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Old 14th Mar 2012, 20:59
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Ryanair said today that they would not start flights from Badajoz because they don't have the aircraft to do so.
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 00:38
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A big focus now is finding the most profitable routes for the 300 aircraft, seeing as there will no longer be A/C growth, PAX and revenue growth has to come from the most sustainable and profitable routes, so expect a lot of network changes in the next 18 months.
Can think of someone on here that will annoy as that gets away from his mantra of Ryanair not thinking of profitability and how fuel costs will destroy them etc etc
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 00:46
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Ryanair said today that they would not start flights from Badajoz because they don't have the aircraft to do so.
No they don't. With a population c. 100k, little by way of inbound tourism, is Badajoz Spain's answer to Norwich? Certainly not enough Q400s in FR's fleet to serve this market.
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No they don't. With a population c. 100k, little by way of inbound tourism, is Badajoz Spain's answer to Norwich? Certainly not enough Q400s in FR's fleet to serve this market.
Norwich surprisingly has a pop of 300,000, however it is quite limited in terms of ability to attract enough people there to use an airport with only 440,000 using its airport last year.
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 12:41
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I'd say it's more of an issue of not having pilots to fly the 737s.
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 12:49
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Norwich surprisingly has a pop of 300,000, however it is quite limited in terms of ability to attract enough people there to use an airport with only 440,000 using its airport last year.
Thats hardly a bad figure, given that (assuming all passengers both departed and arrived through NWI) 210,000 used the airport last year. That would equate to 74% of the population of Norwich. Of course I would assume that the catchment area is significantly bigger than 300,000 though, and then consider that STN isn't too far away!
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I heard some rumors that Ryanair will serve Madrid and Dublin from Cologne...possible? Your opinions?

It looks like they have very high yields on Cologne-Palma/Girona.
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Thats hardly a bad figure, given that (assuming all passengers both departed and arrived through NWI) 210,000 used the airport last year. That would equate to 74% of the population of Norwich. Of course I would assume that the catchment area is significantly bigger than 300,000 though, and then consider that STN isn't too far away!
And also assuming that 100% of departing using NWI were on their outbound leg, ie no inbound tourists / business pax?

My reference to NWI was more that Badajoz is out of the way.

Higher yields from CGN v HHN or NRN not surprising considering it is so much better connected by road and rail. More evidence of Ryanair becoming the high yield airline rather than the low cost one!
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 14:56
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Kind of curiosity, but let's mention it.

Have you heard of any planned connections to feed into Ryanair flights? Yes, sure, it can be true with buses, but do you know of any flights?

Åland Islands is a Swedish-speaking region of Finland on the Baltic sea. As announced, the small local Air Åland is going to start flights from Mariehamn to Turku and, as their CEO says, they count on passengers changing there into FR flights to London.

A good initiative, even it's hardly the official cooperation. So far Ryanair do not want to cooperate with anybody in such questions, being reluctant to provide any connections even within their own network. A pity, I'd say.

You can read more about this issue here (in Swedish).
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A good initiative, even it's hardly the official cooperation. So far Ryanair do not want to cooperate with anybody in such questions, being reluctant to provide any connections even within their own network. A pity, I'd say.
Never say never and its possible a side deal done or an understanding which is completely non contractual for both side.
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 17:16
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2010 RYR make what they say were excellent profits, (€300ish) but none given back to improve general conditions. Pax given a basic service as advertised by MOL in his Brussels innovation lecture roadshow. All in all they claim they have to squeeze the guys & gals to survive as the worlds favourite airline. In 2010 Lufthansa has some of the best T's & C's anywhere, certainly EU; the pax receive a high level experience as befits a legacy carrier. Profit €1.1bn. So who is doing it the correct way? OK, LH say they will lose money winter 2011, but so will nearly everyone including RYR. I suspect if you look at total profits over the last 10 years of turmoil I suspect RYR will not top the list despite their scrooge mentality. LH will be up there. And looking at KLM's €100 return tickets to many EU destinations, including 23kgs of baggage, 2 pieces, in the cabin, of a usually un-weighed 10kgs; free transfer onto the earlier return flight; always a smile and helpful. BA & LH often match these prices. Why do so many still trawl around the skies in a cramped scruffy seat with so many add-ons that others take for granted? Beats me. Seems too many have been brain-washed into believing that's the way it has to be for a cheap price. Not so.
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 17:27
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I fly Ryanair because they fly from my local airport, EMA, to plenty of destinations. I would love to go on BA or LH, but I would have to go to LHR and pay much more.
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 17:30
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VC10man......me too.
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 18:21
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I fly Ryanair because they fly from my local airport, EMA, to plenty of destinations.
I can see, however, a significant asymmetry there. From EMA one can fly to, say, Limoges, France. And indeed, to dozens of other destinations as well. But in addition to EMA the locals from Limoges can fly just to few other places, all in the UK. Bad for them, bad for Ryanair, as it cuts some potential sources of income. People from Limoges would love to have better choice of destinations. But - pertaining to the issue of connecting flights - FR do not provide such opportunities.
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 19:17
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Flybe do though!
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 19:52
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Lufthansa make their money from long-haul and premium prices. Fr don't do either. I guess if you compared LH's average fare with FR's average, you would find a huge gap!
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 20:00
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There are many opportunities of connecting flights with Ryanair, and I have often taken advantage of these opportunities when there is no direct flight, for instance : BDS-BGY-CRL, NYO-TSF-CRL, DUB-EDI-CRL, and a lot of others.
But Ryanair does not guarantee the connection : if the first flight is late and you miss the connecting flight, you are on your own. Given the ponctuality of Ryanair, it seldom happens. Never happened to me until now ..
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 21:23
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I've done it myself coquelet, TRF-STN-AGP and with about an hour and a half between landing at and departing from STN it's just about doable. When I last did it in January we pushed back 25 mins early at TRF and despite having to be deiced we were still in the air 10 mins before scheduled departure time. No need in the summer as there's a direct TRF-AGP.
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 21:32
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But Ryanair does not guarantee the connection: if the first flight is late and you miss the connecting flight, you are on your own.
And just that is a nightmare for so many pax, they simply fear, most of them hesitate and finally choose something else. Or simply they do not know FR network well enough to start thinking that way.
Besides, the schedules should be constructed in a different way from the very beginning if more than a few noteworthy connections are considered. I think FR should keep that in mind even if officially do not provide any connecting flights, just to satisfy these brave ones (and get some more €€€'s). But no, I've already lost my hope. It's not a real option with Ryanair. Just for hobbyists perhaps.
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 01:28
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Haven't been to Hahn for about a year but remember the Ryanair desks had a fairl prominent notice saying connections were not provided as FR did just point to point. Presumably more than 1 irate passenger has missed an onward flight and been stuck for the night at an airport which is frankly rather grim and a long way from anywhere else by land
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