DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
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jetstar.8 LGS6753 & NorthSouth - well said and the people I have spoken to feel this is the more likely outcome. Of course it's just their opinions but it seems to be the more common opinion.
As it happens, I've been made aware of two interested parties, obviously I'm not able to reveal them on here but sufficient is it to say that if you had to choose the interested parties yourself, these two names would be very high on the list.
Having said that, despite having no doubt the information I've received is genuine, I'll believe it when I see it since I can't imagine Peel being easy to negotiate with.
As it happens, I've been made aware of two interested parties, obviously I'm not able to reveal them on here but sufficient is it to say that if you had to choose the interested parties yourself, these two names would be very high on the list.
Having said that, despite having no doubt the information I've received is genuine, I'll believe it when I see it since I can't imagine Peel being easy to negotiate with.
So if the 'Kemble' solution seems the most viable, presumably that means no scheduled services which isn't going to please the local politicians/industrialists.
On another point, how many of MME's services are now provided centrally by Peel, rather than locally at MME i.e. an additional cost to the present position for any new operator?
On another point, how many of MME's services are now provided centrally by Peel, rather than locally at MME i.e. an additional cost to the present position for any new operator?
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There's branding too, we'll likely get a new logo and website due to commonality with DSA/LPL. Would be the ideal opportunity to revert back to Teesside Airport
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MME for sale
How about a Cobham - Jet2 - Multiflight joint group buying Teesside. Then Jet2 maintenance in the existing hangers, Multiflight training and Cobham with the Leeming Hawks moving in as well. Simples......! 
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The services centrally provided by the group aren't given free, the airport are still charged (no discount). So no extra cost and in some of the cases any new owners will be able to save money on the present set up.
The services centrally provided by the group aren't given free, the airport are still charged (no discount). So no extra cost and in some of the cases any new owners will be able to save money on the present set up.
If you look back at my previous post DTV and Doncaster pay Liverpool something like 80 to 90,000 for the information desk service. You could pay three local people and still save a few quid!
Extra, hand back the 75% but I bet they won't give up the South side.
Extra, hand back the 75% but I bet they won't give up the South side.
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The South side hasn't been part of the airport for months, if not years now, that's owned by Peel Holdings and not Peel Airports who are selling the airport.
This will be a major stumbling block for any potential sale of DTVA, I suspect at least one of the interested parties I mentioned earlier will be put off by this.
This will be a major stumbling block for any potential sale of DTVA, I suspect at least one of the interested parties I mentioned earlier will be put off by this.
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Looks like Jet2 could be taking advantage of the unstable situation at DTVA - they're sending two aircraft to DTVA tomorrow morning to do some training, the aircraft in question are G-CELB and G-CELI.
To put it another way - visible over Darlington/Stockton/Middlesbrough tomorrow morning will be two great big flying advertisements reading "Jet2 Yorkshire" and "Jet2 Manchester".
Despite needing all the business it can get, perhaps DTVA should have thought twice before accepting these flights? Having said that, if it's Peel that decide the flights as opposed to someone at DTVA, they probably don't care anymore.
To put it another way - visible over Darlington/Stockton/Middlesbrough tomorrow morning will be two great big flying advertisements reading "Jet2 Yorkshire" and "Jet2 Manchester".
Despite needing all the business it can get, perhaps DTVA should have thought twice before accepting these flights? Having said that, if it's Peel that decide the flights as opposed to someone at DTVA, they probably don't care anymore.
On the other hand it might make people look up and think, ah we still have an airport look at all those planes, your average public probably won't think it's the same two going round and round.
And of course its making money!
And of course its making money!
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If you look back at my previous post DTV and Doncaster pay Liverpool something like 80 to 90,000 for the information desk service. You could pay three local people and still save a few quid!
Seriously though this appears to be a substantial amount of money for what was in reality “not a lot”.
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Now where was I? Oh yes lots of private emails etc and clandestine meetings ( 5/11/11 )
I didn't know what it was all about but we do now.
Housing on the site? 2 chances fat and no. There would be huge problems getting sewage away from the site which would result in the main sewers being upgraded to an enormous size which would mean Middleton St George being cut off from the world for 6/9 months. The cost implications are also enormous. Factor in the location of the site which is not a commute to anywhere of any great size, the current available housing stock in Teesside and South Duham and the land bank of the major house builder's both still operating and also bankrupt together with the parlous state of the economy and also the fact that the site is a featureless piece of flat land surrounded by more flat land then housing is a non starter for at least the next 15/20yrs.
Light industrial units ? There are enough of these within 30 minutes of the airport to keep that part of the market going for the next 15/20 years again.
