DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
Which brings us back to today and Arif’s story about what future plans the Atlantic Gateway has for the region and how part of his report mentioned increasing the the size and facilities at Barton Aerodrome (who’s name incidentally is Manchester City Airport… but nobody seems to know this).
City Airport and Heliport
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Crowle United Kingdom
Age: 50
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
Let's keep the bigoted phrases out of this shall we . Some of us find that kind of stuff offensive !!! . This is supposed to be a polite forum .
And back to topic it does seem unlikely this story could happen as correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that a little grass airfield ? . Not to mention the issue of air traffic conflicts etc etc . A strange story non the less , But not deserving of faintly veiled anti Scottish rants !
And back to topic it does seem unlikely this story could happen as correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that a little grass airfield ? . Not to mention the issue of air traffic conflicts etc etc . A strange story non the less , But not deserving of faintly veiled anti Scottish rants !
DTV Good News
At last something positive..its on the web site that they have 2 vacancies in Air Traffic..is this the first sign of expansion promised by Peel? Coming closely after the increase in Firemen looks like they are planning for something big? lets hope so..
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hello Papa Oscar, I'm the author of the Blog post. And no, I don't take drugs :-)
I absolutely agree with you remarks on Barton Aerodromes current size. I live just a few miles away from it. However, the point you've missed is that in the post I mention the BBC report that talks about how Peel would make significant changes to the size and facilities at Barton.
Getting planning permission to build a new airport in the UK is pretty much impossible. But extending an existing one into land you've already purchased, where the surroundings are designated industrial, that's something very different.
My point is mute though, as again I say in the article, it looks like they are more likely to employ goods on the high speed rail network from Manchester / Liverpool / Salford docks. Which is why Peel say it's "vital" to the future of the area.
UPDATE: Here's Peel's first draft of what they plan to do. So... how many business jets do you think are going to land on grass? I mean, you're the experts.
10 months after this document was produced, Peel then increased Barton's role as part of the Atlantic Gateway project. But AGAIN, I suspect this is to push the town planners to let them get access to the High Speed rail network. Which is why they are so keen on HS2. Which is what I said in the original post. Or you could just watch the North West news TONIGHT.
Or just on Barton Moss... which they own (or details here).
They do intend to build on the area, because the Environment Agency attempted to stop them, got sued and Peel's moving ahead.
I absolutely agree with you remarks on Barton Aerodromes current size. I live just a few miles away from it. However, the point you've missed is that in the post I mention the BBC report that talks about how Peel would make significant changes to the size and facilities at Barton.
Getting planning permission to build a new airport in the UK is pretty much impossible. But extending an existing one into land you've already purchased, where the surroundings are designated industrial, that's something very different.
My point is mute though, as again I say in the article, it looks like they are more likely to employ goods on the high speed rail network from Manchester / Liverpool / Salford docks. Which is why Peel say it's "vital" to the future of the area.
UPDATE: Here's Peel's first draft of what they plan to do. So... how many business jets do you think are going to land on grass? I mean, you're the experts.
10 months after this document was produced, Peel then increased Barton's role as part of the Atlantic Gateway project. But AGAIN, I suspect this is to push the town planners to let them get access to the High Speed rail network. Which is why they are so keen on HS2. Which is what I said in the original post. Or you could just watch the North West news TONIGHT.
Interesting. So would that be:
(a) tearing up a cemetery, the Peel Green housing and school to the north east, and moving the M60, or
(b) demolishing half the housing in Irlam, or moving the M62, or
(c) a bit of both
(a) tearing up a cemetery, the Peel Green housing and school to the north east, and moving the M60, or
(b) demolishing half the housing in Irlam, or moving the M62, or
(c) a bit of both
They do intend to build on the area, because the Environment Agency attempted to stop them, got sued and Peel's moving ahead.
Last edited by RobLeather; 16th Jul 2012 at 17:57.
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Sometimes north, sometimes south
Posts: 1,809
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
1 Post
Peel would make significant changes to the size and facilities at Barton
(a) tearing up a cemetery, the Peel Green housing and school to the north east, and moving the M60, or
(b) demolishing half the housing in Irlam, or moving the M62, or
(c) a bit of both
Because a half-viable commercial air transport runway at Barton can't be done without that.
NS
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Around
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
But... but, don't you understand? He did thirty minutes of research. That's right. A full half hour. Your so-called facts mean little in comparison.
