DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
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Does size really matter?
No one is saying that Teesside will ever overtake NCL in total passenger throughput. It would be unrealistic to say that. What we are saying is that Teesside can have a place in aviation albeit a fairly modest one. It will survive and passenger numbers will recover and probably overtake previous numbers in years to come. There is no other use for this piece of land and if there had been I doubt that Peel would have sold what appears to be a controlling interest to VAS.
VAS are already making plans and I would suggest that an announcement will be made in the near future. What those plans are I have no idea but I do hope that they speak to local people rather than just special interest groups and local politicians.
P.S Depending on what you mean by the anniversary it was bought by local councils in 1963. Passenger flights did not start until sometime later so 3 years at least before 50yrs and 28 before NCL's 75yrs so we have time yet. Who knows they may find old mine workings under NCL and have to close it.
VAS are already making plans and I would suggest that an announcement will be made in the near future. What those plans are I have no idea but I do hope that they speak to local people rather than just special interest groups and local politicians.
P.S Depending on what you mean by the anniversary it was bought by local councils in 1963. Passenger flights did not start until sometime later so 3 years at least before 50yrs and 28 before NCL's 75yrs so we have time yet. Who knows they may find old mine workings under NCL and have to close it.
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What also does not help MME is the vastly improved links to other airports. Direct trains from Middlesborough and Darlington to MAN, direct to London from Hartlepool and Eaglescliffe via Yarm and Northallerton. NCL is less than an hour away and a shared taxi can be had for little more than a tenner a head. Peoples personal mobility has improved to such an extent that they are prepared to travel further and for longer to get the flight they want. The traditional markets for MME are drying up as people demand other destinations rather than the Spanish Costas and similar mainstays of MME traffic.
It makes depressing reading because I like MME as an airport and have flown from there many times, mostly the old BD Viscounts and later DC9s to LHR.
It makes depressing reading because I like MME as an airport and have flown from there many times, mostly the old BD Viscounts and later DC9s to LHR.
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Yet again I agree with Paarmo. MME could have really jumped on the idea of the Tall Ships, as Grand Central are putting on extra services to Darlington direct from Hartlepool, and these could quite easily of stopped at MME. Albeit they may be late trains, but even so - every little helps. There has been a certain lack of advertising, and that is really what we need. We also need some kind of transport interchange there - metro or not. Bus, train? Anything!
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Winter 2010/11
Even though the loss of DUb after such a short space of time is a huge blow given it seemed to fit what MME offered perfectly, the new TOM winter programme will easily cover for this.
According to May passenger figures, EI carried 1171 pax MME-DUB but (even with an average 150 pax per flight) the combined weekly flights to Alicante, Sharm and Tenerife will easily dwarf this.
We are still in a much better position than HUY who can only offer AMS and ABZ during winter.
Any news as to if EI/RE are planning on a return for Summer 2011?
According to May passenger figures, EI carried 1171 pax MME-DUB but (even with an average 150 pax per flight) the combined weekly flights to Alicante, Sharm and Tenerife will easily dwarf this.
We are still in a much better position than HUY who can only offer AMS and ABZ during winter.
Any news as to if EI/RE are planning on a return for Summer 2011?
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regaring the Dublin flights, Ryanair have been offering 'no tax' flights from NCL to DUB meaning £10 single fares. If anyone does their homework and checks both Ryanair and Aer Lingus websites for prices they will see a huge difference and I suspect choose the Ryanair flights. This Friday you can get flights with Ryanair for £65 from NCL and it is £105 from Durham with Aer Lingus.
I see though that the Ryanair flights to Alicante have a LF of about 86% for June. That is with an awful time of a 6.30am departure from Alicante which must put people off flying with Ryanair from Durham. I hope the airport are pointing this out to Ryanair and saying think what LF we could have if aircraft are based at Durham- i. e with better flight times. (I know the usual comments about yield apply, but if you are not making money on flights 86% full then surely there is something wrong?)
