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BA wouldn't be able to compete with LS, never mind FR and U2 out of MAN! They have too high a running cost. They only work effective out of large, slot capped airports such as LHR and it is the best place for them - as for major airline that fly as a major hub from one city within their country:
EY - AUH
AF - CDG/ORY
EK - DXB
QR - DOH
Probably more...
EY - AUH
AF - CDG/ORY
EK - DXB
QR - DOH
Probably more...
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CX to pull Tuesdays and Saturdays flight until OCT 09, at this point they will re-evaluate.
Also heard a rumour last week (and it was only a rumour) that SQ are looking to pull out completely from EGCC
Also heard a rumour last week (and it was only a rumour) that SQ are looking to pull out completely from EGCC
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It is normal at this time of the year for the Freighter Carriers to reduce flights before starting to build up again from late September tomid October. Only this year with overall volume down by 20 to 50% we have seen a far bigger pre summer reduction. This is typical across the major cargo airpirts in Europe.
Also heard a rumour last week (and it was only a rumour) that SQ are looking to pull out completely from EGCC
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Stoney bridge, have to agree, BA are long gone. The problems at MAN are nothing to do with BA anymore.
The airport needs to get back to thinking about service. Service to the airlines, passengers and employees. I am so sick of seeing the place go to the dogs, that I actually used AC via LHR last month!!! Guess what, it was much easier to find my way around LHR T3, than T2 at MAN and I have been using the MAN for 30 years!! It is like a challenge to make it more disaster prone everytime I go!! I am not talking about building a new Terminal, I am talking about making what you have easier to use.
Sadly the Management seem to have lost the plot, bless em. Give it a few more years and the Airport could be Wal-Marts first Manchester Mega Store!! Hang on, maybe Wal-Mart would be better at running the place as an airport!!
The airport needs to get back to thinking about service. Service to the airlines, passengers and employees. I am so sick of seeing the place go to the dogs, that I actually used AC via LHR last month!!! Guess what, it was much easier to find my way around LHR T3, than T2 at MAN and I have been using the MAN for 30 years!! It is like a challenge to make it more disaster prone everytime I go!! I am not talking about building a new Terminal, I am talking about making what you have easier to use.
Sadly the Management seem to have lost the plot, bless em. Give it a few more years and the Airport could be Wal-Marts first Manchester Mega Store!! Hang on, maybe Wal-Mart would be better at running the place as an airport!!
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Also heard a rumour last week (and it was only a rumour) that SQ are looking to pull out completely from EGCC
Would that be this one Post #1006
No Turin, this was from much closer to home, we have BlocK Space Allocation from Shanghai for freight on SQ and have been told (by a member of staff who has just been made redundent in China, hence the rumour) that SQ will pull EGCC later this year.
Would that be this one Post #1006
No Turin, this was from much closer to home, we have BlocK Space Allocation from Shanghai for freight on SQ and have been told (by a member of staff who has just been made redundent in China, hence the rumour) that SQ will pull EGCC later this year.
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MAN 5 years on
Made a quick business day trip from LHR to MAN yesterday, first time there in 5 years and what a change. T3 is like arriving and departing from a third world airport, upstairs then downstairs, dark dirty passageways, escalators not working, strange security gates, hand written signs, even the lift to the BA lounge has broken glass held together with black tape. If the rest of the airport is like T3 its not surprising that the likes of SQ would pull out. Just 20 people on the outbound but a good load inbound. How sad to see a once good airport in this condition - more like a bus station. Arriving back at T5 was a joy as ever, a world class facility.
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Some thoughts on MAN T3. Recently flew MAN-LGW and the security in T3 was quick and efficient. The on-line boarding cards opened the gates, and I got through the search in approx 5 minutes with none of the taking off the shoes/belt nonsense. Airside ok, but a little confusing with the ever expanding retail, so went straight to the gate. Seating at the gate was fine and comfortable and down the bridge to the aircaft, an older BA 737.
Push back on-time, no taxi delays, probably due to 05L in use.
Evidently the BA crew wanted to get on with their journey, so arrived LGW North 17 mins early. No bridge, so we sat on the a/c for about, 17 mins. When released, had to follow the confusing maze of corridors to arrivals, to arrive, eventually, at the rail station with train chaos.
Having just made my meeting, I set out for the return. Again with BA and took plenty of time to clear LGW security, I timed the security check at 35 minutes after the queue, the boarding card check, then the x-ray, then the shoe x-ray. Airside was fine at LGW.
Flight back to MAN, on time this time. On stand, down the bridge, OK one change of level to Arrivals, but only a short walk, auto exit-gates and back at my car within 10 mins of landing.
