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Just been reading a report on Manchester Airport future routes and NCL is listed as being on the cusp of needing an air link.
Dubai would need a huge increase on October 12, which carried a weak 13,215 pax
Dubai would need a huge increase on October 12, which carried a weak 13,215 pax
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Based on the aircraft used during september, more 428 seaters than previous months, a total of 22708 seats were available (of course EK would be selling for 428 seats all month, but anyhow lets see), the average load works out as 83.98%.
Other routes:
Copenhagen 1969
Paris CDG 12330 -26%
Dusseldorf 2962 -32%
Dublin 11103 -16%
Amsterdam 31993 +28%
Stavanger 2094 -7%
Gatwick 7572 -3%
Heathrow 43782 +3%
Aberdeen 2702 +45%
Bristol 14199 +10%
Jersey 2238 +11%
Southampton 8172 +2%
Sunshine routes a mixed bag.
Other routes:
Copenhagen 1969
Paris CDG 12330 -26%
Dusseldorf 2962 -32%
Dublin 11103 -16%
Amsterdam 31993 +28%
Stavanger 2094 -7%
Gatwick 7572 -3%
Heathrow 43782 +3%
Aberdeen 2702 +45%
Bristol 14199 +10%
Jersey 2238 +11%
Southampton 8172 +2%
Sunshine routes a mixed bag.
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Dubai
September saw 9 three class 77w's used and at an average of 360 seats available per sector I make the load factor around 78%.
Assuming yields weren't sacrificed to get bums on seats (although sometimes that has to be done in the short-term), then it seems to be going in the right direction.
Similar happened with Turkish at BHX, dreadful loads for quite a while then fares we're cut and a big promotional campaign and things turned round dramatically without affecting other hub services - well for a while anyway although there was some evidence EK we're hit for a while when TK went 10 weekly. No doubt TK will be one airline to chase in future for NCL.
However without being too downbeat I see that 10 three-class aircraft have already visited this month on EK35 but Eid does affect loads for a few days and maybe things have picked up again with the last four flights have been two class versions.
Pete
Assuming yields weren't sacrificed to get bums on seats (although sometimes that has to be done in the short-term), then it seems to be going in the right direction.
Similar happened with Turkish at BHX, dreadful loads for quite a while then fares we're cut and a big promotional campaign and things turned round dramatically without affecting other hub services - well for a while anyway although there was some evidence EK we're hit for a while when TK went 10 weekly. No doubt TK will be one airline to chase in future for NCL.
However without being too downbeat I see that 10 three-class aircraft have already visited this month on EK35 but Eid does affect loads for a few days and maybe things have picked up again with the last four flights have been two class versions.
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"Just been reading a report on Manchester Airport future routes and NCL is listed as being on the cusp of needing an air link"
Sorry, could you clarify please? I didn't quite get it haha. Is that talking about MAN-NCL flight? I'd say that's an excellent idea.
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Martin
Sorry, could you clarify please? I didn't quite get it haha. Is that talking about MAN-NCL flight? I'd say that's an excellent idea.
Thanks
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Just been reading a report on Manchester Airport future routes and NCL is listed as being on the cusp of needing an air link.
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Yes, it was saying that a NCL - MAN airlink was needed in the near future.
NCL now appears on 2 domestic airports wishlists for a new route, the other one is Norwich.
NCL now appears on 2 domestic airports wishlists for a new route, the other one is Norwich.
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It would be good to see Turkish serving their Istanbul hub from NCL but I think the fact that it now serves Edinburgh might prevent that happening. I hope not.
I notice that the airport said it was talking to airlines about taking on the Gatwick route.....no announcement yet from Easyjet.
I notice that the airport said it was talking to airlines about taking on the Gatwick route.....no announcement yet from Easyjet.
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Off topic but are KLM ever getting those E170's??? I'm sure they were supposed to be to replace the 70's.
Also I've heard we're supposed to be getting a new Spanish airline next year? Vueling??? Would be nice, been waiting for them for a few years now.
Also I've heard we're supposed to be getting a new Spanish airline next year? Vueling??? Would be nice, been waiting for them for a few years now.
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I seem to remember that Dan-Air's Link City service in the 70s/80s included a MAN-NCL sector. It'd be great to have it back. I'd far prefer to fly (35/40 mins?) than to trog into central Newcastle, spend £60 and 3h30m on the train to get to Manchester Airport.
Sadly, it would be quite contrary to NCL's own route development ambitions to funnel traffic to a local competitor. However, if no-one comes forward to operate the Gatwick route, it suddenly becomes more of a feasible option. Manchester is, of course, flybe's domestic hub.
Sadly, it would be quite contrary to NCL's own route development ambitions to funnel traffic to a local competitor. However, if no-one comes forward to operate the Gatwick route, it suddenly becomes more of a feasible option. Manchester is, of course, flybe's domestic hub.
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Any reason why TCX's TFS flight landed at GLA and is now travelling back to NCL?
Doesn't seem as if the earlier evacuation would of affected this flight, might be wrong though..
Doesn't seem as if the earlier evacuation would of affected this flight, might be wrong though..
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What happened with the TCX evacuation? I was at the airport this morning and as I left at about 10:15 there were 2 ambulances going in. Also, on Saturday when I was there, once again as I was leaving at about 07:50 there was an ambulance going in. Unlucky coincidence?
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Extra flights to scotland for their school holidays , there was 4 TCX 757s on approach to GLA when I looked that was including our 757 , all of which positioned back to their bases.
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Besides, I believe the Newcastle-Man Airport train will be readjusted to go to Liverpool instead in the near future.
And who'd want to go to Liverpool? If the Newcastle-M'cr Airport service ceased, folks would have to change trains at Manchester Piccadilly, making a direct air service twice as attractive.
I agree that such a service is unlikely; but as another poster had mentioned it, I reminisced how nice it would be to have something like the old Dan-Air Link City service - though at a frequency that made sense. Plenty of people fly Manchester-Edinburgh, so those aiming for the Berwick corridor may prefer a Newcastle service.
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If they could get someone like Loganair in on it to do MAN and NWI at the same time I think they'd be on to a winner. Or maybe Bmi? Or Eastern, although cracking back into MAN just for NCL may be a bit too expensive. Unless they did MAN-NWI and MAN-ABZ at the same time or something like that.