Major industrial complex? Not unless Nissan want to relocate.
This leaves you with either an airport or a piece of scrubland.
Jet2 in cooperation with Stobart? It might just work. Jet 2 are based at an inaccessible airport with terrible weather and Stobart cannot get planning permission at Carlisle. Teesport is absolutely booming at the moment and Stobart may see a link into there with perishable goods as he already ships for Tesco and they have a decent import presence there.If Cobham have any spare cash then they might just be tempted to buy in to a joint venture.
Whenever Thomson's have run decent destinations at a decent price they have always reaped the rewards from Teesside.A joint venture may look at this and their own interests and think that it might be the start of something very profitable and stategic for them.
I didn't know what it was all about but we do now.
Housing on the site? 2 chances fat and no. There would be huge problems getting sewage away from the site which would result in the main sewers being upgraded to an enormous size which would mean Middleton St George being cut off from the world for 6/9 months. The cost implications are also enormous. Factor in the location of the site which is not a commute to anywhere of any great size, the current available housing stock in Teesside and South Duham and the land bank of the major house builder's both still operating and also bankrupt together with the parlous state of the economy and also the fact that the site is a featureless piece of flat land surrounded by more flat land then housing is a non starter for at least the next 15/20yrs.
Light industrial units ? There are enough of these within 30 minutes of the airport to keep that part of the market going for the next 15/20 years again.
Major industrial complex? Not unless Nissan want to relocate.
This leaves you with either an airport or a piece of scrubland.
Jet2 in cooperation with Stobart? It might just work. Jet 2 are based at an inaccessible airport with terrible weather and Stobart cannot get planning permission at Carlisle. Teesport is absolutely booming at the moment and Stobart may see a link into there with perishable goods as he already ships for Tesco and they have a decent import presence there.If Cobham have any spare cash then they might just be tempted to buy in to a joint venture.
Whenever Thomson's have run decent destinations at a decent price they have always reaped the rewards from Teesside.A joint venture may look at this and their own interests and think that it might be the start of something very profitable and stategic for them.
The south side
There is only a line of fence over there no roads nothing else new. Plenty of burried rubbish and old asbestos sheds.
I thought the tower was part of the airfield as I presume it is still full of emergency water.
I know the hospital area and hangar 5 are privately owned.
I thought the tower was part of the airfield as I presume it is still full of emergency water.
I know the hospital area and hangar 5 are privately owned.
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I've heard on the grapevine that there's two confirmed interested parties with a few that have merely enquired.
Of the two, one is an existing airport operator (sort of) and the other a maintenance and a/c painting company.
Of the two, one is an existing airport operator (sort of) and the other a maintenance and a/c painting company.
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Is it me or am I seeing a lot of wishful thinking here?
Cant beleive PWC would allow any delicate information to slip out?
Who ever takes over the airfield has two choices.Run it privately or run it as is now.
The first option in my opinion is the most likely-would cost the least and would mean limited ancillary services and opening hours--fully operational airfields costs lots of money to run !
Second option run as now..but who has the financial clout to run a loss making airport (probably for the foreseeable future)and for what/whose benefit ??
Going to be a long and drawn out affair methinks.
Cant beleive PWC would allow any delicate information to slip out?
Who ever takes over the airfield has two choices.Run it privately or run it as is now.
The first option in my opinion is the most likely-would cost the least and would mean limited ancillary services and opening hours--fully operational airfields costs lots of money to run !
Second option run as now..but who has the financial clout to run a loss making airport (probably for the foreseeable future)and for what/whose benefit ??
Going to be a long and drawn out affair methinks.
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JSCL well we will see i suppose ?
Sorry i forgot a third option...close it.
My money on number 1 and probably a conglomerate(is that the word ?) of the councils and Cobhams.
In the real world there is just not the money out there to develop and expand an airport which lets face it apart from a couple of years has been pretty much a white elephant.
Sorry i forgot a third option...close it.
My money on number 1 and probably a conglomerate(is that the word ?) of the councils and Cobhams.
In the real world there is just not the money out there to develop and expand an airport which lets face it apart from a couple of years has been pretty much a white elephant.
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JSCL, of the two interested parties you mentioned, I believe the first one is one of the two I've been informed of, the second one however is new to me.
Doubt Cobham are buying the airfield as all the Falcons moved out to Bournemouth over the last couple of days, might be a temporary xmas thing but they've never done it before - worrying?!
Doubt Cobham are buying the airfield as all the Falcons moved out to Bournemouth over the last couple of days, might be a temporary xmas thing but they've never done it before - worrying?!