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Its interesting to read some peoples ideas(dreams) for NCL routes. I'm sure that there is a group of people expecting a new long haul announcement every week!
For a route to start, there HAS to be demand, not just a little demand that will fill the odd flight, the demand has to be more than viable. Then there is the start up costs, then the operating costs etc. If the route isn't profitable, it doesnt start. So don't be expecting 2 or 3 airlines fight to fly to NCL from the states, or other long haulers like canada etc crop up.
There is still a load of european destinations that NCL doesnt serve. Whether this is down to the lack of demand, or lack of bothering from management, i do not know.
If any of the likes of FRA etc happen, it wont be a 4x daily LH A320 or whatever, it will start of small and progressively improve. We wont be seeing the likes of Vueling take over from RYR, we wont be seeing Jet2 announce a host of long haul destinations from NCL to the likes of Canada.
If its purely down to spotters wanting to see long haul airliners, take a trip to one of airport in the UK that see them daily.
For a route to start, there HAS to be demand, not just a little demand that will fill the odd flight, the demand has to be more than viable. Then there is the start up costs, then the operating costs etc. If the route isn't profitable, it doesnt start. So don't be expecting 2 or 3 airlines fight to fly to NCL from the states, or other long haulers like canada etc crop up.
There is still a load of european destinations that NCL doesnt serve. Whether this is down to the lack of demand, or lack of bothering from management, i do not know.
If any of the likes of FRA etc happen, it wont be a 4x daily LH A320 or whatever, it will start of small and progressively improve. We wont be seeing the likes of Vueling take over from RYR, we wont be seeing Jet2 announce a host of long haul destinations from NCL to the likes of Canada.
If its purely down to spotters wanting to see long haul airliners, take a trip to one of airport in the UK that see them daily.
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If its purely down to spotters wanting to see long haul airliners, take a trip to one of airport in the UK that see them daily.
Anyhow, been a good week for the airport with Brussels and Gatwick announcements and the start of EIR's DUB flights.
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Well since OltonPete mentioned the number of 3 class 77Ws earlier in the month, it has been back toi the normal 2 class a/c for the last 11 days (other than 1 x 442 seater).
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What I don't understand is, when people try to make friendly discussion about what routes they would like to see, what routes they think may work, we're automatically pipe dreaming and demanding that the airport's not good enough. No, we're just discussing, talking. It's a forum, if we only ever talked about what ACTUALLY happens this thread would have been dead for the last few months.
Anyway the first EI flight was 100% LF.
Anyway the first EI flight was 100% LF.
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My post Copied from DTV as they refer also to Newcastle
Quote:
DTVA is on the Balkan Holidays website for next year:
Durham Tees Valley Airport flights to Bulgaria
Ops Monday morning 4 August-1 September BGH5583/84 08.30-09.30
DTVA is on the Balkan Holidays website for next year:
Durham Tees Valley Airport flights to Bulgaria
Ops Monday morning 4 August-1 September BGH5583/84 08.30-09.30
We can then resource better rail and express coach links from Teeside and Northumberland (as proposed in the plan submitted by Lord Adonis) The North East via Newcastle can then be as sucessful as Manchester is for the North West! - Please read Lord Adonis' report. All of Teeside could connect to Newcastle International Airport in less than 50 mins!! (Less than centre of London to Heathrow!!) - and would attract links to US, Asia, More of Europe etc...
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We can then resource better rail and express coach links from Teeside and Northumberland (as proposed in the plan submitted by Lord Adonis)
The North East via Newcastle can then be as sucessful as Manchester is for the North West!
All of Teeside could connect to Newcastle International Airport in less than 50 mins!!
Ps - two 's' in Teesside!
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Lord Adonis' report suggests :An extended North East Region (LA7 including Northumberland to Teeside) should be promoted as a wider region benefitting from increased population, infrastructure, industry, tourism, potential etc...
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/files/28979
Liverpool relies on Ryanair (little profit)
Blackpool similar business model.
Private bus companies & train operators do not provide an integrated network to connect the wider region. This needs support from a larger Nexus style operation based on a similar model to Transport for London.
