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Old 30th Jul 2011, 11:01
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Well most ground staff and crews know that most PAX leave their common sense at home when they go to an airport. The great British tradition of queuing generally takes priority over everything in my experience.

I have had many disagreements with PAX who believe that our priorities should be entirely organised around the order in which they joined the queue. For example able bodied couples will frequently object to "not being able to sit together" if you give a mother and small child behind them in the check-in queue priority for seating together.
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Old 30th Jul 2011, 11:06
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Flight number is not displayed within site of the common bag drop queue at LPL
That may be the case but there are huge Flight Information boards on entry to the terminal that will specify the destination by flight number. Now if the person calling passengers to come forward used a different destination name, I may have some sympathy with their cause. But really, if they do not understand the variety of names of their holiday destination, I doubt they would ever have much chance on a return flight from some holiday destination airports based on announcements.
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Old 30th Jul 2011, 13:50
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So basically blueplatinum your view is there is no way these 23 people can accept any respobibility themselves for missing the flight.

I am sorry, I know Liverpool, and I know there is a common check in for Ryanair yet as soon as I walk in the terminal I check the screens, and I am not alone in doing this quite often there is a scrum around them. I suspect there are very few people who don't, especially someone flying to a new destination ( you can be pretty sure that anyone previously fliying to GC knows the airport is also referred to, however incorrectly in your personal view, as Las Palmas).

Whilst accepting your point about Las Palmas / Gran Canaria as the name of the airport to say these people bear no personal responsibility for missing the flight is wrong as is to blame Ryanair in total.
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Old 30th Jul 2011, 14:28
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I didn't say that. If they were running out of time they should have approached the desk and made themselves known to the staff. Many PAX do not have the confidence to do this though.

The only point I was trying to make is that ground staff (in this case Serviceair, FR do not use their own staff on the ground in LPL) should have thought more carefully and maybe used the phrase "Any more for Las Palmas or Gran Canaria?" or something along those lines.

I have been quite surprised by some of the comments here. I still don't know why people think Joe Public would know anything about "Las Palmas" when they have booked a flight to "Gran Canaria" especially if they have not been there before.

I am sure we can agree to differ anyway

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Old 30th Jul 2011, 14:40
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I still don't know why people think Joe Public would know anything about "Las Palmas" when they have booked a flight to "Gran Canaria" especially if they have not been there before.
No different to booking a flight to Majorca and flying to Palma, or to Menorca and flying to Mahon, or Lanzarote and flying to Arrecife or the Algarve and flying to Faro, or to Crete and flying to Heraklion or Chania, and so on.
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Old 30th Jul 2011, 14:46
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No different to booking a flight to Majorca and flying to Palma, or to Menorca and flying to Mahon, or Lanzarote and flying to Arrecife or the Algarve and flying to Faro, or to Crete and flying to Heraklion or Chania, and so on.
Exactly. I am glad we are in agreement.
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Old 30th Jul 2011, 15:56
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And you may find that the Servisair staff aren't aware either
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IMHO, the likes of these 23PAX should stick to thomascook in the future. They'll get treated like kids and won't have to bother if it is Gran Canaria or Las Palmas.
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Old 31st Jul 2011, 12:01
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I fly on a regular basis so do actually know of the differences, but even now (even without baggage) I check the departure boards for my flight.

Simple reason, Is it on-time?

Therefore, I know my flight is on-time or delayed (MAIN REASON), which gate to check in (if required), and the destination!!!!

I normally do ACE (Lanzarote), but never seen it displayed as Lanzarote, always as Arrecife, I assume that this is the same with LPA, TFS, TFN etc.

Never seen Gran Canaria on any departure board. Is this the class of passenger that flies Ryanair?????

Stand back and wait for incoming!
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Old 1st Aug 2011, 13:19
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If they were running out of time they should have approached the desk and made themselves known to the staff. Many PAX do not have the confidence to do this though
But have the confidence to then blame everyone but themselves and sue who they think fit for their complete and utter lack of ability to think for themselves without someone holding their hand.....sorry I have no sympathy at all, if your flight take off time is fast approaching and you still haven't got through check in let alone security, you would do something about it. If the ground staff in this situation were saying Las Palmas, didn't these people think to question them about their flight, even if it did say Gran Canaria on their documentation? Sorry that would involve thinking and oh dear that's someone elses job.......?

Its not just confined to FR, I remember working on the ground at BHX in the early noughties and dealt with a woman who missed a BY flight to Paphos because she was sitting in the then Eurohub and quote words along these lines 'couldn't see it on the departure screens so thought i'd just wait until I did', a family that turned up for a flight at 2355 when in fact it had left at 1155 that morning and a hen party who turned up with no documentation and only knew the name of the hotel they were staying in but not the airline, flight number or destination. And don't even get me started on that 'Airline' programme that EZY (foolishly?) took part in.....Charge peanuts and you will get a few as passengers.......
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Old 1st Aug 2011, 14:06
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Sorry to detract away from the topic guys, i've asked a similar question in the Easyjet thread...

Do Ryanair have a crew base at Leeds Bradford (LBA)? I ask as I just wondered how a pilot is rostered on to flights. If there is a base at Leeds, is the work spread out evenly, or do the more 'scenic and enjoyable' routes get given to the veterans? Also, do bases cover each others work should there be a crew shortage?

Many thanks guys, happy flying
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Old 1st Aug 2011, 14:27
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I'm certain Ryanair doesn't have any 'veterans' as it were.
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Old 1st Aug 2011, 15:14
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1) Yes.
2) Central rostering department.
3) Flying is pretty well evenly distributed amonst crews.
4) Contractors are often sent to other bases to cover shortages.
Can't speak specifically for Leeds but the above is normal for almost all bases.

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Old 1st Aug 2011, 20:41
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Ryanair expected to start flights from Stansted - St. Gallen-Altenrhein, Switzerland from 19 September.

They will advertise it Zurich - St. Gallen. Airport located approx 103km/64miles from Zurich.
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Old 1st Aug 2011, 20:49
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2 questions come to mind:

1 - Is 1500m long enough for a 737-800, or is there perhaps an expectation of limited passenger numbers / an extension to be built in the next 12 months ?
2 - Why is St Gallen expected to work when Friedrichshafen didn't ? Are St Gallen really paying that much in marketing subsidies ?
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Old 1st Aug 2011, 21:21
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No expert but would say its could be done with passenger restrictions and the aircraft would not require full tank of fuel as its not a long flight.
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Old 1st Aug 2011, 22:34
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It could probably be done with passenger restrictions. As I said its not confirmed and if it does happon then they will be getting a lot of money for it.
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Old 1st Aug 2011, 23:23
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When will Ryanair have summer 2012 on sale.
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Old 1st Aug 2011, 23:29
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When will Ryanair have summer 2012 on sale.
The initial summer 2012 schedule will be bookable by end of August. MAN and BOH are on sale now.
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 14:57
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Ryanair have lost there case about air-bridge use in ALC. The judge said that they have to pay the charges and use them.

Summer 2012 from there will be interesting
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