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For non-football fans:
His customary goal celebration was to jump upon the fence at the Holgate End at Boro's old ground, Ayresome Park.
However, from the same Wikipedia source:
he was weak in the air
Not the best role-model for MME
His customary goal celebration was to jump upon the fence at the Holgate End at Boro's old ground, Ayresome Park.
However, from the same Wikipedia source:
he was weak in the air
Not the best role-model for MME
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I wouldnt mind the name transfer back to Teesside if it will get us more routes. Glad to see Thomson are happy with the route sucess. Would be better for them to have done a few summer flights. An Asian route at DTVA would that work. It could be in direct comp to Emirates from Newcastle. I dont think they would put a Asian route from Liverpool as you only have to travel to Manchester and Emirates have the A380. We will see.
Also routes for London, No heathrow or Gatwick, where would it be City, luton or Stansted. For me Luton would be the best. But thats me as im so near to Luton.
Also routes for London, No heathrow or Gatwick, where would it be City, luton or Stansted. For me Luton would be the best. But thats me as im so near to Luton.
How about a route to Southend? What do we think of that would it work?
Asian route would something like the Air Blue A320/1 operation at Manchester work, is 23/05 long enough for such a flight?
And finally if the station was moved from its current position to somewhere near the Oak pub it might be more useable. The service bus passes along this road and could easily pick pax up and drop them at the terminal door. With the current station removed the bottom end could be opened up for aviation.
Asian route would something like the Air Blue A320/1 operation at Manchester work, is 23/05 long enough for such a flight?
And finally if the station was moved from its current position to somewhere near the Oak pub it might be more useable. The service bus passes along this road and could easily pick pax up and drop them at the terminal door. With the current station removed the bottom end could be opened up for aviation.
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I think the Asian route was more along the lines of India or Pakistan, rather than the Gulf States. Something like Leeds Bradford has with PIA and Air Blue to Manchester as already mentioned.
- Had discussions with a Middle Eastern carrier to start Asian route from one of the Peel airports - it could be here.
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Amsterdam
The amsterdam figures suggest impressive load factor. 8228 passengers, 3 flights per day, 28 days in the month, average of 98 pax per flight! That looks pretty good to me, and if those figures are corrrect, I would think KLM would be more than happy with those figures.
However, the aircraft is often a Fokker 70, so I do not think the above figures add up, or, where there some charters to Amsterdam etc?
However, the aircraft is often a Fokker 70, so I do not think the above figures add up, or, where there some charters to Amsterdam etc?
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Divide by 2
Eurochallenger, you have forgotten the need to divide by 2 as you need to count the flights out and in - by my reckoning that's an average of forty-nine per flight or 61% seat factor. As an old teacher of mine would have said, "Could do much better!" I doubt that this puts MME at the top of KLM's class.
I have been told the Saturday afternoon flight doesn't do very well thus affecting the whole months figures.
SWBKCB There's plenty of Asian's around the Teesside catchment area.
SWBKCB There's plenty of Asian's around the Teesside catchment area.
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I wouldnt mind the name transfer back to Teesside if it will get us more routes.
Presumably those posting on this thread that have convinced themselves that the DTV catchment area would be sufficient to support a service to India / Pakistan have attended the Michael O'leary geography course!
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Presumably those posting on this thread that have convinced themselves that the DTV catchment area would be sufficient to support a service to India / Pakistan have attended the Michael O'leary geography course!
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The approach radar function for Doncaster is already done from Liverpool and a huge amount of technical and management effort was invested in achieving that. It's therefore sensible to place DTVA on the same footing. Anything that saves costs at DTVA may help to keep the airport open so it seems to me it's something to be supported. They've already doubled-up a lot of the ATC jobs between DSA and DTVA. If the radar controller jobs all went to Liverpool you'd still have tower controllers at DTVA. You surely have to accept that, with the tiny number of IFR movements at DTVA, you can't expect the owners to keep paying ATCOs to sit doing nothing for much of the day.
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ATCOs at MME dont sit around doing nothing! Have you ever been there? Just because there are few schedule movements doesn't mean it isn't a busy unit! There are many different problems that controllers at MME deal with on a daily basis! These include the large amount of military movements through the Vale of York (less recently but still busy), the large amount of GA traffic in the area as well as dealing with traffic entering and leaving air ways.
I do believe that it is an advantage to have controllers in the local area, I know its not essential!
On top of this the cost of employing controllers at LPL is alot more expensive than at MME!
I do believe that it is an advantage to have controllers in the local area, I know its not essential!
On top of this the cost of employing controllers at LPL is alot more expensive than at MME!
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It's not just about controller numbers though, is it? Although you can do three radar positions from one ops room with a lower ATCO salary cost than would be required by doing the same tasks from three ops rooms, it's also about requiring fewer Tels engineers, assistants and other ancilliary functions, and less infrastructure. If you're going to fight this, (and you should imho), then don't try to argue that the suits have got their sums wrong. Instead, make the case for your local knowledge and expertise that will be lost, and explain why that should valuable to them.
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onion: Agreed, the LARS task is a significant part of the DTVA ATC effort. But "busy" is always a relative term and I would be surprised if traffic levels around DTVA anything like matched those seen in the SE. Additionally, DTVA's LARS coverage is almost completely overlapped by Leeming and Newcastle so while it might be valid to argue for local knowledge etc etc, the accountants may well see a strong case for ditching LARS.
In any case I'm not convinced by the "local knowledge" argument. Take RAF controllers. They get posted every couple of years and I can't recall anyone ever suggesting that they provide a defective service because they haven't lived there long enough.
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In any case I'm not convinced by the "local knowledge" argument. Take RAF controllers. They get posted every couple of years and I can't recall anyone ever suggesting that they provide a defective service because they haven't lived there long enough.
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