Also, someone should edit the Wikipedia entries on London City and Sheffield airports since their construction was:
Also, someone should edit the Wikipedia entries on London City and Sheffield airports since their construction was:
pretty much impossible
Last edited by rodan; 12th Jul 2012 at 21:00.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Teesside
Posts: 636
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Come on....
Forgive my interference, but I'm getting bored now and on the verge of switching off.
I understand the emotion, but any chance we could keep this thread talking about the airlines and routes rumours/facts for DTV. We've descended into discussion about other airfields, continuously repeated posts about Peel and grants (which has a place but is getting tiresome now) and we're now turning on each other.
I know there isn't much else to do in a DTV thread as there aren't many routes/airlines to discuss but surely we can improve on the recent debate...
No offence intended....
I understand the emotion, but any chance we could keep this thread talking about the airlines and routes rumours/facts for DTV. We've descended into discussion about other airfields, continuously repeated posts about Peel and grants (which has a place but is getting tiresome now) and we're now turning on each other.
I know there isn't much else to do in a DTV thread as there aren't many routes/airlines to discuss but surely we can improve on the recent debate...
No offence intended....
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 1/2 a mile to the right of 14 top end of Yeadon
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I know there isn't much else to do in a DTV thread as there aren't many routes/airlines to discuss
This thread used to be one of the first that I viewed after reading about my own local airport Leeds/Bradford.This thread is now degenerating into a anti Peel thread and worse.The content relating to DTV used to be interesting and enjoyable to read,but not anymore it's just becoming rather boring. I hope the contributors take note.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Here
Posts: 710
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Forgive my interference, but I'm getting bored now and on the verge of switching off.
Sunderland Air Show Traffic at DTV
Signs are good this year? Saw a Spitfire here yesterday-hopefully familiarise for next week? Anyone know what we can expect this year? At least something to watch at DTV!!
No other news at moment..
No other news at moment..
According to the BBMF display schedule, Spitfire went to Otterburn. Same source shows their using Newcastle for the Sunderland show (download the full schedule spreadsheet).
RAF BBMF - BBMF Display 2012
RAF BBMF - BBMF Display 2012
Provisional CAA stats
June 2012 - 14,855 pax down 25.3% on June 2011
Rolling 12 months - 170,016, down 24.9% on previous 12 month period
Amsterdam route had 8,819 passengers, down 0.3% compared to June 2011
Amsterdam route accounts for 59.3% of all passengers
Rolling 12 months - 170,016, down 24.9% on previous 12 month period
Amsterdam route had 8,819 passengers, down 0.3% compared to June 2011
Amsterdam route accounts for 59.3% of all passengers
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The 30 minutes comment was to show how easy it was. Well done.
What I do think funny is that I'M not saying Peel are going to extend Barton for freight.... THEY ARE!
_I_ think they are going to send goods via rail freight, which is why they are so keen on the High Speed 2 expansion.
What I do think funny is that I'M not saying Peel are going to extend Barton for freight.... THEY ARE!
_I_ think they are going to send goods via rail freight, which is why they are so keen on the High Speed 2 expansion.
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Here are Peel's early plans for Barton. They've now increased their interest in "business" transport for the Atlantic Gateway project over "recreational" use.
So... do you think you'll be landing many business jets on grass?
So... do you think you'll be landing many business jets on grass?
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Darlington
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Passenger Figures
Hopefully some encouraging signs in the figures for June. Amsterdam very very slightly down, but with 2 bank holidays in June where there would have been less business travel- I would think this accounts for Aberdeen figures being down. (However Aberdeen figures for the previous month were very high)
Jersey had a 52% increase in passengers and averaging 60 pax a flight rather than 49 for the previous year.
And Palma I reckon had an average of 185 passengers on 189 seat aircraft - pretty good!
I also see that Newcastle had strong figures for some of the traditional Spanish destinations - maybe an upturn in the wider north east economy?
To begin with, I think that is all we want here some flights to the most popular destinations - Ibiza, Alicante, Turkey etc!
Jersey had a 52% increase in passengers and averaging 60 pax a flight rather than 49 for the previous year.
And Palma I reckon had an average of 185 passengers on 189 seat aircraft - pretty good!
I also see that Newcastle had strong figures for some of the traditional Spanish destinations - maybe an upturn in the wider north east economy?
To begin with, I think that is all we want here some flights to the most popular destinations - Ibiza, Alicante, Turkey etc!