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Old 7th May 2009, 16:55
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ILS

It has been reported on another site that MAN has signed a contract with Thales for the supply and installation of Two CATIII ILS/DME systems at MAN

Does anyone know which runways these are for
Are they for 23R/05L or 23l/05R

If the former what is happening to theexisting CATIIIon this runway
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LS863 MAN-MJV today delayed by 5 hours due to military activity at MJV.

Cock up by Jet2 or change of mind by Spanish?

Also, second runway at MJV appears complete but I have not seen it used, anyone know when it will be in service?
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Old 8th May 2009, 15:34
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ILS replacement

Two new THALES 420 ILS + a new DME for 05L-23R, CAT 3B. These will replace the existing THOMSON 381s which have been there for over 20 years!
Project starts in the summer.
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Man - Mjv

LS863 MAN-MJV today is showing cancelled on Flight Stats.
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It was cancelled from its original path and reinstated at a later time with the same flight code.
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ILS Replacement

Thought that might be the case.

What is happening to the two Thomson ones.

Will they be moved to 23L/05R because 23L currently has no ILS and 05R only CAT I.

There was talk last year of 05R getting CAT III not necessarily new and the CAT I being moved to 23L.

In the normal course of events 23L isn't used that much for arrivals but 05R is. In an ideal world all should have CAT III but CAT I on 23L is probably all that is required at present based on the current use.
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Old 8th May 2009, 19:45
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LS863 MAN-MJV today delayed by 5 hours due to military activity at MJV.

Cock up by Jet2 or change of mind by Spanish?
Spanish change of mind unfortunately, they're causing some disruption with this arrangement.
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Old 8th May 2009, 22:28
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Jet2s choice to take the risk. The airport is officially closed to civilian traffic until 1300 gmt Mon-Fri however there are 3 20 minute windows allowed by the military before this time which can also be withdrawn by the military at any time. This is what J2 were aiming for. A bit Mickey Mouse in my opinion. I bet they don't tell the pax that when they book...
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I bet they don't tell the pax that when they book...
They certainly don't.
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Jet2's plan 'B' - Fly to ALC and bus the pax from there. I believe they wait until the aircraft is in the air before telling the passengers though !!
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Man - Sfb

Hi all,

Doing MAN - SFB on 4th June 2009 with TCX. Any ideas of airplane used? I know it's 99% guaranteed to be a Airbus A332, but do they allocate specific airplanes at this time or is it just whatever has slotted in?

Heard TCX upgraded their A332's with leather seats and increased pitch, anyone had experience of these said upgrades?

Must beat the 2003 flight I took from Manchester or SFB on an old 747-200 with European with the roof tilings coming loose and the toilets being in the dark :P

Cheers all.
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I don't know TCX's current cabins but I do know they were going to try and match TOM/FCA config. Just leaves MON now...

The only aircraft that it would be apart from the A332 is the A333 yet this is being based at LGW so I doubt it.
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Ah I wasn't aware that TCX owned any A333's, they're fleet status says they own only 6 A330-200's
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TCX/MYT will be using an A333 from it's Scandinavian sister this summer and basing it at LGW as far as I know.
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Yeah just browsing on planespotters.net showing a few A333's with the MYT colours. Still think I'm going to be flying on a A332 with TCX colours of course ;P
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Jet2's plan 'B' - Fly to ALC and bus the pax from there. I believe they wait until the aircraft is in the air before telling the passengers though !!
My understanding is that the situation was still under negotiation when the aircraft departed, so even the crew didn't know at that stage where they were going to end up, that's why the pax weren't bussed from MJV to ALC till the aircraft landed in ALC.

Not ideal I agree, but a lot better than some other lo-co's we can think of that wouldn't think twice about dumping the pax at ALC without transporting them to MJV, then cancelling the inbound flight from MJV and leaving the pax stranded.
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From the Air Livery website:

The interesting item is the setting of an operational date of July 2009.

"Air Livery PLC are proud to announce the latest addition to their international paint facilities with a new state of the art aircraft refinishing centre at Manchester Airport, United Kingdom.

This new facility will increase our wide body capabilities allowing us to accommodate aircraft up to the new Airbus 350XWB and the Boeing 747-800 Intercontinental whilst maintaining our current A330, A340, B777 and B747-400 operation.

The Manchester location provides a huge advantage for our airline clients as we will be able to work with them to eliminate the need for any ‘dead leg’ flights thus keeping ferry flights and repositioning costs to a minimum. The location of this new centre has been selected specifically to respond to our customer’s needs in order to reduce their aircraft refinishing costs and also to widen Air Livery’s customer base to include the United States of America, Far East and Africa.

This new facility will offer the latest application equipment along with full extraction and climate control that will provide excellent conditions for refinishing any aircraft. Along with our high Quality Standards (ISO 9001: 2000, ISO 14001: 1996 and OHSAS 18001: 1996) this will allow us to provide our clients with the perfect end result.

Operational from July ’09, the Manchester facility will enable Air Livery Plc to continue to deliver a high quality end product, total flexibility with minimum downtime and provide a cost effective solution to all our clients’ requirements."
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Old 10th May 2009, 20:37
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They are having the ex BA hangar, about time it was put into proper use.

Should generate some interesting movements.
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Old 10th May 2009, 20:47
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For all TCX speculaters out there.....
1 A330-300 will be based at LGW during the summer, and fly to destinations like
Dalaman,SFB and the carribean. I guess it will be -VKG - which is still in MYT colours. Of course VKG won't just fly from Gatwick, it will fly from ARN to Turkey,Greece and PMI. While OSL normally gets -VKH to the same destinations.
-VKI will go back to Skyservice during the summer so just 2 A333 will stay in
northern Europe. So if you are going to SFB then it's probably A332 - not impossible to get an A333 though...
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Good news about Air Livery. Out of interest, how many hangars are there? Is there still an engineering/maintenance one?
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