
BBC News - Virgin Atlantic offered Heathrow links to Edinburgh and Aberdeen
Does the commencement of three new domestic routes mean VS are more likely to join an alliance, to fill their capacity with transfer pax and compete more effectively with BA?
Does the commencement of three new domestic routes mean VS are more likely to join an alliance, to fill their capacity with transfer pax and compete more effectively with BA?
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Does the commencement of three new domestic routes mean VS are more likely to join an alliance, to fill their capacity with transfer pax and compete more effectively with BA?
Give yourself a Star.
