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On behalf of other forum readers/users I would like to say that none of us take DavyDay or Simonchowder's comments seriously. I fact, it add's a wee bit of humour to the whole thread. They are purely scaremongering and hold no facts about GSM at all.
In fact, if the moderators were actually doing their job properly here they would have been banned them ages ago. MODS where are you?
Like others however I am slightly disappointed at the lack of attack by GSM. I fear they are going to get eaten up by Ryanair, Jet2 & Easyjet and that would be a shame.
Sun hot-spots like SSH, HGH, PFO should be expanded for the winter as should Canadian ski resorts......YVR is ideal for then likes of Whistler, etc. I honestly don't know why Canada (inc YHM) is summer only.
Jet2 are expanding like there's no tomorrow......757's here, 737's there. It's sad, frustrating & worrying that GSM can't follow this example and are cutting back.
For me, it was a sin disposing of G-CEJM!
In fact, if the moderators were actually doing their job properly here they would have been banned them ages ago. MODS where are you?
Like others however I am slightly disappointed at the lack of attack by GSM. I fear they are going to get eaten up by Ryanair, Jet2 & Easyjet and that would be a shame.
Sun hot-spots like SSH, HGH, PFO should be expanded for the winter as should Canadian ski resorts......YVR is ideal for then likes of Whistler, etc. I honestly don't know why Canada (inc YHM) is summer only.
Jet2 are expanding like there's no tomorrow......757's here, 737's there. It's sad, frustrating & worrying that GSM can't follow this example and are cutting back.
For me, it was a sin disposing of G-CEJM!
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Pot -kettle-black.
Carnethy - pot calling the kettle black.(after reading your post)
I only post what I hear .Its up to each individual to make up their own minds.
If you check all my posts they are on different airlines and handling agents,with the info I get from people with in each company.
I have praised where due.I also thank the moderators for letting me have my say.This is a very informative site and we all have oppinions .
Looking forward to the future.
DD
I only post what I hear .Its up to each individual to make up their own minds.
If you check all my posts they are on different airlines and handling agents,with the info I get from people with in each company.
I have praised where due.I also thank the moderators for letting me have my say.This is a very informative site and we all have oppinions .
Looking forward to the future.
DD
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Well DAVYDAY, your "information" appears to be somewhat flawed, even my 8 year old nephew knows that the 787 (Dreamliner) hasn't made it's maiden flight yet!
As was previously mentioned, you are a good source of humour though. A pleasant way of saying a laughing stock! Please keep it up, you are priceless with your mindless drivvle!
As was previously mentioned, you are a good source of humour though. A pleasant way of saying a laughing stock! Please keep it up, you are priceless with your mindless drivvle!
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I only post what I hear
Your personal diatribes against the owner of GSM on the Handling thread and your comments on Alba prove were embarrasing. In business people get hurt and not everything works out. Your posts have a clear personal bias as clearly you were stung quite badly when things went wrong for you on the GSM front.
Back to the thread....is Hamilton really such a great idea in winter? I was there in the summer ( for the museum not travelling ) and the place makes PIK look like a modern marvel and hive of activity. I still think YYZ is a way better bet. All this talk of long haul denies the fact that they tried it and it didn't work out, why get burned twice untill there is a real shift in the market? The bottom line is that if the traffic was there, they'd be flying it. They don't have the bottomless money pit that Ryanair have to try it for six weeks then b***er off and try Plan B.
Look at easyJet in Scotland. Not exactly setting the heather alight. Why is that? It's the fact that the Scottish market is quite an idiosyncratic one in comparison to England. Not that adventurous in large numbers, quite predictable and where people do try out new things, they connect elsewhere to create enough passengers to fly the plane. Outside the summer peaks, the Scottish market is hardly a licence to print money.
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I think its comon knowledge in the industry that another uk operator is close to collapse and people are just assuming its GSM, ive heard all the rumours flying about them at present, but at the moment thats all they are , unfounded rumours, lets be carefull what we wish for
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Im not wishing for gsm to go under smudge, merely stating what most
people already know,.... there toast, another third rate operator that
didnt make it, sad but there you go.
people already know,.... there toast, another third rate operator that
didnt make it, sad but there you go.
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people already know.... there toast, another third rate operator that didnt make it, sad but there you go
Where is your evidence to support this?From what I can see they made a profit last year (in a tough economic climate), they have a contract for flights to Egypt from airports outside of Scotland this winter, they have secured the contract for the Thomas Cook flights from EDI for next summer and are due to take delivery of 2 737s early next year.
This thread is for news or activity within the airline so if you are so obsessed they will fail, why bother wasting time posting on here?
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sfb delay . . . .
so just got a call to say that my flt will leave at 11: 00 not at 06:15, oh well got a hotel room so . . . . . Whats the chance of this being further delayed ?
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It should not be delayed any further. Flight is delayed do to the late departure of the aircraft yesterday and subsequent late arrival into Glasgow this morning - aircraft was tech yesterday afternoon.