I see though that the Ryanair flights to Alicante have a LF of about 86% for June. That is with an awful time of a 6.30am departure from Alicante which must put people off flying with Ryanair from Durham. I hope the airport are pointing this out to Ryanair and saying think what LF we could have if aircraft are based at Durham- i. e with better flight times. (I know the usual comments about yield apply, but if you are not making money on flights 86% full then surely there is something wrong?)
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I'll be staying at one of the airport hotels on 7th August prior to doing the Darlo 10K the day after, not going to have any noisy aircraft waking me up, early, late or at all am I?
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As someone who's been targetted with corporate sponsorship during the tall ship's I have to say the organisers have over priced it beyond belief and their marketing is poor at best to the business world. If MME was pinning it's hopes on the ships helping traffic they haven't much hope.
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You misunderstand. Corporate Sponsorship is grossly overpriced and without that they struggle to pay for the media/PR/advertising etc which draws the punters.
The prices quoted to me for various packages are seriously ludicrous and they are struggling for takers.
The prices quoted to me for various packages are seriously ludicrous and they are struggling for takers.
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I see Victor's in the news again. Seems like he won't be doing any international flying in the next few months. Keeps the airport in the news though
Failed airline boss denies allegations (From The Northern Echo)
Failed airline boss denies allegations (From The Northern Echo)
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I cant see it really. If EZY can not make NCL viable then shifting operations 40 miles down the road will not make a lot of difference. It would be the same catchment area but with less access. EZY could maybe make MME pay by using aircraft based in Europe for a few select destinations but probably not of a frequency that would interest them.
Doncaster is falling due to it being too near and too well connected to other airports. Direct trains to the escalators at MAN hourly. Leeds just up the road, BHX a couple of hours by direct train.
Doncaster is falling due to it being too near and too well connected to other airports. Direct trains to the escalators at MAN hourly. Leeds just up the road, BHX a couple of hours by direct train.
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I think Newcastle is also losing out to Edinburgh these days. When Edinburgh was more limited to a few charter flights many travelled to Glasgow, but also Newcastle. But now that Edinburgh has a much better choice of both charter and lo. co. flights to an ever increasing number of destinations, travelling to Newcastle is generally not on. As for using MME which did happen from the east of Scotland years ago that is now a waste of time, and in fact if being willing to travel that far continuing on to LBA for a better choice of flights is a better option.
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Watch my lips ( figuratively speaking of course)
Easyjet have a tried and trusted model. They are not Ryanair. Easy fly from somewhere TO somewhere. NCL and LBA are somewhere whilst Doncaster and Teesside are just near somewhere. I cannot understand why they took on Doncaster anyway. Perhaps it was something to do with Peel Now they are winding down perhaps it is something to do with the new owners.
Forget locos at Teesside they are here today gone tomorrow flibberty gibbets. Look at Thomson. They were here 30yrs ago and are still here and expanding over the winter. Now that is the sort of customer you want. If the new owners could tempt Thomas Cook Group back then that would be a coup.
Forget locos at Teesside they are here today gone tomorrow flibberty gibbets. Look at Thomson. They were here 30yrs ago and are still here and expanding over the winter. Now that is the sort of customer you want. If the new owners could tempt Thomas Cook Group back then that would be a coup.
I must point out that DSA is not a base as such, there are no crew stationed there. It is also not known what plans they have for DSA just yet, it is rumoured that they may have a few months break and return in March or April with perhaps more routes. So there is no formal knowledge about them 'pulling out' as some are suggesting.
If they do leave NCL then i dont see why they couldnt try something similar to DSA at MME. MME has HOTAC facilities onsite like DSA does. But then again who knows if they are even planning to pull out of NCL anyway? Someone posted on another thread that EZY may be bringing in an A320 to NCL next summer to operate some longer routes.
If they do leave NCL then i dont see why they couldnt try something similar to DSA at MME. MME has HOTAC facilities onsite like DSA does. But then again who knows if they are even planning to pull out of NCL anyway? Someone posted on another thread that EZY may be bringing in an A320 to NCL next summer to operate some longer routes.
