EasyJet - 4

[flyzen]

Amman

Jordan signed an "open Sky" agrement with UE, certainly the reason of EZY plan to AMM

[EKCH2730]

Easyjet will fly from early december BSL/Dresden 3days a week (booking available next week)
Other routes planned from BSL (most of them starting early dec) CPH-VCE-EDI-LPA

Will CPH also be available for booking next week? BSL-CPH is unserved at the moment (after Cimber pulled out) so it will be natural for EZY to go in on that route.

[Aeronave]

Dresden

What great news! And whats about DRS-ORY? (and other routes).

Are there any news?

[flyzen]

EZS press conference due today for official announcement of these new BSL base flights

For a EZY or EZS Paris / DRS route ... no new, as already posted

[Mr A Tis]

Late flight cancellation

I don't know when the French started their industrial action today (24th) but Ryanair cancelled their flights to France all day & provided information about the disruption on their website.
EZY on the other hand only cancelled their LPL-BDO flight 20 minutes before STD, with no information about the disruption on the web-site.
Even the rebook link on the web site doesnt work after 4 hours , as the system hasn't been updated about the cancellation.
Pretty sure more than 20 minutes notice could have been achieved for this disruption, thus saving a wasted 100 mile round trip journey, car parking & lounge fees.
Sh*t happens, but I def think they could do better than this.

[MancRy]

Without wanting to go into too much detail, the new MAN routes so far are apparently

- Another Scandanavian route
- Another German route
- A fairly distant Eastern Med City (not TLV)
- AMS that we all know about

Had heard rumours that one of the new routes would be "a shock".

[MUFC_fan]

- Another Scandanavian route
- Another German route
- A fairly distant Eastern Med City (not TLV)
- AMS that we all know about

Had heard rumours that one of the new routes would be "a shock".

-Stockholm?
-Hamburg?
-Amman?

Could the shock be the latter?

[wanna_be_there]

Amman is to be served 2 weekly from MAN and 3 weekly from LGW, so yes, quite a shocker!

EZY will also look to add TLV as LS are reaping the rewards at the moment, but its going to be summer '11 we see that one added

[MUFC_fan]

Amman is to be served 2 weekly from MAN and 3 weekly from LGW, so yes, quite a shocker!

I'm quite good at this!

I would assume Stockholm is also a cert. unless it is Tallinn!

Will be a great addition and I'm pretty sure it will not remain at twice weekly if U2 get more aircraft into MAN. Will be a lucrative route for the airline that's for sure!

EZY will also look to add TLV as LS are reaping the rewards at the moment, but its going to be summer '11 we see that one added

Why El Al don't even send a 737 to MAN is beyond me! Anywhere north of Luton have to connect at LHR, LTN, FRA, AMS, CDG, MUC etc. unless they take LS which are charging what full service airlines are charging for return TATL flights and still filling them up! It's not like you can connect with EY, QR or EK is it!

U2 could turn MAN into a major base along with LTN, LGW, MXP etc. if they really pushed it - there are so many potential non-stop flights within Europe and Middle East that they could take advantage of!

[wanna_be_there]

I personally think Easy could have the following scenario going on:

Amman - 4 weekly A320

Damascus - 2 weekly A320 (Syrianair did well ex MAN, just poor punctuality and management)

Istanbul - daily A320 (turkey doing well and TK monopolising this route)

Tel Aviv- daily A320 (Give LS a run for their money, also giving people a choice of all 7 days to travel, not just Tue and Thu)

Also, in Europe, MAD, VIE, VNO, FCO, MXP and BBF could easily work ex MAN, just need them to be added

[MUFC_fan]

Amman - 4 weekly A320

Damascus - 2 weekly A320 (Syrianair did well ex MAN, just poor punctuality and management)

Istanbul - daily A320 (turkey doing well and TK monopolising this route)

Tel Aviv- daily A320 (Give LS a run for their money, also giving people a choice of all 7 days to travel, not just Tue and Thu)

Also, in Europe, MAD, VIE, VNO, FCO, MXP and BBF could easily work ex MAN, just need them to be added

I agree. Maybe 4x weekly on AMM is a bit too excessive yet I would expect it to certainly increase over time from 2x weekly.