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I know GSM havr had there issues SC with perhaps the loss of their ETOPS approval showing them in a very bad light, but things have changed recently and i dont think its really fair to call them a third rate company, they are in trouble at present but so are a lot of other airlines, however i wouldnt say that a collapse is inevitable by any means
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SFB Delay
Malc4d we had the same problem the day before, have no problem with delays, this was late inbound plus a tech delay, but l wish they wopuld give you information and not just have you sit there in departures with nobody to ask.... On the Saturday l had already checked teletext and knew that G-SPNA was doing a JFK/MAN charter, due in at 05:00am and then position to GLA to operate the GLA/SFB. It was late into MAN (DUE AT 08:50) so expected a 1hour delay or so.
Checked-in at GLA asked about delay was told "on-time". waited in lounge still no mention of delay, at 10:15 when you should normally be called to the gate it showed gate 28, delayed until 14:45.
Went to gate, nobody to ask or help. 14:45 came and went now changed to 16:00, at 16:00 an agent at last announced it was now going to be 17:00 and GSM had authorised 4 pound LRV's, but we would have to run back into the Terminal to use them as they were going to call the flight at 16:25 as we were on a coach stand..we could howver use them on the aircraft. We did eventually leave at 17:10, due to a very strong jetstream we took an unusual southerly crossing via the Azores and straight into the Florida coast off Cape Canaveral, which meant a long 10 hour 20 min crossing.
l have no problem with their fares and the leg room and service in flight is excellent, just give more sutomer service on the ground and dont leave us hanging around Glasgow Airport all day with no news......
Checked-in at GLA asked about delay was told "on-time". waited in lounge still no mention of delay, at 10:15 when you should normally be called to the gate it showed gate 28, delayed until 14:45.
Went to gate, nobody to ask or help. 14:45 came and went now changed to 16:00, at 16:00 an agent at last announced it was now going to be 17:00 and GSM had authorised 4 pound LRV's, but we would have to run back into the Terminal to use them as they were going to call the flight at 16:25 as we were on a coach stand..we could howver use them on the aircraft. We did eventually leave at 17:10, due to a very strong jetstream we took an unusual southerly crossing via the Azores and straight into the Florida coast off Cape Canaveral, which meant a long 10 hour 20 min crossing.
l have no problem with their fares and the leg room and service in flight is excellent, just give more sutomer service on the ground and dont leave us hanging around Glasgow Airport all day with no news......
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Must say that this was my second globie flight, and second delayed flight.....First was a couple of years ago.
Looking out of the terminal window to see a 767 minus a wheel...........thought oh ****, that aint gonna be an on time departure.
It seems they couldn't put the wheel back on, so 12 hours later we left GLA in a nice 737. No prob. realy with the delay, **** happens but its the lack of real info from checkin staff about whats going on (they seem to be kept in the dark as well ). A few passengers with just a bit tooooo much booze made a bit of a problem but all in all was so so.
But no sorry emails or phone calls from Globespan though.......
This time was lucky, 22:00 and had just landed from Stansted and was wondering should l book a room or stay in the terminal
when they called and told me of the delay. So l booked a hotel room, slept in till 09:00 
Service and crew were great........
PS
Still wish they left later in the day so that we can fly up in the morning and save on the hotel. Not much of a "cheap" flight when you have to add hotel rooms to the price.
Looking out of the terminal window to see a 767 minus a wheel...........thought oh ****, that aint gonna be an on time departure.
It seems they couldn't put the wheel back on, so 12 hours later we left GLA in a nice 737. No prob. realy with the delay, **** happens but its the lack of real info from checkin staff about whats going on (they seem to be kept in the dark as well ). A few passengers with just a bit tooooo much booze made a bit of a problem but all in all was so so.
But no sorry emails or phone calls from Globespan though.......
This time was lucky, 22:00 and had just landed from Stansted and was wondering should l book a room or stay in the terminal
when they called and told me of the delay. So l booked a hotel room, slept in till 09:00 Service and crew were great........
PS
Still wish they left later in the day so that we can fly up in the morning and save on the hotel. Not much of a "cheap" flight when you have to add hotel rooms to the price.
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The Passenger service at GLA isn't Globespans problem as such, its Alba's. They new about the delay from Manchester, 30 minutes or more before it was scheduled to arrive.
About the comments above re Globespan shuting down, I really cannot see it.
My reasoning behind this is only looking from a Manchester view.
The 767 route to YYC/YVR has been more or less full with the duel pickup over the summer, plus the a/c was full to the brim with cargo on each arrvial into Manchester from Canada.
Ok they have got rid of a/c, but I bet you that no a/c wont be utilized over the winter period, unlike Jet2. Good business sense if u ask me.
Also the ammount of money coming in from the MOD and Air India contracts will keep them afloat alone.
2008 was a much worse yeah for GSM than 2009, I would think there are in better shape than many airlines atm, Namly BMI.
TP
About the comments above re Globespan shuting down, I really cannot see it.
My reasoning behind this is only looking from a Manchester view.
The 767 route to YYC/YVR has been more or less full with the duel pickup over the summer, plus the a/c was full to the brim with cargo on each arrvial into Manchester from Canada.
