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It is all from the flybe website and confirmed in GDS.
Obviously things change at the press of a button these days but they are selling flights for summer 13 based on what I have stated.
However with all these things the information is only good at the time is was taken from the system (which was a few hours ago).
I believe some of it is fairly new as I checked the BHX flights only last week as the 175 schedule seemed incomplete.
I also had one 175 short from the schedule but on checking the INV - MAN service by chance I noticed it had changed from the Q400 but I can't be sure how long it has been loaded.
The swapping of the 175/195 between EDI and BHX has been loaded a few weeks as has the reduction in flights on some days between EDI-SOU
Pete
It is all from the flybe website and confirmed in GDS.
Obviously things change at the press of a button these days but they are selling flights for summer 13 based on what I have stated.
However with all these things the information is only good at the time is was taken from the system (which was a few hours ago).
I believe some of it is fairly new as I checked the BHX flights only last week as the 175 schedule seemed incomplete.
I also had one 175 short from the schedule but on checking the INV - MAN service by chance I noticed it had changed from the Q400 but I can't be sure how long it has been loaded.
The swapping of the 175/195 between EDI and BHX has been loaded a few weeks as has the reduction in flights on some days between EDI-SOU
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In the week there are very few gaps for the jets.
It is the Q400 schedule which seems incomplete and by reducing STR to once daily in the day could result in another unit disappearing.
The Belfast 195 back around 10am seems to do nothing until Milan at 13.40 until the Monday and Friday Jersey starts and the DUS 175 gets in at 10.40 and doesn't operate out until 13.55 but with the other two 175's going to LYS and INV I would imagine that lay-over will come in handy for tech cover.
To me it is plain to see they have tightened their schedule but still have a couple of small gaps and I assume the spare 195.
Pete
In the week there are very few gaps for the jets.
It is the Q400 schedule which seems incomplete and by reducing STR to once daily in the day could result in another unit disappearing.
The Belfast 195 back around 10am seems to do nothing until Milan at 13.40 until the Monday and Friday Jersey starts and the DUS 175 gets in at 10.40 and doesn't operate out until 13.55 but with the other two 175's going to LYS and INV I would imagine that lay-over will come in handy for tech cover.
To me it is plain to see they have tightened their schedule but still have a couple of small gaps and I assume the spare 195.
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Flybe Southampton To Spain Fares...
Are Flybe trying to deliberately price themselves out of this market? Fares between Southampton and Malaga and Southampton Alicante appear to be a good 30%-40% higher for the current season than in previous years. With Ryanair operating routes from Bournemouth to Malaga and Alicante, one has to wonder whether the die hard 'Wont ever use Ryanair' brigade might just be tempted to vote with their feet...
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I was going to use Flybe to Alicante, but when comparing I found Monarch the cheapest from Gatwick. Over £75 per person cheaper.
That's a big difference when there are four of you travelling like us!!
That's a big difference when there are four of you travelling like us!!
But if I am right, BE have increased frequency for some of the Spanish sun routes out of SOU for S13 (eg, ALC up to 5 weekly, PMI up to 4), so they must be doing alright??
Fares are expensive, but will people living near Southampton pay ? If the convenience of a nearby airport still brings in enough customers at higher fares to fill the aircraft, then Flybe are doing the right thing
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The loads on the sun routes were always quote good but traditionally the yields were very poor. Not a lot you can do to make more dosh apart from increase on board sales or stick the prices up and hope people still travel. Can't see on board sales going up unless they provide proper catering and not a skanky, semi frozen, greasy sarnie.
How much can they stick the price up before people stop using those flights?
How much can they stick the price up before people stop using those flights?
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Barcelona fares are noticeably cheaper than the other Spanish/Portuguese 'sun' routes from SOU although I expect this is as it will attract more a mix of city-break and holiday pax, and is yet to be well established. Also worth considering for most of the dates I have looked at there is nigh on no difference between the price of Flybe from SOU and Ryanair from BOH, although the LON airports are noticeably cheaper the fact that Flybe and Ryanair are able to charge these prices in the peak summer suggests that there is enough people in the area willing to pay more to fly from their local airport.
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For the last three years or so my wife has used the Flybe AGP-SOU-AGP route several times a year and in almost every case the return fare maxed out at around £250 / 300€ including 40kgs baggage allowance and a pre-allocated seat. With judicious use of the timetable and flexibility on trael dates it was possible to do it for a lot less.
