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Old 10th Jun 2010, 16:43
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Re/ei Mme-dub

It's reported elsewhere tha the DUB service will stop altogether come the winter, as it will from DSA. Was this always planned to be a summer service or are low passenger numbers to blame?

It must be a kick in the teeth for DTV not to hold on to it after such a short time. Think the average pax did not look great but surely better to give it time and where will RE/EI Regional re use the aircraft? Surely MME/DSA fit into their model perfectly unless they will take over BHX and MAN etc during the winter?
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Old 11th Jun 2010, 08:54
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Marketing for the route seems to have all but stopped. Has anyone seen any advertising for it since it started?

Despite Ryanair's flaws, at least everyone knew they flew to Dublin from Teesside. I wouldn't say the same for RE/EI

What's gonna happen to the specially painted ATRs over the winter if they're not flying these routes?
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Old 11th Jun 2010, 15:01
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Aer Arann are adding one aircraft at Shannon under the EI deal this winter, and there is speculation they will take on ORK-MAN/BHX from EI
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Old 16th Jun 2010, 20:22
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There might be some sort of press release this week business related. Watch this space.
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 00:22
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Yes - I've been anticipating this announcement for some time if it's what I think it is, and if it is what I think it is, it's VERY good news.
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 13:08
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Any hints?

New airline, new routes, new owners?
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 17:22
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DTV Good News at last

Yep .. its creeped out...the Condom machine in the gents toilet has been doubled in size(width and length) ....get real guys nothing ever happens at DTV surely you know this by now??
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 18:17
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It'll be the Vancouver Airports company announcing they are taking a majority share in the company, as read on another forum...

I wonder what they will do, if anything, to turn the finances round?
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 18:17
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Could be the news that Kerry's left and that CWL are now in real trouble! May figures for us are down 19% yr/yr - an omen?
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 19:04
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Good news if it is the new owner's announcement! Hopefully we will finally get to see some airport developments.
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 20:09
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Good news week ??

or maybe the pay out to Kerry has been kept below 5 figures??

development?? why and for what reason-nothing happens and when it does it doesnt last?

passenger figures continue to decline and with the new government even the FR conract could be in doubt..why expand and who do we aim for???
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 22:40
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Not the announcement planned but the SAS charters are back for the Scandinavian school children and their orchestra's (I believe thats what they bring!), first one tomorrow night from Oslo.
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Old 18th Jun 2010, 12:39
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I wonder what they will do, if anything, to turn the finances round?
Well Pug it probably goes something like this :-
They buy a job lot of airports from Peel, they appraise each on it's own merits, a full blown financial job, if indeed their due diligence work prior to acquisition hasn't already flagged up the issues.
Then they seek to develop those airports that are profitable as per their business plans which encompass various levels of investment.
Then having identified the level of investment necessary to support their plans they look as to how best to fund. As likely as not then the first port of call is to identify as to what can be realised by disposal of those non profitable elements acquired in the deal.
The caveat for DTV is likely to be that the sale agreement contains restrictive covenants that protect DTV from such fate for a set period. The problem though is that there is unlikely to be any such clause compelling the new owners to invest in DTV, however it may be that they have contacts and marketing that they feel worth directing towards DTV on basis that things can only get better and they feel that they may be able to turn things around..........
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 11:12
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Confirmation of VAS agreement

Vancouver Airport Services buys majority stake in Peel Airports - Crain's Manchester Business
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 11:41
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Went to a presentation by DTVA this morning at Middlesbrough Foorball Club, aimed at business travellers. Reasonable turnout. They are setting up a Business Travel Pledge, whereby if business pledge to travel with them, the will pledge to provide flights and put company logo on the DTVA website. There is also an online questionairre as to where people want to fly to, so at least they are doing something.

Kerry got praised for what she and her team had achieved...

People from KLM, Eastern and Air Lingus all presented their committment to DTVA. Air Lingus was designed primarily as a leisure route, not a business route. KLM wouldn't commit to a fourth flight a day as that would make the route unprofitable.

The marketing campaign is called Fly Local and I hope it works for them. It was all very positive.
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 15:06
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This was the announcement I mentioned I was hoping for a couple of posts ago, and it's excellent news!!

Let's hope they can turn things around!
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 15:45
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Read the press release, and a complicated deal it would appear to be & to be honest at this time I just don't get it ! A basic observation is that VAS only own 65% ! i.e they do not have complete control for which one requires 70%. In my experience such a factor would have a major impact on the purchase price, which interestingly is not disclosed.
There is then the fundamental question as to what their valuation was based upon clearly with losses all over the group, then goodwill is low, so the price agreed would be on an asset valuation basis.
VAS must see significant growth oportunities somewhere within group to have attracted and excited them in the first place & my guess is at LPL in looking to obtain a better return on that capital that the Peel has invested at this airport, followed presumably by DCS again where considerable expenditure on the development of facilities has not yielded forecast returns.
Two things in this deal would worry me, a) That Peel only own 75% of DTV in the first instance as opposed to 100% of the other two airports and b) That Peel & indeed everyone connected with DTV is putting about what a great job KQ did, then their perception could well be that there is little else that can be done as it's decline is clearly (in their eyes!) not down to management failings.
I wouldn't get the party hats out just yet !
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 17:15
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A basic observation is that VAS only own 65% ! i.e they do not have complete control for which one requires 70%
I know for plc's 70% (or is it 75%?) means the majority shareholder can do certain things like delist from the stock exchange but do those rules apply to a private company such as Peel?

Surely it will depend on what Peel and VAS have agreed in the articles of association with regards to distribution of voting rights?
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 19:20
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Great post as always Skyman...lets get this into perspective...better people? than VAS have been trying to develop our beloved airport for 40 years.

It wont happen..I'm sorry it never happened in the past for the airport and wont in the future..VAS must have money to burn!!

apathy,financial climate,lack of awareness and general poor catchment area will always keep the airport in the lower tier of hubs.They missed the low cost boom and that in itself could have had its hey day.
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 21:12
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A basic observation is that VAS only own 65% ! i.e they do not have complete control for which one requires 70%
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I know for plc's 70% (or is it 75%?)
Yes indeed you are correct it's 75% for the Special resolution. I'll put this down to a bad day at the office! Articles won't have any relevance in this case as only dictate what a copany is allowed to do & these are drafted very wide. Voting rights are attached to the shares in issue & as such VAS will only control 65% which is on a simple majority i.e. >50% is enough to run company on a day to day basis only.
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