Ok they have got rid of a/c, but I bet you that no a/c wont be utilized over the winter period, unlike Jet2. Good business sense if u ask me.
Also the ammount of money coming in from the MOD and Air India contracts will keep them afloat alone.
2008 was a much worse yeah for GSM than 2009, I would think there are in better shape than many airlines atm, Namly BMI.
TP
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As mentioned already the downsize is most probably because there was no availble ACMI work for the 738's plus returning them and then taking out a new lease has another benifit, the new leases should be cheaper given the current climate.
The Scheduals are downsized next summer to accomidate the TCX Contract from Edinburgh.
I'd say they are in a very good position and there is too much worry and speculation when things look out of place.
The Scheduals are downsized next summer to accomidate the TCX Contract from Edinburgh.
I'd say they are in a very good position and there is too much worry and speculation when things look out of place.
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Went to gate, nobody to ask or help. 14:45 came and went now changed to 16:00, at 16:00 an agent at last announced it was now going to be 17:00 and GSM had authorised 4 pound LRV's, but we would have to run back into the Terminal to use them as they were going to call the flight at 16:25 as we were on a coach stand..we could howver use them on the aircraft.
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thomascook are offering GSM561/562 EDI-LPA-EDI for S10.
I chose a random date and it worked out a few pounds cheaper to book via flyglobespan. Additionally, thomascook do not offer the usual baggage options available on GSM. They simply include one checked bag as standard and state:
PRE-BOOKABLE CATERING IS NOT AVAILABLE ON THIS FLIGHT. A MAXIMUM OF 15KGS HOLD LUGGAGE ALLOWED + 5KGS HAND BAGGAGE.
This is not GSMs normal baggage policy.
Also, unless things are changing on GSM, pre-booked catering is available on their flights.
Lookes like flythomascook.com can't be bothered to set up their system to process bookings on the shared flights correctly. Presumebly on the actual GSM charters the normal TCX baggage policy etc. will apply.
I chose a random date and it worked out a few pounds cheaper to book via flyglobespan. Additionally, thomascook do not offer the usual baggage options available on GSM. They simply include one checked bag as standard and state:
PRE-BOOKABLE CATERING IS NOT AVAILABLE ON THIS FLIGHT. A MAXIMUM OF 15KGS HOLD LUGGAGE ALLOWED + 5KGS HAND BAGGAGE.
This is not GSMs normal baggage policy.
Also, unless things are changing on GSM, pre-booked catering is available on their flights.
Lookes like flythomascook.com can't be bothered to set up their system to process bookings on the shared flights correctly. Presumebly on the actual GSM charters the normal TCX baggage policy etc. will apply.
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Nobody has any authority here is to that GSM is going to cease operations. There are only two people who are capable of that, TD and probably his financial advisor, the latter I doubt will look at these forums!
However, from the inside looking out, I have to disagree with Killigrew. There is great disinformation floating around the bases and those who work in Colinton. Many are unsure how much longer they have in their jobs and most air crew are actively seeking new employment. Cut backs are occurring across the company, pairing back to the minimum, which although can be expected in times like these, there are reactive and not proactive changes!
Although GSM have made great progress since the disastrous year of 2007, there are a number of errors creeping in, lack of forward thinking! They seem to be going in the same direction once again.
Again, I see no need for additional aircraft for next year given what is in the time tables for next year, which includes all known/won contract work. Only adhoc flights are not included and these would be covered by GSM’s usual last minute change to flight schedules. It wouldn’t surprise me to see a couple of 76’s to go back after the current Hajj – there’s nothing for them to do!
If you have it on good authority that GSM will receive two 73’s next year, do tell. What will they do with them come W10 when the ACMI market is worse than now?
I hope things do improve for them, but in the interim, the crew and staff need clear information and a leader, not a dictator…..!
However, from the inside looking out, I have to disagree with Killigrew. There is great disinformation floating around the bases and those who work in Colinton. Many are unsure how much longer they have in their jobs and most air crew are actively seeking new employment. Cut backs are occurring across the company, pairing back to the minimum, which although can be expected in times like these, there are reactive and not proactive changes!
Although GSM have made great progress since the disastrous year of 2007, there are a number of errors creeping in, lack of forward thinking! They seem to be going in the same direction once again.
Again, I see no need for additional aircraft for next year given what is in the time tables for next year, which includes all known/won contract work. Only adhoc flights are not included and these would be covered by GSM’s usual last minute change to flight schedules. It wouldn’t surprise me to see a couple of 76’s to go back after the current Hajj – there’s nothing for them to do!
If you have it on good authority that GSM will receive two 73’s next year, do tell. What will they do with them come W10 when the ACMI market is worse than now?
I hope things do improve for them, but in the interim, the crew and staff need clear information and a leader, not a dictator…..!
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Name me one airline that is not making cut backs to meet a demand expected for 2010 in order to survive? I know of several FOs that have had to go part time this winter, just to keep their jobs. Demand is down and the airline industry is braced for lower passenger numbers during 2010.