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Old 31st Mar 2011, 09:13
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Another Ryanair scam

ATW reports that Ryanair.com is to introduce a levy of 2 Euro's per sector to cover compensation that it legally bound to pay to passengers that it dumps whether it views that it is its own fault or that of some other body/volcano/snow/ATC/God

A nice little earner if you sell 70m seats a year to add to the wheel chair levy to cover its cost because you can't run to the aircraft.

Incoming from Racedo FR to follow

BTW did you see the Ryanair PR (PR**K) guy on the telly saying and i quote " we do not charge a CC/DC fee its an admin fee" which you can avoid by using a pre paid card, his body language said read my lips i'm lying to you.

I really feel that if they can't run their business without lying/cheating& acting like con men they should pack up, little wonder their growth is stalling
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 09:20
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Bitter ex employee?
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 11:54
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Ryanair appears to have become the new taxman
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 13:16
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Nope, never worked for them or applied or ever likely to do. Flown with you once ( i wasn't paying so got no say) don't drive a VW made in Puebla, Mexico, either

Question for FR

Is there anything at which your blind admiration would say enough?

Not bitter, just a cancer on the industry that used to regard its self as professional.

Still what goes around tends to come around
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 13:26
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Bitter ex employee?
An oxymoron?

Now I could understand a Ryanair employee being bitter, but surely an ex Ryanair employee would be happy, most ex Ryanair pilots i have met are very happy! to be out of Ryanair.

To be fair i have met some happy Ryanair pilots as well, well at least they had big smiles after doing their circuits on bank of Dad's credit card lol
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 13:27
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Is there anything at which your blind admiration would say enough?

Not bitter, just a cancer on the industry that used to regard its self as professional.

Still what goes around tends to come around
To be fair - the majority of their 'charges' are either optional or they are exempt on offers. With the likes of BA etc they're compulsory. It's all about what are charges and what aren't. They say their average fee is ~£30. That's probably right, without the likes of priority boarding, card fees, baggage etc. At the end of the day it's all about what the final price is.

I personally love flying FR because I don't often take large amounts of luggage with me and I'm guaranteed an extra legroom seat with 38+ inches.

Regarding them seeming to be an amateur show. They have the best on time record, newest aircraft, largest European network and carry more passengers internationally than any other airline on the planet.

I would agree though that they aren't the most tact (I'm assuming that's what you mean by 'professional' as opposed to how their operations work?). MOL has been the driving force behind this. A true marketing guru. His PR technique, however, is another story...

Businesses are there to make money for their shareholders in the free world - MOL and Ryanair know what they're doing.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 14:03
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just a cancer on the industry that used to regard its self as professional
Could you tell us in what way you consider Ryanair flight crew (i.e. pilots) to be 'unprofessional'?

I happened to be chatting the other day with a very senior training captain in a major carrier with no association whatsoever with Ryanair - he described our training as 'impeccable'. Odd really that he should say that if we are a cancer on the industry and unprofessional. Equally strange that Ryanair pilots seem to be quite succesful at getting into more 'professional' airlines like BA and EK if we are as dreadful as you imply.

Can I just add that to be described as a 'cancer' is more than a little distasteful - I personally know four individuals who have died of that tragic condition in the last two weeks and I think that you could perhaps use a more appropriate term to vent your hatred of us.

Speaking personally I can only say that myself and my colleagues do our best day after day to get our passengers (whoever paid for their ticket) to their destination safely, punctually and with the minimum of fuss. Not unlike most other airlines really.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 15:03
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Ryanair pilots are some of the best trained and best paid on the European circuit.

Although they take on a number of pilots their selection process is quite demanding - an IAA license is compulsary. Conversions are obviously a possibility.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 15:22
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Facelookb........

If you dont fly with them why are you SOOOO bothered !

'Is there anything at which your blind admiration would say enough?'

Yes and I have made it known on here

MM

PS:70+ million sado-masochists cannot ALL be wrong!
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 15:28
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Well said MickeyMan.

I would also like to say that I've always felt the way flight crews have handled flights extremely professionally when I've flown Ryanair. Flying with them at least 10 times a year.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 15:46
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PS:70+ million sado-masochists cannot ALL be wrong!
Wanna bet?

The issue with Ryanair is that about 50% of their pilots don't work for Ryanair but come in through Brookfield, a contract agency / specialist. The ones that I know don't feel that they are the best paid in Europe by any means. Having said that there is nothing intrinsically unsafe about Ryanair if you discount taxi-ing like a looney in case you're a bit late.

Conversions are obviously a possibility.
Just so long as the candidate forks out for it themselves, along with their uniform et al.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 15:56
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"70+ million sado-masochists cannot ALL be wrong!"

Wanna bet?
70m+ vs. a few people on a forum? Behave.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 15:58
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70m+ vs. a few people on a forum? Behave.
70m might use cheap toilet paper but it doesn't mean they don't want to move to Andrex....
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 16:02
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Andrex is awful but that's besides the point!
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 16:20
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And here we go yet again...

Having said that there is nothing intrinsically unsafe about Ryanair if you discount taxi-ing like a looney in case you're a bit late.
Taxi-ing like a looney is a very bad idea - we have taxi limits like everyone else does and they're monitored- the OFDM doesn't turn a blind eye to such things and I personally would not like to have to explain why lunatic taxi-ing had been taking place. 'Being a bit late' doesn't really cut it as an excuse now does it.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 16:31
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I was actually talking about the airline and its management, not repeat not its flight or cabin crew.

70 m pax, so what? ever heard the term running around like busy fools

Its a company that depends on hand outs, from airport companies, its staff, its business partners, to drive prices down and its convinced the green lobby that flying it should be taxed to death.

It is an airline that professional pilots aspire to leave, in any event fewer and fewer work for the airline, but as contractors, in order that Ryanair can reduce is social taxes, avoid unions and take it or lump it attitude
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 19:33
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ASFKAP

You appear to have argued yourself out of your OWN point......well done!

Another dissatisfied non-customer rant - are you STILL an ex-employee?

Facelookb......

Oh dear ...and YOU thought you were doing so WELL.Still - must of seemed an easy target for you ? Silly details called Facts keep getting in the way - but hey! you dont travel with them anyway.....oops I'm getting repetitive so .....

MM
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 20:10
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Ah come on fellahs......... Stop the digging at each other.

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Old 31st Mar 2011, 20:51
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MUFC-fan - can I sit with you and get 38'' of leg-room please!
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 23:09
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I do not understand why airlines are expected to compensate passengers for delayed or cancelled flights when this has happened due to external forces over which the airline has no control. Ryanair had little choice but to take this step especially as the cost of compensation is usually massively disproportionate to the fare the passenger has paid in their case. I think other airlines are highly likely to do the same.
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