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Old 11th Sep 2013, 08:23
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Ramper1, how do you know that the HAM flights will be operated as a w pattern? None of the existing routes will work with a w and there are currently not enough flights ex HAM to support a base either, so further routes are due to be announced some time in the autumn, I reckon. I am, however, curious to know if you are just guessing or if you have some knowledge from our commercial department that the rest of us do not?

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Old 11th Sep 2013, 08:40
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Share price

Apparently, the reason for the large increase in share price was a $6 drop in the oil price, in the hope of no action over Syria. IAG shares increased too.
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Old 11th Sep 2013, 08:53
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EZY is to axe a number of routes from Lisbon, over the next few months. These are Venice, Rome, Asturias and Valencia.

A couple of other Italian routes seem also to cease at the end of this summer timetable, including: Verona-Paris Cdg and Rome Fco-Venice.
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Old 12th Sep 2013, 17:02
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Hamburg is more likely to be a nightstop by other bases, rather than a new base.
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Old 12th Sep 2013, 18:35
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EasyJet & Luton

I'm interested to know people's thoughts on where they see EasyJet's relationship with Luton in the coming years?

Obviously the base is very well established over many years and the airline has strong links with the town in other ways too.

On the flying front, I know a new route to Venice is planned whilst the Istanbul route will cease. Is there likely to be any significant growth at Luton in the coming years, particularly as the economy improves? If so, where could work in terms of new routes or increased frequencies from Luton?
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Old 12th Sep 2013, 20:33
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EasyJet & Luton

My pennies thought if it is worth anything, is that future growth will come to Luton, but more in the longer term and is going to be at a far slow level that we have seen in previous year...

Going by all the growth that is taking place at Gatwick and that the airline has all the FlyBE slots it recently purchased to fill, this is probably going to hinder growth from the other London airports for the next year or so, as new aircraft delivered will be required to fill these.

A lot of the recent growth from Gatwick has been on business routes, and we have not seen this at Luton. So Im getting the impression that easyJet, might be taking Luton back to its grass routes and focus the base on primarily holiday/city break destinations. With a sprinkling of traditional routes that are used by both tourist and business travellers like Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin, Zurich and Milan.

While also offering the niche routes like Tel Aviv, which is specifically flown from Luton to capture the huge Jewish market of North London.

There was concern when easyJet announced they will grow Stansted this might come at Luton's expense... But so far the Summer 2014 schedule that has been released, has alleviated these concerns and is pretty much the same schedule as present. The main changes were, the loss of Istanbul, the new Venice route, Reykjavik increasing to six times weekly, Minorca being reduced to once weekly and Budapest going to four times weekly. There maybe room for a twice weekly route to be announced to summer sun destination.

I don't think too much needs to read into the loss of Istanbul, this route is also being dropped from Basel, which was the only other base they flew to Istanbul from. It is probably a case the likes of Turkish Airlines and Pegasus have squeezed the airline out of the market, as they have grown.

The airline is supportive of expansion for Luton, but has been vocal and made it clear ground transportation and general infrastructure within the airport terminal needs to be improved.

When the announcement of Luton being sold to AENA last month, the airline gave quite a muted response:
ďAs London Luton Airport's largest airline, easyJet bases a fleet of 15 aircraft on site serving 38 destinations across Europe, Northern Africa the Middle East and Iceland carrying almost 5m passengers each year on our easy and affordable flights.
"We look forward to working with AENA and AXA to deliver enhancements to London Luton Airport which will result in sustainable growth, long term development and an improved customer experience which will help the airport to reach its full potential."
There is definately some hopes in there for possible future growth!

There is lot of talk that Luton is currently full and no room on the apron to base further aircraft, but there is atleast a couple of spare stands if easyJet did want to grow immediately, also if the airline wanted to, they could operate flights into the airport from other bases. Outside of the morning rush, there is plenty of room for growth.

