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Old 21st Feb 2016, 17:41
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AF/KLM

The reason NCL doesn't see larger AF aircraft on a regular basis is that Cityjet are an independent airline operating on the behalf of AF, they have their own crews on their own schedules, with just three flights a day there's only really potential for AF to throw something like an A320 into the mix on one of the three flights without causing Cityjet operational headaches, as the other two flights will have an impact on operations the following day because of crew and aircraft rotation. Remember that the only aircaft in the WX fleet is the Avro.

KLM on the other hand have the flexibility to upgrade the 737-700 to an -800 or a -900 or vice versa as needs dictate, they have a larger fleet and more flights a day which helps too. That said when something is scheduled as a 737 it's very rarely downgraded to an Embraer, and if it does happen it's usually months in advance.
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 17:47
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But aren't all the Winter KLM flights scheduled as 737's, and EMB's frequently turn up?
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 18:01
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KLM

No, the recent E190 rotations on the lunchtime flight and over the weekends were all scheduled as KLC flights for at least a month before hand, probably as there tends to be a bit of a lull after Christmas, however we are now back to 737 ops for the most part. I believe the only scheduled E190 flight from now on is the 963/964 rotation on a Saturday.

Like I said Above, swapping aircraft around at short notice can cause massive operational headaches and is only done as a last resort, especially when KLM (737) and KLC (E90/F70) are actually separate companies.
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 19:13
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Well Alicante shown 82% increase just shows that the north east is shouting out for more seats

Firstly well done Ryanair
Let's hope Malaga is the same when that starts

There is room for Ryanair even if do need to improve customer service
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 19:14
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Large 4 engine cargo Antalov? came in this afternoon around 2.40pm - Didn't get close look but seemed to have Kuwait (possibly UAE) flag on tail. Could this be for De la Rue or other heavy cargo.
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 21:11
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Cant go wrong with bucket and spade from NCL, I recon RYR on the Palma next.
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Old 21st Feb 2016, 21:31
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I'm thinking FARO next for Ryanair as its more of a year round place
PMI AND IBZ for the summer maybe even TFS,ACE as these 2 would be year round

With the bfs loading looks like that is another flight normally full and rumours of Ryanair doing BFS-NCL this winter maybe we can see a few other routes too.

Hamburg is a Ryanair base from November be nice to see NCL-HAM
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Old 22nd Feb 2016, 10:18
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Eurowings NCL and EDI price comparison!!

Just checked flights with Eurowings to Dusseldorf for 14th April to 21st April from NCL and Edinburgh . Surprised to see huge price difference: From NCL return is £189 compared to £59 return from Edinburgh. Similar price differentials on other dates.

https://www.eurowings.com/en.html
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Old 22nd Feb 2016, 16:25
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I think you may have misread the fares...The discounted fare NCL - DUS using those dates is £159.98 (discounted) and EDI - DUS is £109.98 (discounted) i.e. using Debit Card.

Still a differential of £50 though in EDI favour.
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Old 22nd Feb 2016, 17:17
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Fares were as I stated when I checked. Play around with the dates from Edinburgh and you may find the £59 return fare (especially on dates when A320 is planned to operate, I found quite a few days matching to show the £59 return) These are on the Lowest fare ("Basic")- No such fares ex NCL

I think you may be looking at the intermediate "Smart" fare

Just checked 14th - 21st April now and it is showing £29.99 Outbound and £39.99 Inbound - Total Return Fare £69.98

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Old 22nd Feb 2016, 21:35
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Originally Posted by venturego
Large 4 engine cargo Antalov? came in this afternoon around 2.40pm - Didn't get close look but seemed to have Kuwait (possibly UAE) flag on tail. Could this be for De la Rue or other heavy cargo.
I think I spotted it going out again at around 4:40pm today. Could be wrong, though.
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Old 23rd Feb 2016, 12:18
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Still parked on apron at 11.30am today (unless this is another) Caught first part of reg "KAF" suggesting it to be Kuwait Air Force/Govt. Could it therefore be a Boeing C-17A (although it is painted white with some (red?)waistline marking. (Although I didn't get a great look)

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Old 23rd Feb 2016, 22:05
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C-17 Newcastle

Hey everyone, its a Kuwait Air Force C-17A KAF343 in for De La Rue.
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Old 24th Feb 2016, 10:48
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KAF C17 doing a money cargo flight that according to previous post;

cargo flights
Think you will find most of these "special" flights go out of Robin Hood and Stansted.
Newcastle. Not able to handle...


Mmmmmmm!
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Old 24th Feb 2016, 11:22
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Old 24th Feb 2016, 16:25
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mmmmmmm!

Go on ...have to respond....the only flights Newcastle get ARE the aforementioned .

Do you all not think it's strange that these ARE the only type of this flight handled...surely the company does more than one country?

Jordanian AF IL 76. Stansted
Iranian 747 through Doncaster mmmmmmm !!! now I wonder what they were doing?
Newcastle used to regularly have flights all over,Africa,Phillipeans even Norway..not now!
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Old 24th Feb 2016, 16:32
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No main deck wide-body freighter capability. I think that's the point being made. Far fewer narrow body freighters around.
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Old 24th Feb 2016, 19:15
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High ground on the 07 end doesn't favour cargo aircraft either. Heard a tale that one of the Kuwait 747s had to wait until the wind turned back in favour of a 07 departure.
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Old 25th Feb 2016, 06:59
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airport capabilities

Could be right /probably right about the cargo handling capability.
As the airport has way below national airport passenger growth at the moment and has been for a few years,you would think they would invest in other business,especially the potential for freight on their doorstep?or are they happy for it all to go elsewhere?
Hangerage is also pretty appaling for an airport like that??

Me thinks all the eggs in one basket syndrome and if APD does disappear from Scotland then other avenues of income will be needed?
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Old 25th Feb 2016, 10:59
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Due to EU monopoly regulation's the airport cannot invest in handling equipment which is what is needed I believe, handling agents have to own the equipment! The airport used to have this equipment but had to sell to a handling agent who I will not name who promptly sold it onwards away from airport!!
But at least Kuwait still comes here as could of the IL76, only wide body freight aircraft are effected! Saying this my info is a few years out of date so??
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