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whilst the licenced lengths are now longer at 1592m on RWY 01 and 1558 on RWY 19
An apron with Business jets still makes it a GA airfield but that is just fine as the airfield has a touch or quality about it. I can't really see it becoming anything else in the short to midterm but why would it want to be?
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With all due respect OXF ATC ...
Why choose to make comparisons between Kidlington vs Biggin and/or Farnborough ... Because it suits you to do so per chance?
Biggin Hill has a court injunction in place preventing it from accepting commercial airline (fare paying passenger) movements, were such a court injunction not in place then, without a shadow of a doubt, Biggin would have improved upon it's opening hours, it's RFF category, it's public transport links, indeed just about everything, long before now.
Likewise Farnborough has similar restrictions on the type of movements it can accept!
Northolt also has restrictions but you opted not to compare that to Kidlington ... I wonder why ... One is ideally placed on the A40 and on the fringes of London whilst the other is placed way off the M40 and out the back of beyond someplace!
And why state that Kidlington's runway is strong enough to accept BBJ's & A319's ... Remind us again of the length of Kidlington's runway if you so please?
Why choose to make comparisons between Kidlington vs Biggin and/or Farnborough ... Because it suits you to do so per chance?
Biggin Hill has a court injunction in place preventing it from accepting commercial airline (fare paying passenger) movements, were such a court injunction not in place then, without a shadow of a doubt, Biggin would have improved upon it's opening hours, it's RFF category, it's public transport links, indeed just about everything, long before now.
Likewise Farnborough has similar restrictions on the type of movements it can accept!
Northolt also has restrictions but you opted not to compare that to Kidlington ... I wonder why ... One is ideally placed on the A40 and on the fringes of London whilst the other is placed way off the M40 and out the back of beyond someplace!
And why state that Kidlington's runway is strong enough to accept BBJ's & A319's ... Remind us again of the length of Kidlington's runway if you so please?
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Weren't Minoan Air supposed to put these new Oxford routes on sale from the 8th? Still nothing from the airport either. I'm putting my money on this never happening...
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I certainly think Oxford has the ability to support a limited range of destinations, I just don't think Minoan is the company to do it. I would have thought EDI with Loganair/Flybe would be a much better option. Maybe DUB with Aer Arann/Aer Lingus Regional. But AMS, CPH, and MUC all seem far too adventurous for OXF.
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Minoan Air
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WE ARE REALLY EXCITED BY THE RECENT NEWS THAT MINOAN AIR WILL BE STARTING SERVICES TO A RANGE OF EXCITING NEW DESTINATIONS, INCLUDING DUBLIN, EDINBURGH, AMSTERDAM, PARIS AND COPENHAGEN FROM EARLY IN FEBRUARY 2013 USING THEIR NEW FLEET OF FOKKER 50-SEATER TURBOPROP AIRCRAFT. WE WILL BE STARTING ONLINE BOOKING OF THESE FLIGHTS & CITYBREAK PACKAGES SHORTLY, BUT IN THE INTERIM, YOU CAN REGISTER YOUR INTEREST FOR THESE NEW FLIGHT ROUTES BY CALLING US ON THE OFFICE NUMBER BELOW, OR USING THE CONTACT US FACILITY ON THIS SITE.[endbold]
Below is info from the above web site for info........
WE ARE REALLY EXCITED BY THE RECENT NEWS THAT MINOAN AIR WILL BE STARTING SERVICES TO A RANGE OF EXCITING NEW DESTINATIONS, INCLUDING DUBLIN, EDINBURGH, AMSTERDAM, PARIS AND COPENHAGEN FROM EARLY IN FEBRUARY 2013 USING THEIR NEW FLEET OF FOKKER 50-SEATER TURBOPROP AIRCRAFT. WE WILL BE STARTING ONLINE BOOKING OF THESE FLIGHTS & CITYBREAK PACKAGES SHORTLY, BUT IN THE INTERIM, YOU CAN REGISTER YOUR INTEREST FOR THESE NEW FLIGHT ROUTES BY CALLING US ON THE OFFICE NUMBER BELOW, OR USING THE CONTACT US FACILITY ON THIS SITE.[endbold]
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What CAT is the ILS at Oxford? Surely some fog or ice and they will be diverting as Oxford will be out of limits. I give them till June and then bye bye Minoan.
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It's now the 19th of December. Either Minoan put Oxford flights on sale today (Wednesday), or they temporarily lose the chance for publicity in the press having any useful effect as the party season moves into top gear, the great Xmas exodus starts in earnest and Minoan have to delay their launch to January 2013 or later
Now the 22nd and still niente - what's going on I wonder?
OXF ATC - Do you still have to pass that security gate to get to the passenger terminal? It doesn't really feel like a proper airport yet.
OXF ATC - Do you still have to pass that security gate to get to the passenger terminal? It doesn't really feel like a proper airport yet.
At least they've been sensible enough to wait a while before having adventures in Copenhagen and Munich as well. With such a long down-time in the middle of the day as well as all day Saturday and most of Sunday, I guess that their 22+ years old airframes with very low leasing costs are being used - an average of 4h42 for daily block time doesn't indicate a particularly heavy usage. I wonder if seats going on sale on 23 January for a first flight on 06 March is giving them enough time...
Had hoped to be able to use one of these flights out of Oxford for leisure as well, but given the timings, it seems that's not gonna happen....
Had hoped to be able to use one of these flights out of Oxford for leisure as well, but given the timings, it seems that's not gonna happen....
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It appears from the schedule that they will have a single aircraft until May and a second one thereafter.
It would seem logical to me in the circumstances to launch one destination with a reasonable schedule, and then the second destination when the second aircraft arrives, but they have chosen to launch both from the start with a very attenuated schedule. Thus for example if I want to make a day trip from Dublin to Oxford for a meeting, I have to ensure my meeting is on a Wednesday or a Friday. If I want to go from Oxford to Edinburgh for a weekend, ... well, I can't really.
I know this will all be resolved from May onwards, but I am a little puzzled at the thought process which concluded that a launch schedule which serves two routes badly is better than one which serves one route well. I wonder whether perhaps a condition of the airport's financial support was the launch of at least two destinations from the start, and I hope this will not come back to bite them.
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It would seem logical to me in the circumstances to launch one destination with a reasonable schedule, and then the second destination when the second aircraft arrives, but they have chosen to launch both from the start with a very attenuated schedule. Thus for example if I want to make a day trip from Dublin to Oxford for a meeting, I have to ensure my meeting is on a Wednesday or a Friday. If I want to go from Oxford to Edinburgh for a weekend, ... well, I can't really.
I know this will all be resolved from May onwards, but I am a little puzzled at the thought process which concluded that a launch schedule which serves two routes badly is better than one which serves one route well. I wonder whether perhaps a condition of the airport's financial support was the launch of at least two destinations from the start, and I hope this will not come back to bite them.
C.
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