While Luton is classified as a London airport, it also serves a huge area outside of London, with it being the nearest/local airport for people as far away as Northamptonshire and the southern section of M1 corridor. Also for easyJet, once you go passed Luton on the M1 heading north, they don't have another base until you hit Manchester/Liverpool. So I'd imagine you also attract some traffic from the Midlands area too.
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 07:22
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I work in the commercial department, so I am in the know. Just because you don't know everything doesn't mean that it's not happening. The schedules are not finished yet, so nothing is firm enough to announce it public ally to all staff. Just wait and see
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 07:30
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They spell it EasyJet due to branding issues with the easy name. Every news article uses this to avoid being sued over ' bad mouthing ' a name or mis use of the word. It's a legal thing
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 09:15
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Thanks for that, Ramper1, wasn't aware of it, and it seems pretty pointless, but then legal things often are hard for mortals to comprehend.
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 09:26
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Ramper1, which is why I asked. I am fully aware that we operational personnel get told nothing until it is announced publically. As I have already mentioned in the previous post, none of the existing routes on sale work for either W or a base (not enough flights), which is why more routes are very likely to be announced in the autumn.

By the way, your attitude sucks.
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 09:31
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Thumbs down

Ramper1 - working in the commercial department and discussing route info on a message board should be gross misconduct. Attitude is
Nice to have in your ivory tower
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 12:23
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Going back to the thread about the future relationship between Easy and Luton, does anyone think that the continued poor customer satisfaction levels [recent 'Which' survey, 'airlinequality' website] for the airport, may have a bearing on Easy strategy ?
The decision to develop future routes from an airport that has a bad reputation for customer care may not be the best way to build traffic numbers on new routes.
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 15:09
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EasyJet & Luton

There must surely be a knock on effect for the airlines using Luton if the airport is subject to poor customer satisfaction levels?

Whilst the service at the airport is distinguishable from the service delivered by the airlines, one does affect the other so I'd be amazed if the airlines at Luton aren't encouraging the airport to resolve the customer satisfaction issues it appears to have & quickly.

As a consumer, I'd choose another airport over Luton if my perception is that the overall level of service will be better elsewhere
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 15:48
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Luton has a number of issues - a terminal busting at the seams in the early morning in a long strung-out shape which can be found at the end of a cul-de-sac road with a train station a mile away and lack of overnight ramp space are but some of them. You can pay the security screening staff to smile a bit more, but that's not going to solve Luton's problems - the only thing that really will help is a lot of money being spent on building work.

Right now, Heathrow is full, Gatwick is close to full, City cannot take an A319 / B737, so the only credible options for additional flights are really Luton or Stansted.
An airport like Shoreham gives a fantastic customer experience, but with a tiny terminal and runway far too short for a 150-seat aircraft, Luton are unlikely to be too worried.

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Old 13th Sep 2013, 16:33
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Well Southend will soon have more room with its expanded terminal and additional ramps. And it did top the Which? passenger satisfaction survey, of course.......

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Old 13th Sep 2013, 16:39
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Easyjet will be working with the new owners of LTN to improve the airport and there operations. EZY know full well the problems at LTN and want to improve passenger experience.

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Old 13th Sep 2013, 16:52
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LGW-NQY

Daily LGW-NQY flights will start from end March

BBC News - Easyjet 'to keep Newquay-Gatwick flights'
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 17:14
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I've never had a problem at LTN; certainly no worse than any other airport both here and abroad. One of the worst recent experiences has been trying to get through LGW North arrivals at 1am on a Friday morning! And even then the customer service wasnt terrible.

Busy airport = constraints = unhappy pax. Its reality Im afraid.
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 18:09
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Well Southend will soon have more room with its expanded terminal and additional ramps. And it did top the Which? passenger satisfaction survey, of course.......
All very true but easyjet can only use Southend for 18 hours a day and there are no transport links to and from London for easyjet's early and late services.
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 18:14
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All very true but easyjet can only use Southend for 18 hours a day
More than others use Heathrow you mean? Good point!
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Not quite, they're consdering it, I suspect angling for some form of taxpayer subsidy dressed up as a start up discount.
the only thing that really will help is a lot of money being spent on building work.
It's the old gag about how do you get somewhere, well I wouldn't start from here if I were you! LTN is now what LHR did ages ago, sticking on adhoc bits willy nilly to an old terminal as far as budget will allow. Like EDI and a few others, the end result over decades is a nightmare that really needs a small fortune spent to sort it out. My definition of a good arrival experience is cold water in the bathrooms on a hot day to splash on your face and refresh, something 20th century primitve airports used to have yet we seem to have forgotten.

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