DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
I know the money for the cleaner role is pretty rubbish, but there's a school of thought which says that if you are unemployed, it's better to do something with your time (even if you are earning the same as dole money), just so that you keep yourself busy. When applying for a half decent job, better that one's CV shows you have spent a couple of months being a dogsbody than doing nothing at all...
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Earn the same as dole and put Peel on your CV
That could have been Maggie Thatcher saying that Davyjohnson, it was a flash back to the iron ladies speaches during the miners strike. 
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I've heard two things recently, one is that the TNT contract has just been renewed for another five years and the airport asked if TNT would be willing to vacate the hangar (with the intention of giving it to Sycamore) if they provided a suitable alternative facility elsewhere on site, but TNT refused as they want the option to be able to bring their aircraft back should they ever wish to.
But I also heard the contract is coming up for renewal and whether it gets renewed or not I don't know but it was made to sound like Sycamore will have the hangar before too much longer.
I would love to see TNT move into Hangar 4 (their fuel bowsers are there anyway so it would be more convenient in that sense, plus you could have trucks go in one side and out the other which would be much more efficient for them) and they'd still be able to bring an aircraft back one day if they wanted too, albeit without the maintenance side of things (Sycamore could even do that for them). But Sycamore need and desperately want hangar 2 because it has a set of mini-doors above the main doors that would allow them to take aircraft straight in without having to remove the tail section first like they're having to now (due to the design of hangar 1, mini-doors can't be retrofitted).
But I also heard the contract is coming up for renewal and whether it gets renewed or not I don't know but it was made to sound like Sycamore will have the hangar before too much longer.
I would love to see TNT move into Hangar 4 (their fuel bowsers are there anyway so it would be more convenient in that sense, plus you could have trucks go in one side and out the other which would be much more efficient for them) and they'd still be able to bring an aircraft back one day if they wanted too, albeit without the maintenance side of things (Sycamore could even do that for them). But Sycamore need and desperately want hangar 2 because it has a set of mini-doors above the main doors that would allow them to take aircraft straight in without having to remove the tail section first like they're having to now (due to the design of hangar 1, mini-doors can't be retrofitted).
Green shoots!!!
Would concur with Jamesair.
Aberdeen - Newcastle is growing much faster than DTV and catching up quickly
Amsterdam - as with last month, even after allowing for Easyjet, KLM are seeing strong growth at Newcastle against modest decline at DTV
Palma - up 25% but only because there were 4 flights in July 2012 and 5 in 2013. Encouragi.g that change from Saturday to Tuesday had no effect
Jersey - data not available yet
Will do a full analysis maybe next week
Aberdeen - Newcastle is growing much faster than DTV and catching up quickly
Amsterdam - as with last month, even after allowing for Easyjet, KLM are seeing strong growth at Newcastle against modest decline at DTV
Palma - up 25% but only because there were 4 flights in July 2012 and 5 in 2013. Encouragi.g that change from Saturday to Tuesday had no effect
Jersey - data not available yet
Will do a full analysis maybe next week
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Flight to portugal - family of 4 prices
Re TNT, the EU have blocked UPS's take over for the moment. Ups are appealing the decision according to the industry.
Wonder how much it costs to lease a hangar? Have Peel put the prices up since taking over.
On a route note, a friend has just flown to Portugal with her family.
She asked for quotes at the travel agents and I was surprised to hear that both NCL and LBA were £1000 more expensive than Edingburgh Airport for the 4 of them.
So Edingburgh got the deal. 2.5 hour drive up the road but they are a grand better off. Cheap parking too.
DTV didnt get a look in at the travel agents she said.
Wonder how much it costs to lease a hangar? Have Peel put the prices up since taking over.
On a route note, a friend has just flown to Portugal with her family.
She asked for quotes at the travel agents and I was surprised to hear that both NCL and LBA were £1000 more expensive than Edingburgh Airport for the 4 of them.
So Edingburgh got the deal. 2.5 hour drive up the road but they are a grand better off. Cheap parking too.
DTV didnt get a look in at the travel agents she said.
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Jersey passenger Figures
Jersey passenger figures are available on CAA website for Durham Tees - up 8% to 430.
Quite a good month really compared to some other months, although still disappointing that Amsterdam is slightly down - a loss of 310 passengers - 10passengers a day. If I have worked it out correctly 48 passengers per flight - 60% load factor?
Quite a good month really compared to some other months, although still disappointing that Amsterdam is slightly down - a loss of 310 passengers - 10passengers a day. If I have worked it out correctly 48 passengers per flight - 60% load factor?
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Northbound, why would you be surprised that flying from Edinburgh is cheaper than northern England in August? Summer school holidays are a lot earlier in Scotland and the children are now back at school. Things work the other way as well and a lot of Scots fly from Newcastle or Manchester in early July to get a better price.
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As the summer is drawing to a close and the airport usually shuts at 10pm how many aircraft use DTV each day in the winter months?
Someone asked me in the pub but I didnt know, but even now its very quiet next door.
Did Peter Foster receive the written replies which he asked for when the Peel boss left the room at the last community meeting?
I havent seen him to ask.
