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Old 30th Jul 2017, 11:54
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just plain old snobbery or an implication of lower standards?
Perhaps lower costs.
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Old 30th Jul 2017, 12:16
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Yes TOM and TCX operate older models but not into NCL

BHX - Can often be found with at least 2 older TCX 321s & TOM 757s whereas all the based Jet2
aircraft are brand new.

It was never a dig at Jet2 as a company but into NCL they are the oldest by some distance and if you took a side by side comparison of 2 airlines from Newcastle to say PMI and told the customers the age of their Jet2 plane how many of them would get back off ? More than half I would say because the paying folk don't care about its gleaming 30 year old past its still very old for 2017. Now if you told the ones who would get off that their price was now half of what those paid flying that new TCX A321 how many of them would then reboard the 733? You see where I'm going with this the price charged vs equipment used.

Anyway this is all just point of views and opinions but let's keep it related to NCL
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Old 30th Jul 2017, 14:53
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The B733 look very smart inside and are well maintained.
They may well be kept at NCL because the loads are not as high as at
some bases.
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Old 30th Jul 2017, 19:58
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Gor blimey guvs give it all a rest.....this all reads as very very insular & particularly tedious...
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Old 30th Jul 2017, 20:48
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Dublin up another 30% in June
Dusseldorf up + 26%....hopefully this route might get double daily hopefully sooner rather than later.

Good to see Brussels +28% Paris + 6% and Stavanger + 69% rising again.
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Old 30th Jul 2017, 20:54
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DUS

Remember that the A319 vs CRJ900 is about a 40% increase in capacity so load factors have gone backwards. Don't expect a frequency increase any time soon. 13k on Bristol with the current schedule is IMHO excellent.
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Old 31st Jul 2017, 08:02
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Point taken. I just feel that making a business day trip possible would give a further boost to traffic.

I hope they consider introducing Munich which is fast becoming a major hub with Lufthansa.
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Old 31st Jul 2017, 21:19
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SWBKCB, I was simply trying to come to Jet2's defence, all airlines do have to meet required standards

I haven't got a problem either, and as I said, I'd rather be on the older aircraft, so it makes no odds to me at all
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Old 1st Aug 2017, 10:01
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EASTERN

Sept and October will see Cardiff and 2 x Aberdeen services operated by a Backbone Aviation CRJ 200 operations revert to J41 equipment for the Winter.
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Old 1st Aug 2017, 20:20
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Originally Posted by EK77WNCL
SWBKCB, I was simply trying to come to Jet2's defence, all airlines do have to meet required standards

I haven't got a problem either, and as I said, I'd rather be on the older aircraft, so it makes no odds to me at all
For as much as those 'in the know' may question an aircraft's age/potential air worthiness the majority of the paying public imo don't care as long as its on time and clean!
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Old 1st Aug 2017, 20:25
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At long last...some quality reporting

Are older planes less reliable ? and which airline has the most elderly fleet?

Shame on you....the BBC!! Don't expect the BBC to correct their wrong doing!
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Old 2nd Aug 2017, 12:09
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Originally Posted by ncl2011
For as much as those 'in the know' may question an aircraft's age/potential air worthiness the majority of the paying public imo don't care as long as its on time and clean!
You're absolutely right, though back in the day, when you booked a package holiday even with the majors you often had no idea with whom you would fly. The small print in the back of the brochure often offered a long list of possible carriers, and in some cases the carriers didn't even exist - gone bust or whatever!

As far as "how old is my aircraft" is concerned, I expect a few more keyboard warriors will be googling the age of their particular chariot whist sitting in the gate lounge, and if it turns out to be elderly, tweeting furiously about any delays they believe they have sustained as a consequence. The Mail and others will then pick up on these tweets and make up stories that fit their narrative. That could make life uncomfortable for the likes of Jet2 - and indeed BA.
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Old 2nd Aug 2017, 12:47
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Perhaps all you guys exchanging about aircraft age here would like to organize a specific thread.....it has no more to do with NCL than any other airport frankly & yawnnnnnnn then I & perhaps others could avoid the rabbit......
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Old 8th Aug 2017, 06:33
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Why did you edit your previous post about it being a decompression LiamNCL?
You could have made an excellent reporter at the trashy tabloids with scurrilous assumptions like that.
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Originally Posted by Stick Flying
Why did you edit your previous post about it being a decompression LiamNCL?
You could have made an excellent reporter at the trashy tabloids with scurrilous assumptions like that.
I said "looks like" "some sort".I'm happy to accept I shouldn't of jumped the gun so deleted it my mistake it was weather related at FNC.

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Old 8th Aug 2017, 06:50
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Trouble is it doessnt have the hallmark of a decompression at all. I'd suggest you be very careful making gross assumptions. Unfortunately being a keyboard aviator won't offer you protection from possible libel. Get facts before fiction.
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Old 8th Aug 2017, 07:06
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL
Jet2 G-JZHE NCL-FNC Descended to FL150 north of Portugal and carried on all the way to Faro earlier where its still on the ground.
Funchal weather looks to be the issue. There is a BA flight which left Gatwick on Sunday and which then returned to Gatwick due weather. It has still to depart from Gatwick and currently has, even now, no confirmed time of departure.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 01:24
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This is supposed to be the last summer of operation for the Jet 2 733s out of NCL or so I've heard, whether or not that is the case is another story. Arguing over whether it's too old is absolutely ludicrous, and while I've seen the tech logs for some of the older based jet 2 A/C they might be quite full but what else would you expect for a 30 year old aircraft, nevertheless still perfectly airworthy.

The trouble is Jet2 can't get their new aircraft quick enough and they're not the only ones with tech issues. Every time I do a nightshift an A/C comes back with some sort of issue. They're not built to last forever and everything has a shelf life.

The based LY-VEN has an imaculate cockpit and the cabin is in good condition too. I do believe this aircraft had a D check not too long ago though.

I'd bet some daily mail or reporter from another rag trolls through these forums looking for info on this sort of stuff. They might just take the tosh and believe whatever bull some are coming out with. Please be careful what you say.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 10:11
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As far as "how old is my aircraft" is concerned
Good job some people don't fly with BUFFALO AIRWAYS then.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 22:28
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Freebird showing as operating a Dalaman route.
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