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Old 4th Mar 2012, 01:49
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Could anyone explain how the 25p ETS charge is worked out? If you try and do a voluntary offset for a short haul sector, the price is closer to £1-2, although I'm sure that still includes a bleeding hearts margin.

So for once, is MOL passing on the charge at the same rate it costs him?
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 07:32
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add this to the fact FR are paying more to fly from BUD than they wanted to pay...
More than €0 then?
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 08:34
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GRX has never been off the map, since FR left there... And I don't know where you are looking, but CGN is on the map for me...
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 12:38
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More than €0 then?
Lets just say its up there with STN and DUB, and we all know they are not happy with the fees at those airprots.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 08:38
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Ryanair cancels 13 Budapest flights over "bizarre and stupid" border control practice

Hungarians seem to be particularly adept at turning good things into problems. Can't help wonder how much this was influenced by the Wizz Air CEO, who used to run Malev.

PORTFOLIO.HU | Ryanair cancels 13 Budapest flights over "bizarre and stupid" border control practice
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 09:06
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Mol hopes "Common sense will prevail". That's new, as he normally can only see "£" signs. Sorry, Euros. Unreasonable? Perhaps, but why shouldn't Hungarian authorities play hard ball? It's their turf.
Meanwhile, only the crew and pax are inconvenienced. At least some things haven't changed.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 09:26
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"FR crews are based in Budapest for immigration and customs purposes while at the meantime are Dublin based for inland revenue and social security duties?"

And a lot of Wizz Air "employees" are based in BUD (and elsewhere) throughout their network, whilst paying "Swiss Tax" on their earnings - and neglecting to take care of tax liabilities nearer home.

So, I don't think Ryanair are any worse than Wizz Air in this particular instance.

As for how, or why Ryanair is being singled out, you can ask are their Chickens coming home to roost? For so long MOL has belittled and bullied others, that it is a joy to see his "plans" not working smoothly.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 09:29
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Ryanair cancels 13 Budapest flights over "bizarre and stupid" border control practice

-Or perhaps just a convenient excuse to cancel flights and save a bit of dosh.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 09:34
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This story has been running on the Ryanair thread in AA&R for a couple of days now.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 09:35
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Or maybe its the lack of crew...Everyone guessed that the summer would be bad but it looks like they cocked up the March roster requirements as well
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 09:36
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Surely if the crews are not going landside there is no requirement for immigration checks? Do Wizzair have to do the same? Looks like a bit of good old government protectionism to me.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 10:09
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Well I can confirm that in this case Ryanair is right. Their Policy is really screwed up.

If you're coming from non schengen and planning on doing two more sectors you still have to get out of the airplane. Close it up, walk inside the terminal to the passport control and then get airside again.
Walk to the airplane where you now need to do the security checks all over again.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 10:17
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Doesn't matter if the policy is wrong, if you want to play in someone elses backyard, you play by their rules. If not, play somewhere else.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 10:25
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Doesn't matter if the policy is wrong, if you want to play in someone elses backyard, you play by their rules. If not, play somewhere else.
= my way or the highway !

Who was it that said that ?
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 11:52
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MOL press conference in Alicante tomorrow .
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 12:22
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MOL press conference in Alicante tomorrow .
No need to go there if its bad news so must be positive......
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 12:41
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Problems in BUD are becoming more clear. The reason two flights were not allowed to depart was because crew would not clear Border Police and not what Ryanair put up on its website.

Operator of BUD will mediate between the Police and Ryanair.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 13:14
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So tell me again why they are cancelling the flight if the crew only have to go through the same thing as the pax.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 13:14
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Doesn't matter if the policy is wrong, if you want to play in someone elses backyard, you play by their rules. If not, play somewhere else.
Not if those rules are in breach of existing EU laws.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 13:27
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Maybe mol was reminded by Ryanair investors that they put money in Wizz too... so don't go compete with our own crowd...
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