Travellers arriving at Newcastle travelling to Stockton / Middlesbrough need to know they can easily link via Metro-Trains-Buses/Coach transfer etc... - Is not currently well communicated.
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/files/28979
Liverpool relies on Ryanair (little profit)
Blackpool similar business model.
Private bus companies & train operators do not provide an integrated network to connect the wider region. This needs support from a larger Nexus style operation based on a similar model to Transport for London.
Travellers arriving at Newcastle travelling to Stockton / Middlesbrough need to know they can easily link via Metro-Trains-Buses/Coach transfer etc... - Is not currently well communicated.
And all Newcastle fans should support Sunderland! Same old...!
And where is Teeside? A long time ago we had Teesside before Cleveland, we now only have Durham and North Yorkshire.
And where is Teeside? A long time ago we had Teesside before Cleveland, we now only have Durham and North Yorkshire.
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Lord Adonis' report suggests :An extended North East Region (LA7 including Northumberland to Teeside) should be promoted as a wider region benefitting from increased population, infrastructure, industry, tourism, potential etc...
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/files/28979
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/files/28979
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With last weeks announcements from Easyjet and BMI plus the new Aer Lingus Regional service to Dublin it is easy to see which airport the airlines look to for new routes. A joint regional approach would produce better results long term.
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Updates
Hi guys
Ive been away for the past few weeks so just catching up with whats been happening....
Good news about BMI starting the Brussels route again, however i feel they are a year too late. They should have started the route as soon as Flybe pulled the aircraft from NCL last summer. BMI will have to do a lot of advertising to gain the 4,500 pax that used to use the service on a monthly.
Still unsure if the route will work this time round. BMI seem to have launched loads of services from BRS and BHX last summer and are now dropping some of them as they aren't making money on them.
Airline press reports talking about adding a 3rd daily flight before the route has started again i think they need to walk first and see how the 2x daily goes.
Talking about other routes they want to start i wonder what they are??
Good news about Easyjet also
Ive been away for the past few weeks so just catching up with whats been happening....
Good news about BMI starting the Brussels route again, however i feel they are a year too late. They should have started the route as soon as Flybe pulled the aircraft from NCL last summer. BMI will have to do a lot of advertising to gain the 4,500 pax that used to use the service on a monthly.
Still unsure if the route will work this time round. BMI seem to have launched loads of services from BRS and BHX last summer and are now dropping some of them as they aren't making money on them.
Airline press reports talking about adding a 3rd daily flight before the route has started again i think they need to walk first and see how the 2x daily goes.
Talking about other routes they want to start i wonder what they are??
Good news about Easyjet also
Brussels was a SN route, using leased BE a/c towards the end. I think interlining with SN would be important for the route as well. Agree that BM's strategy looks all over the place at the moment.
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Thomson @DTV
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Been reported on the DTV thread that Thomson have pulled all summer 2014 flights from DTV airport
Wonder what plans they have are they to add extra flights from ncl or lds or is it a case of use what flights they have already
Been reported on the DTV thread that Thomson have pulled all summer 2014 flights from DTV airport
Wonder what plans they have are they to add extra flights from ncl or lds or is it a case of use what flights they have already
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That was nothing, speculation but they were probably just some friends of people who work at NCL or something haha. I've seen loads of virgin crew at NCL before and once I went up to one (she wasn't busy) and she said that her parents etc lived up here but she was based at LHR so she said she flew up from LHR every week or every other week whenever she had days off to see them, so... Could have something to do with that, as I say, friends up for a look around. They'll all have airside passes. Or it could be to do with the few virgin holiday places popping up around the NE.
I asked one of them too and they said that there was potential after 2015 at the earliest. She said we might hear something in 2016/17. 787's???
I asked one of them too and they said that there was potential after 2015 at the earliest. She said we might hear something in 2016/17. 787's???
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There's a lot of Virgin crew who live in NCL and commute to LHR/LGW but they wouldn't be wandering around the ramp, nor would their friends!? Not sure what the apparent Virgin people who were spotted were doing but I'm almost certain they wouldn't have been looking around because they were someone's Friend. Just because you have an airside pass at one airport doesn't automatically mean you can access airside areas with that pass at other airports.
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