Someone asked me in the pub but I didnt know, but even now its very quiet next door.
Did Peter Foster receive the written replies which he asked for when the Peel boss left the room at the last community meeting?
I havent seen him to ask.
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Peel answers anyone?
Robert, I recalled the meeting and a mention about written questions in the northern echo. Never heard what Peel's repy was?
Questions asked of Durham Tees Valley airport executives (From The Northern Echo)
By Alexa Copeland, Reporter (Darlington)
"BOSSES at Durham Tees Valley Airport (DTV) are being asked what has been done over the last 12-months to secure its future.
At a meeting of the Durham Tees Valley Airport Consultative Committee today (Wednesday, June 26), Andy Foulds, commercial director at Peel Airports, revealed that DTV planned to trial flights to Bulgaria for one month in August 2014.
He added that there would also be a summer programme of flights to Ibiza next year.
But Peter Foster, a representative for the Durham Association of Local Councils, said he was disappointed at an apparent lack of aviation activity over the last year.
He intended to put his concerns to Mr Foulds and ask what developments had been made, but the director had to leave partway through the meeting so
the committee agreed to put the question in writing to Peel.
Mr Foster said: “In the last 12-months I reckon there has not been a lot of movement at this airport.
“What makes up an airport is all sorts of aviation activity to bring money into the airport.
“The only movement there has been is the number of caravans we have now got parked here.
“There is more advertising about those caravans all around Darlington and Durham, saying ‘come and park your caravan at the airport’ than there is about flights.”
Passenger numbers at DTV hit their peak in 2006 when almost one million passengers used the airport, but by last year that figure had dropped to less than 200,000."
End quote by Echo.
Questions asked of Durham Tees Valley airport executives (From The Northern Echo)
By Alexa Copeland, Reporter (Darlington)
"BOSSES at Durham Tees Valley Airport (DTV) are being asked what has been done over the last 12-months to secure its future.
At a meeting of the Durham Tees Valley Airport Consultative Committee today (Wednesday, June 26), Andy Foulds, commercial director at Peel Airports, revealed that DTV planned to trial flights to Bulgaria for one month in August 2014.
He added that there would also be a summer programme of flights to Ibiza next year.
But Peter Foster, a representative for the Durham Association of Local Councils, said he was disappointed at an apparent lack of aviation activity over the last year.
He intended to put his concerns to Mr Foulds and ask what developments had been made, but the director had to leave partway through the meeting so
the committee agreed to put the question in writing to Peel.
Mr Foster said: “In the last 12-months I reckon there has not been a lot of movement at this airport.
“What makes up an airport is all sorts of aviation activity to bring money into the airport.
“The only movement there has been is the number of caravans we have now got parked here.
“There is more advertising about those caravans all around Darlington and Durham, saying ‘come and park your caravan at the airport’ than there is about flights.”
Passenger numbers at DTV hit their peak in 2006 when almost one million passengers used the airport, but by last year that figure had dropped to less than 200,000."
End quote by Echo.
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Which? Airport survey news
Do "Which" know something which they aren't telling us?
Their latest survey into airports in the UK.
The Journal newspaper covers the story about Newcastle coming top but they didnt even include DTV for some reason???
Newcastle Airport rated best large airport in the country - Journal Live
Durham Tees Valley Airport was not included in the survey.
Which? executive director Richard Lloyd said:
“Our research shows a jumbo jet-sized gap in the performance of UK airports with smaller terminals generally performing better.
“It is clear some of our major airports have some work to do if they are to keep more of their passengers satisfied.”
Their latest survey into airports in the UK.
The Journal newspaper covers the story about Newcastle coming top but they didnt even include DTV for some reason???
Newcastle Airport rated best large airport in the country - Journal Live
Durham Tees Valley Airport was not included in the survey.
Which? executive director Richard Lloyd said:
“Our research shows a jumbo jet-sized gap in the performance of UK airports with smaller terminals generally performing better.
“It is clear some of our major airports have some work to do if they are to keep more of their passengers satisfied.”
Durham Tees Valley Airport was not included in the survey
While Which? has a desire to be objective, they also need to make editorial judgments as to relevance - no point waffling on about a product that very few of its readers will even consider purchasing or using. Should Which have included Dundee and Gloucestershire airports as well ? What about all the airports on the Scottish islands ? You have to draw the line somewhere...
Furthermore, when carrying out a consumer survey, there is also the need to ensure that the data is statistically reliable - i.e. you have enough responses about an airport to ensure your summary data is not unduly swayed by the opinion of 1 single person. If DTV accounted for 0.075% of the 11,500 replies Which? received, then about 9 of those responses would be about DTV - generally within statistics you want to see at least 25 responses before you can draw any meaningful and reliable conclusions. It is likely that Which? decided not to include DTV as to do so would have meant publishing unreliable and biased opinions.
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Anyone know why there has been a Binair Metro from Brno for the last 5 working days in a row? I'm guessing its something to do with parts for a factory (Nifco?)
Mauled Maule
Anyone know the true story about the Maule on stand 9. On close inspection it looks bad both wings holed and port tailplain fabric holed. Comments so far is that it flew through a tree or trees!
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