This year the average return fare is around £400 / 450€ excluding bags and pre-allocated seat. There is also a huge difference between the outbound and inbound fares on the same flight date.
To be honest it looks as if commencing April AGP-LGW-AGP with Norwegian is going to be the best deal of the year if one can live with a midnight arrival at Malaga.
Sorry Flybe but for me you just priced yourselves out of the market and lost a regular customer.
This year the average return fare is around £400 / 450€ excluding bags and pre-allocated seat. There is also a huge difference between the outbound and inbound fares on the same flight date.
To be honest it looks as if commencing April AGP-LGW-AGP with Norwegian is going to be the best deal of the year if one can live with a midnight arrival at Malaga.
Sorry Flybe but for me you just priced yourselves out of the market and lost a regular customer.
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PhalconPhixer...If you could stomach it, you could fly into BOH from AGP and return for much less than either LGW or SOH. Around £125 each including Bags and reserved seating.
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Flybe also ripping customers off when using their rewards4all points. Recently looked at a return flight SOU to GLA. Price using my rewards4all points was 16 points plus £83 return(flight supposed to be free, just pay taxes and charges). If flight booked without using points it was only £60. Why are we paying £23 extra to use our so called loyalty points.
Didn't book in the end, flew LGW to GLA with EZY for £45
Didn't book in the end, flew LGW to GLA with EZY for £45
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@hial flyer - Flybe | Rewards4all | Questions and Answers
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Some of the lowest fares online are loss leaders (the basic fare effectively zero and total fare is less than the taxes and charges). When using the rewards points, full taxes and charges payable by the passenger.
It is an anomaly but it is in T&Cs. And basically, if you can get the fare online cheaper than the rewards points fare, then the online fare is a good deal.
It is an anomaly but it is in T&Cs. And basically, if you can get the fare online cheaper than the rewards points fare, then the online fare is a good deal.
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Rewards4all is a total scam. The inertia of consumer bodies like the OFT means it goes unpunished.
If Flybe really believes it is offering a good deal by loading "negative" revenue fares (they are indeed a good deal) then it should drop the pretence of rewarding loyalty by operating a loyalty scheme in its current form, if at all.
If Flybe really believes it is offering a good deal by loading "negative" revenue fares (they are indeed a good deal) then it should drop the pretence of rewarding loyalty by operating a loyalty scheme in its current form, if at all.
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I'm not sure scam is the right word. At the end of the day, it's pretty clear in the wording that when redeeming points, the passenger pays the tax/charges. If it happens that on that particular flight Flybe have loaded low/loss leading fares which are less than the tax, take advantage of the fare and don't redeem the points. Save them for an occasion when there are no low fares left/available.
(It would be a nice ideas if when getting a fare quote for reward points, the current online fare was shown as a comparison so customers could assess whether the want to pay in points or £).
Many people on this forum are quick to complain about how expensive Flybe are, yet we also have complaints that when they want their free reward flight, the taxes are more than the lead in fare. Doesn't this tell us something about the ridiculous levels of taxation on flying in the UK? If an airline has to pay your taxes for you to get a reasonable lead in fare, then perhaps the taxes are the problem, not the reward scheme.
(It would be a nice ideas if when getting a fare quote for reward points, the current online fare was shown as a comparison so customers could assess whether the want to pay in points or £).
Many people on this forum are quick to complain about how expensive Flybe are, yet we also have complaints that when they want their free reward flight, the taxes are more than the lead in fare. Doesn't this tell us something about the ridiculous levels of taxation on flying in the UK? If an airline has to pay your taxes for you to get a reasonable lead in fare, then perhaps the taxes are the problem, not the reward scheme.
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the problem i have with rewards4all is that you must book a return journey. you cannto book one-way. there is a solution though...use avios.com. and, when using avios.com for a reward one way flight the taxes and charge bore no resemblance to either the return rewards4all or revenue flight taxes and charges.
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There is one exception to the Rewards4All "sham" (read "bad value") ... Almost any domestic Scottish flight on Loganair. Because the taxes and charges are so much lower to/from the Highlands and Islands, a 16 point redemption can bring a Glasgow/Lerwick roundtrip (for instance) down from £250 to less than £40.
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