Damascus is another that, with a well known and reliable airline offering reasonable fares (which U2 is probably best at!) would work.

IST is a TK route and I would guess will remain a TK route for the foreseeable future. I would make a prediction that many, if not the majority of TK passengers ex. MAN will connect in IST as they often offer the best fares going east.

I have to say, with TLV, a much larger schedule is definitely what is required. Daily, or at least 5x weekly would be much better for MAN and the airline on the route because as you say, there is more flexibility for passengers and for a route where there is demand I would like to think this would increase the success of the route.

The other destinations you have mentioned are again, very valid, however, it needs to be taken into account what happens down the road at LPL with both U2 and FR.

I still believe that the only two airlines that can make MAN-MAD work are U2 and IB/BA, the latter offering twice daily for connecting passengers would be their best option. U2 are U2 so where they fly, passengers come.

MAN offers some of the most lucrative routes on U2's network and for them to continue to make a success of MAN they do need to look at this longer distant routes such as AMM and TLV which clearly are working for the carrier!

Interesting times for U2 and MAN...Is three (U2/MAN/LPL) becoming a crowd?

[wanna_be_there]

Well, with LPL being sold to Vancouver airports, I wonder if the deal EZY originally signed is now valid. They made the deal with Peel, not Vancouver.

Im not saying that U2 will pull out of LPL, not by a long shot, but, I think the contract at LPL has prevented the likes of some routes not being allowed to op ex MAN, and also for every MAN route announced, a LPL route must follow.

Maybe MAN will be growing very fast now. After all, they get the same sort of pax profile as LGW, and U2 at LGW is doing very well.

[MancRy]

Ok well I know we were supposedly looking at AMM but I expected that to be an LGW route to start of with. Does anyone know anything definite regarding MAN-AMM? The "shocker" that i expected was BJL.

The routes I have heard (from a reliable source) didn't include any shocker. The routes being GOT, HAM, SAW aswell as the AMS.

[toledoashley]

I would guess that London would have a higher rotation to Amman than Manchester. Most of the near middle east routes would work as the LTN - TLV route has proved.

Just something of a flyer, but LTN has a 3x rotation on a 320 available from the dropped PFO. I think its Wednesday/Friday/Sunday.

Scandinavia, not sure about Stockholm - seems like an add choice, new German city - could it be the long - awaited Berlin?

I as above was expecting something like Banjul or Tunis soon.

[wanna_be_there]

No, the route is AMM, Im sure it briefly appeared in the GDS systems before dissapering again.

BJL is Banjul no? That would be on the west coast of Africa not a med city.

[EI-BUD]

Had heard rumours that one of the new routes would be "a shock".

Well Q is if, I mean if Easyjet did Manchester Shannon daily would Ryanair be tempted back onto the route?? Given at both ends of the route the dispute that exists over fees? Would the temptation for FR be too great?

I would like to see Easyjet doing a daily Manchester City of Derry route. We will have to wait and see.

EI-BUD

[MancRy]

Wanna be there..... I know BJL is West Africa. I only said Eastern Med as I initially didn't want to say the actual routes as they haven't been publicly confirmed yet. The Eastern Med city I was referring to is actually SAW.

Is AMM a definite then or is the GDS entry all that supports the rumour?

[ryansf]

Does anyone know why the DSA routes can't be booked past 31st December? Will they release the new year schedules when they announce these MAN routes?

[MancRy]

Rumour has it that the DSA aircraft will be heading across the pennines to MAN in January. A rumour only though.
Ryansf, are you on TSY forum?

[Jamie2k9]

Well Q is if, I mean if Easyjet did Manchester Shannon daily would Ryanair be tempted back onto the route?? Given at both ends of the route the dispute that exists over fees? Would the temptation for FR be too great?

I would like to see Easyjet doing a daily Manchester City of Derry route. We will have to wait and see.

Aer Arran had planned to launch daily flights from City of Derry to Manchester on March 1 2010 and the service was suspended before the start day in May as the bookings were very poor on the route.

Aer Lingus Regional operated by Aer Arran are starting SNN-MAN on July 1. It will be a daily service.