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Old 10th Jan 2010, 07:20
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Hmm, wouldn't Rotterdam be as convenient?
It would be even better, but not necessarily the economic conditions there (fees etc.)
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Old 10th Jan 2010, 08:35
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Is there a page, where u can find information about, when and where the FR press conferences take place? Thanks
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Old 10th Jan 2010, 10:57
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Hmm, wouldn't Rotterdam be as convenient? I seem to recall that Basiqair couldn't make that one work...
Basiqair became Transavia and they're still at Rotterdam. Yes Rotterdam is convenient for Amsterdam but probably has charges that are multiple times those of this new Lelystad airport...
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Lelystad - Amstedam is 40 minutes by train V 20 minutes from Schipol but service is being upgarded to fast Amsterdam - Gronigen line so that will probably be reduced and reckon with smaller terminal and quick transfer then easily with a year or two it will be 1 hour from landing to centre of Amsterdam which will compare with Schipol.
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Forget Amsterdam/Lelystad for the time being. It's still not sure if the airport will remain at its current location.... And in The Netherlands it can take more than 20 years to have the green light for a runway extension (example: GRQ) which is necessary for Lelystad to be able to accomodate Ryanair and other B737/A320's.

AMS and RTM are too expensive for Ryanair and GRQ is also waiting for a runway extension. So, for the next couple of years Ryanair will only operate to EIN and MST.
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Old 11th Jan 2010, 04:48
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Does anybody know anything about the press conference on wednesday in Berlin?
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 05:53
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This comment was published in The Independent today:
Thanks in no small part to Michael O'Leary's largesse, the prize money for Cheltenham's Ryanair Chase is being boosted from £220,000 to £250,000 this year at a time when it is being cut for most other races. So now you know where all those "puerile" (copyright OFT) extra fees which you have to use a Visa Electron on the third Thursday of a 30-day month to avoid are going.
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 09:39
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Quick question for anyone that knows STN..

So I'm doing something I shouldn't and that FR strongly discourage, but I booked a "connecting" flight through STN to get to GRX visit some friends.

My first flight arrives at STN at 13:05, and the flight to GRX departs at 15:50. Assuming that the first flight lands on time, I guess there will be no problem to get to the second one, but in case it runs late, how late can it be for me to still be able to catch the second flight? Keeping in mind I have to get off the plane, go to departures, security, etc..
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 09:54
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Two problems at Rotterdam
- It is owned by Schiphol Group, so isn't allowed to pursue a strategy that could undermine growth up the road.
- It has very severe limitations on the number of flights. These were lifted by Rotterdam City Council a number of years ago, but the neighbouring municipalities of Schiedam and Berkel en Rodenrijs, which live under the flight path appealed the decision at national level and won. So, growth has to come from larger aircraft rather than extra flights.

Lelystad is also owned by Schiphol Group, so it would be interesting to see how easily an agreement could be made.
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 10:36
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  • AMS is owned by Schiphol group
  • Rotterdam is owned by Schiphol group
  • Lelystad is owned by Schiphol group
Let's live monopoly then...

Not only in the Netherlands by the way.
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 11:33
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Finavia, by the way

Ryanair Tickets from LPP to NRN are selling very well (All 12.99 promo fares for starting April and May are sold out and current price for some days is already 50-60 euros one way). They even desided to start flights one month earlier - from 4th of March.
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 12:32
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LPFR. It shouldn't be a problem. The time taken will depend if you have checked in bags or not. Obviously the best and quickest way is on line check in and hand baggage only. I think you will find that there are many people doing the same thing as yourself, FR don't offer the conections because they don't want to be responsible on the odd ocasion it goes wrong.
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 13:58
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Thank you. Yes, I know they don't offer conections and tell pax not to do them, but it's the only way to get to GRX...Still, any idea, how much time it takes from arriving to go to departures again? I'm giving enough time, but if the flight runs late I think I'll freak out. And yes, only hand-bagagge of course.
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 14:16
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I've done arrival gate out and back into departures lounge in less than 15 mins (you need to factor extra time to gate but I think you avoid the train with Ryanair).

If coming in domestically this is very possible - if coming in International need to factor time for passport control which could be the lottery.
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 14:20
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On the flight into STN, take an aisle seat at the front of the plane. Depending on the arrival gate, it may well be a 10+ min walk just to the immigration hall.
Once you exit arrivals at Stansted, turn right. About midway down the length of the terminal, the entrances to security screening start.

From arrival aircaft steps to departure gate, you're probably looking around 30 mins if you can run a bit and queues aren't too long. Worth looking at the airport map on the STN website in advance - signs are fairly good but helps to know a route in advance
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 15:26
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Will take a look at the map. Thank you all for the info.
Should work out well then, even if there's 1.30h delay or so on the first flight.
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Re Lelystad

From what I see they want this up and running by end 2010, that may be optimistic. It seems to me that this is the start of 'Schiphol 2'. The a/p has needed to expand for some time, a few years ago I read an article about a proposition to create an island in the N Sea connected by a causeway to allow the a/p to gradually move from its present position (they did it with HK) but objections from neighbouring countries & shipping interests scuppered that. This is ideal. Start by moving locos out there so free up slots for big boys. They also have almost unlimited space for expansion.

Dutch thoughts anyone?

Tot ziens.
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Old 13th Jan 2010, 10:27
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Press conference in Berlin:

3.4 million passengers in 6 years. No new routes/base announced.
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Old 13th Jan 2010, 13:11
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Fiasco on the Rygge - Nyköping route.

Ryanair's attempt to fly twice-daily between RYG and NYO has failed. Despite 9 krone (€1) fares the LFs are very poor indeed. From 1st February the frequencies will be reduced to once-daily (no more morning flights).
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I've been being a naughty boy in FR/Stanstead for years, and, so far, never been caught out. Allowing 2hrs+ between connections is about right. One of the things FR is good at is timekeeping, goes with the heavy usage of aircraft, crews, 25min turnarounds, etc. You should be fine, main risk at this time of year is weather....

Bon voyage
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