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Easyjet load factor is up a whole 1% over the last 6 month at 86.64%. Ryanair
load factor is around 78.4% (over same 6 months), that is over 8% lower than
Easyjet. It is clear that Ryanair is getting things badly wrong and cutting
capacity is not improving load factors.
Easyjet on the other hand are focused on higher frequency on routes that connect convenient airports (primary airports in the main). This is in line with a focus on business travellers. This strategy is in clear contract to Ryanair's, and it is an admission that in terms of cost Easyjet cant compete profitably in many markets against Ryanair. In many markets where Easyjet is well established and well known locally, it can sustain competition against Ryanair e.g. BRS, LPL, STN.
Ryanair's profitability is far superior and I have to agree with another post here, that fact that Ryanair's performance was in line with their strategy and the outcomes were largely as expected.
Going forward, the challenge is a lack of growth and with the absence of a stream of new aircraft summer growth will be challenged over recent years levels. I expect that when the fleet size doesnt grow Ryanair will be focused on where it deploys its resources in a bid to maximuse returns.
That's if it wants to continue to grow profit and shareholder returns, as one would expect.
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First of all, Ryanair as a rule has not given share holders much of a return, just saving the money in the bank (for the next big aircraft order 
), where as easyJet has given regular dividends. Hence why the share price hasn't grown at the same right. But im glad to of jump ship, the grass is much greener.
easyJets A319 - 156 seats, A320 - 180 seats.
On a final note, I'd like to say well done to all the crew on the BGY-EMA, a job well done. The decompression trainning in CRMS is excellent, the new video for crew about a decompression has been proven a great trainning tool. Really helps show both flight deck and cabin crew just what each other are doing durrin the 15 minutes post decompression.
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), where as easyJet has given regular dividends. Hence why the share price hasn't grown at the same right. But im glad to of jump ship, the grass is much greener.easyJets A319 - 156 seats, A320 - 180 seats.
On a final note, I'd like to say well done to all the crew on the BGY-EMA, a job well done. The decompression trainning in CRMS is excellent, the new video for crew about a decompression has been proven a great trainning tool. Really helps show both flight deck and cabin crew just what each other are doing durrin the 15 minutes post decompression.
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Easy jet shares have outperformed ryanairs for the last 8 years without fail! Ryanairs are in euros not sterling!!!! So I don't know where u get your information from
I presume you will of course provide your comparable data.
First of all, Ryanair as a rule has not given share holders much of a return, just saving the money in the bank (for the next big aircraft order ), where as easyJet has given regular dividends. Hence why the share price hasn't grown at the same right. But im glad to of jump ship, the grass is much greener.
), where as easyJet has given regular dividends. Hence why the share price hasn't grown at the same right. But im glad to of jump ship, the grass is much greener.
Ryanair to pay first dividend since flotation - FT.com
Ryanair announced 1st dividends of €500 million in June 2010
BBC News - Today - EasyJet pay out first dividend as profits soar
Easyjet announced 1st dividends of £150 million in November 2011
Shareprice has little to do with dividends as if that were the case then Face-book, Microsoft, Apple, Google would not be worth more than the companies than pay dividends.
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I stand corrected, but dividends do effect the share price. I dont think this is reallt the place to be talking about share prices. I wouldnt inviest in either of them, just the free shares from easyJet for me. No much of a return from either.
Any new bases? How many aircraft will be grounded next winter, memos are already out asking crew to talk unpaid leave. Are we to expect major cuts again?
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Any new bases? How many aircraft will be grounded next winter, memos are already out asking crew to talk unpaid leave. Are we to expect major cuts again?
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No matter what they write, every publicity is good for us, it seems to be Ryanair's attitude. Well, yes, maybe. Anyway, let's mention just an other press article, this time from Malta: Angry travellers demand action on Ryanair official - timesofmalta.com
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I did not hit her. All I did was throw my passport at her
Let me translate and shorten the above article:
"I didn't read the terms and conditions of my ticket. I then threw a hissy fit stroke temper tantrum at someone who was merely carrying out the instructions of their employer and doing their job. What I didn't count on was that my childish, petulant behaviour was no match for the Italian senorina in question who wasn't a meek British lamb but a hot blooded, fire breathing latin lady who had seen it all before and worse and I came out of the whole episode on the back foot instead of shooting the messenger. Other passengers have tried and have come off just as bad."
I've seen some of the verbal and physical abuse meted out by angry passengers and I've seen their statements after the event and they usually fall into the above category. It's totally unacceptable and it looks like the courts have seen right through it.
No matter what they write, every publicity is good for us, it seems to be Ryanair's attitude. Well, yes, maybe. Anyway, let's mention just an other press article, this time from Malta: Angry travellers demand action on Ryanair official - timesofmalta.com
Pee you seem to suggest that its ok for someone to abuse someone because they don't get their way.
Interesting that the passenger in the queue pretty much demolished Ms Edwards version of events and highlighted her agressiveness early on.
Next time the passenger has a choice and can go elsewhere.
Like I said before Racedo, ryanairs shares trade in euro and easy jet trade in sterling. So that chart you have provided is wrong!
Ryanair is traded on London Stock Exchange as well as on Dublin and New York exchanges and for shares bought in UK you pay for the shares in Sterling, the shares are compared over the last 5 years on the sterling values so you can compare like with like.
Data is from LSE so if you disagree in their methods please feel free to take it up with them.
So can you please provide the details to back up your claim or were you just blowing smoke ?
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Befree, I wouldn't agree that the load factor tells us a tale that Ryanair is getting the thing wrong. A large proportion of Ryanair's markets are leisure orientated, and low frequency and as a result would not do particularly well in the winter. Hence these routes are seasonal.
Ryanair's profitability is far superior and I have to agree with another post here, that fact that Ryanair's performance was in line with their strategy and the outcomes were largely as expected.
Ryanair's profitability is far superior and I have to agree with another post here, that fact that Ryanair's performance was in line with their strategy and the outcomes were largely as expected.
Must admit not thought of this before but based on 12 month rolling (and mix of Airframes in U2's case), FR carry 155 people on average per flight while U2 carry on average 138 per flight...........kinda gives a different perspective on load factors.
Even using March stats the numbers are still 9-10 passengers per plane in FR's favour which with ancillary income makes a difference.
Question is that will U2 be able to get 88% if they transitioned to an all A320 fleet.
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Oh dear. Ryanair endearing themselves to the paying public again.
I used to wonder what had happened to all the traffic wardens until the recent boom in aviation showed me.
The ryanair attitude is all very well but once you upset customers you won't see them again.
I have used ryanair with no problems and will again but I would travel 100 miles further and pay more to avoid them.
I used to wonder what had happened to all the traffic wardens until the recent boom in aviation showed me.
The ryanair attitude is all very well but once you upset customers you won't see them again.
I have used ryanair with no problems and will again but I would travel 100 miles further and pay more to avoid them.