MAN may have its faults, but on my lastest trip, it did a pretty good job, especially if you're not keen on spending much time in airports.
Push back on-time, no taxi delays, probably due to 05L in use.
Evidently the BA crew wanted to get on with their journey, so arrived LGW North 17 mins early. No bridge, so we sat on the a/c for about, 17 mins. When released, had to follow the confusing maze of corridors to arrivals, to arrive, eventually, at the rail station with train chaos.
Having just made my meeting, I set out for the return. Again with BA and took plenty of time to clear LGW security, I timed the security check at 35 minutes after the queue, the boarding card check, then the x-ray, then the shoe x-ray. Airside was fine at LGW.
Flight back to MAN, on time this time. On stand, down the bridge, OK one change of level to Arrivals, but only a short walk, auto exit-gates and back at my car within 10 mins of landing.
MAN may have its faults, but on my lastest trip, it did a pretty good job, especially if you're not keen on spending much time in airports.
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Just thought i'd let all crews/airline represtentation and unwary Ramp staff know about this one. . .
Now as you all know, tis a great and fundamental rule that arriving and departing pax shall never mix. Witness the herculean efforts put in place to ensure this at MAN! To further aid 'efficient operation' (stop laughing) the rule has been (certainly since it was enforced in late 2001!) that 'Arriving Pax shall have priority over Departing Pax', the thought being that its always quicker pouring pax OFF a plane than finding them to put ON it!
But now. . .
ALL CHANGE!!! - We are now hearing rumours about some form of 'Secret Memo' sent by our beloved Airport Landlords to some (but not All) airport companies (and you can bet NOT the AIRLINES) that the rule has changed. As of now . .'Whoever gets there first gets to complete their tasks' . .so as you can imagine, offloading a full A330 off 29 may have to wait a bit if EK are putting a full load onto their B773 next door! Similarly B Pier will be a hot, stuffy nightmare with arriving pax queueing to get OFF their aircraft. Joy.
So when the Dispatcher comes and tells you that the SLF you've put up with for 4hours have to wait a further 20mins to get off due to a Departing flight using the same corridor . . . you'll know why!
Sensible Policies From the Gateway to the World
T-M-Doorkeeper
Now as you all know, tis a great and fundamental rule that arriving and departing pax shall never mix. Witness the herculean efforts put in place to ensure this at MAN! To further aid 'efficient operation' (stop laughing) the rule has been (certainly since it was enforced in late 2001!) that 'Arriving Pax shall have priority over Departing Pax', the thought being that its always quicker pouring pax OFF a plane than finding them to put ON it!
But now. . .
ALL CHANGE!!! - We are now hearing rumours about some form of 'Secret Memo' sent by our beloved Airport Landlords to some (but not All) airport companies (and you can bet NOT the AIRLINES) that the rule has changed. As of now . .'Whoever gets there first gets to complete their tasks' . .so as you can imagine, offloading a full A330 off 29 may have to wait a bit if EK are putting a full load onto their B773 next door! Similarly B Pier will be a hot, stuffy nightmare with arriving pax queueing to get OFF their aircraft. Joy.
So when the Dispatcher comes and tells you that the SLF you've put up with for 4hours have to wait a further 20mins to get off due to a Departing flight using the same corridor . . . you'll know why!
Sensible Policies From the Gateway to the World
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Following Higher Archie's post, used T3 Fri out and Sun back. Much better than December, especially really quick security and immigration clearance. One broken escalator. Not a straightforward journey to/from station though, bit confusing if you don't know there's a bus.
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Oh you have put the spanner in the works now!
No airline, no destination, no frequency, no a/c type? Oh you tease...
Could you at least give us a day?
No airline, no destination, no frequency, no a/c type? Oh you tease...
Could you at least give us a day?
Friday the latest. Will be a five times weekly service by an airline that currently does not serve MAN - and it will be with a "proper" jet aircraft. But for now I shall
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As the news has just been leaked in Germany as far as the destination is concerned and thus is in the public domain....
...I can confirm that your guess is right. Schedule should be out by tomorrow, with bookings possible from noon-time.
At BHX, it was vice versa - Germanwings starting the route and TUIFly taking over (before pulling it). TUIFly will pull out of the English market completely as HAJ-NCL will also disappear. There were times when HLX/TUIfly served LTN, CVT, BHX, MAN and NCL.
Germanwings A319s taking over the Tui flight to Cologne 5 times a
week from October. Could that be the secret ?
week from October. Could that be the secret ?
At BHX, it was vice versa - Germanwings starting the route and TUIFly taking over (before pulling it). TUIFly will pull out of the English market completely as HAJ-NCL will also disappear. There were times when HLX/TUIfly served LTN, CVT, BHX, MAN and NCL.