DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
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Of course a Heathrow link is important and possibly vital for MME.
Can't see BA doing it as they are at NCL, but who knows.
As ever it all revolves around the issue of LHR expansion, that's the political reality.
Can't see BA doing it as they are at NCL, but who knows.
As ever it all revolves around the issue of LHR expansion, that's the political reality.
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I read today in a B A statement that they will launch 3 new domestic routes from LHR this coming winter. One is already announced to LBA. Could Teeside be in with a chance??
There is a link to the statement on the BMI thread.
There is a link to the statement on the BMI thread.
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I know our name change was a contribution to the decline of our LHR route, but bmi ran it into the ground themselves - dropping their business class product and constant fiddling with timings are just two of the reasons I can remember (there were more).
Add to that the confusion of bmibaby pulling out (people thought bmi and bmibaby were one and the same so when baby went it was assumed the Heathrow flight had been pulled too).
To get to the point, BA just need to scratch the surface to see that it wasn't that long ago that bmi were effortlessly filling four A320 rotations each and every day, even turning away passengers who just turned up on the day hoping a seat was available!
Despite this, my gut feeling is we won't be one of the remaining two domestic routes. One will probably be Belfast which they're inheriting off bmi.
Add to that the confusion of bmibaby pulling out (people thought bmi and bmibaby were one and the same so when baby went it was assumed the Heathrow flight had been pulled too).
To get to the point, BA just need to scratch the surface to see that it wasn't that long ago that bmi were effortlessly filling four A320 rotations each and every day, even turning away passengers who just turned up on the day hoping a seat was available!
Despite this, my gut feeling is we won't be one of the remaining two domestic routes. One will probably be Belfast which they're inheriting off bmi.
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globetrotter79 is probably right, but failing this, us, Inverness and Doncaster/Sheffield are the only other possibles. I'd say Inverness is more likely to get it than we are but I'd put us ahead of DSA.
I'm gonna shut up now because it would be easy to get carried away with this when truthfully I think we all know it's not going to happen.
I'm gonna shut up now because it would be easy to get carried away with this when truthfully I think we all know it's not going to happen.
globetrotter79 is probably right, but failing this, us, Inverness and Doncaster/Sheffield are the only other possibles. I'd say Inverness is more likely to get it than we are but I'd put us ahead of DSA.
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DTV Heathrow
unlikely..much more revenue from direct south america and far east routes. Heathrow already way behind FRA and CDG for these routes ?
And really is the demand still there with trains taking 2.30 hours ish ?
see no figures released from dtv for april..wonder what they will tell us?
Paarmo you mentioned news on charters...well?? and also anyone got any news on a)the tenerife extra flight and B) news for 2013 in general..most brochures out now?
And really is the demand still there with trains taking 2.30 hours ish ?
see no figures released from dtv for april..wonder what they will tell us?
Paarmo you mentioned news on charters...well?? and also anyone got any news on a)the tenerife extra flight and B) news for 2013 in general..most brochures out now?
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Second time lucky?!
Europort Express - connecting you to Europort
New Dutch start-up listing us as one of their initial destinations.
New Dutch start-up listing us as one of their initial destinations.
DTV Figures-Stop me if you've heard this before !
April finally released.
total 13354 -16.6 % down
Rolling year 177748 -25.1% !!
AMS -4%
Oh well heres to ..
"thingy express!!"
total 13354 -16.6 % down
Rolling year 177748 -25.1% !!
AMS -4%
Oh well heres to ..
"thingy express!!"
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KLM have said that they are committed to continuing their services from the airport.The latest passenger figures for Amsterdam have dropped again.If this trend cannot be broken then how long can KLM continue.Even the most die hard supporters of the airport must realise if growth cannot be achieved and sustained then the future of DTV is not looking good.I wouldn't put to much hope in Europort Express to halt the decline even if it does become reality.
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Europort thingy website
Shame they cant spell Teesside right on the europo_t website 
Europort Express - connecting you to Europort
Is that nigerian fella still behind bars? It sounds a bit like his DTV ex airline promises?
As for KLM, aren't they getting 5p off per litre to keep them at DTV
Europort Express - connecting you to Europort
Is that nigerian fella still behind bars? It sounds a bit like his DTV ex airline promises?
As for KLM, aren't they getting 5p off per litre to keep them at DTV
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highwide - am wondering whether the royal wedding inspired bank holiday at the end of April 2011 might have anything to do with pax numbers on the Amsterdam route.
Admittedly, if the NCL-AMS route is up 8% in April 2012, while MME-AMS is down 4% this is a bad sign, but I'm guessing that there's more leisure money floating around in Newcastle than Teesside and thus leisure flights will boost pax number more around national holidays. Furthermore, Easter 2011 was April 8th (i.e. early and colder) while Easter 2012 was April 24th (i.e. late and warmer) - meaning people were more likely to use it to go away.
Clutching at straws I know, but this is the most positive spin I can put on this.
Admittedly, if the NCL-AMS route is up 8% in April 2012, while MME-AMS is down 4% this is a bad sign, but I'm guessing that there's more leisure money floating around in Newcastle than Teesside and thus leisure flights will boost pax number more around national holidays. Furthermore, Easter 2011 was April 8th (i.e. early and colder) while Easter 2012 was April 24th (i.e. late and warmer) - meaning people were more likely to use it to go away.
Clutching at straws I know, but this is the most positive spin I can put on this.
KLM figures
David..fair points.However the trend(even with 5p off a litre)is still downward.I know its early days for the new "regime" but they must be concerned. Dont forget KLM have also dropped the night stopper on Saturdays so those figures are likely to be repeated next month? although I suppose there will be a little more leisure traffic.
Has anyone found any news for 2013 yet? and what happened to that extra Tenerife-any details yet?
Has anyone found any news for 2013 yet? and what happened to that extra Tenerife-any details yet?
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Routes have to pay for themselves. So what on earth would persuade anybody other than BA to go to LHR? BA don't operate the service because other services pay more. And don't forget, we are talking about transfer passengers and not point-to-point (Darlington/Middlesborough to London) travellers, as these are probably better served by road/rail transport. There's probably a greater likelihood of Emirates arriving with an A330 than BA in an A319.
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David you appear to be attempting to undermine your own observation
I am not aware that there is an improving micro ecconomy "up the road". The reason seems pretty obvious to me,... pax migration!..... It is even worse however when KL review what is actually happening as to growth on the route for the whole region as 8% of a lot is far greater than 4% of a few
David you appear to be attempting to undermine your own observation
... if the NCL-AMS route is up 8% in April 2012, while MME-AMS is down 4%...
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errrrm, except if those people live in Tees-side? I know you Tees-siders have a bit of a thing about Geordies being different but this is surely just desperation in trying to find excuses for the sad reality that the Tees-side economy is f**ked, people have no money, there's huge unemployment, and no-one from outside the region could have the remotest reason for going there other than the few business travellers with facilities already there. It's a microcosm of the UK as a whole - we're in the doldrums till the government abandons its Thatcherite slash-and-burn obsession.
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Furthermore, Easter 2011 was April 8th (i.e. early and colder) while Easter 2012 was April 24th (i.e. late and warmer) - meaning people were more likely to use it to go away
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Scrapping the £6 tax
Peel wont do that...they want to shut the place. If you dont believe me, have a look back at their press releases...DTV didnt fit in with their master plan I think their quote was.
Cutting the £6 tax might show they are trying to keep it open at least
Cutting the £6 tax might show they are trying to keep it open at least
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They've made the effort to go to Routes:
Durham Tees Valley Airport visiting Routes Europe 2012 - Business News - News - nebusiness.co.uk
Durham Tees Valley Airport visiting Routes Europe 2012 - Business News - News - nebusiness.co.uk