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So, GSM is now left with 5 shorthaul A/C only? 2 x GLA, 1x ABZ, 2x EDI?
I think GSM should update the check-in system and allow online check-in for those without hold luggage. Feel bad for those with hand-luggage only, that book the seats, but have to queue up 30 mins to get the boarding card printed.
I think GSM should update the check-in system and allow online check-in for those without hold luggage. Feel bad for those with hand-luggage only, that book the seats, but have to queue up 30 mins to get the boarding card printed.
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I see 2 of the 763's are away for the HAJ, will GSM be keeping one obviously for the MOD work but the other to be just parked up in GLA or used with the winter schedule.
Has anyone heard about these 2 replacement 738's GSM has coming?
Are they for definate?
Really hope in the enxt few years to be growing again instead of cutting, im guessing with this model though it will almost secure staying in some sort of profit until the good times return for some large expansion, i only hope GSM take advantage of it. The UK as a whole is in need of more competition holiday airline model wise which GSM fits.
Has anyone heard about these 2 replacement 738's GSM has coming?
Are they for definate?
Really hope in the enxt few years to be growing again instead of cutting, im guessing with this model though it will almost secure staying in some sort of profit until the good times return for some large expansion, i only hope GSM take advantage of it. The UK as a whole is in need of more competition holiday airline model wise which GSM fits.
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The GSM fleet over winter will consist of 2 73G and 2 73H based between EDI and GLA, with a rotation through ABZ to cover the winter TFS! As with previous years, ABZ will not be a base for the winter period! The third 73H will be used for the Red Sea contract from MAN and LGW.
There is also a rumour of another contract to West Africa, but like so many things here at GSM, let’s wait and see what happens – I’m not holding my breath!
With regard to the 2 -800’s which have now left the line, as far as I know, there is no intention to replace these for the S10 programme.
I’m sorry to say that I fear for the future of this company! 7 or so months ago, things could not have looked better - excellent OTP, little competition across all bases and record load factors of 95% +
However, the last few months have seen the airline seriously reduce their routes for the winter period, following summer schedule and fleet size. 8 F/O’s have been made redundant across the 73 fleet, after the company attempted to enforce a 25% salary reduction for F/O’s, indefinitely…..! The axe has not only fallen in flight ops, but also in the Ivory Towers at Colinton.
Ryanair and Jet2 are now competing on a number of the routes with GSM at EDI, those sore ones are AGP, ALC and now TFS. With the rumour of another 3 aircraft for Ryanair at EDI and 2 at GLA and at least a further 73 for Jet2 at EDI – things are not looking good.
The only real way for GSM to stabilise and expand will be if TD sells up and moves out, leaving a management team to run the company. Can you see that happening….? Shame really, as the company had the chance to be a great airline serving the loyal Scottish public..
Best of luck!
There is also a rumour of another contract to West Africa, but like so many things here at GSM, let’s wait and see what happens – I’m not holding my breath!
With regard to the 2 -800’s which have now left the line, as far as I know, there is no intention to replace these for the S10 programme.
I’m sorry to say that I fear for the future of this company! 7 or so months ago, things could not have looked better - excellent OTP, little competition across all bases and record load factors of 95% +
However, the last few months have seen the airline seriously reduce their routes for the winter period, following summer schedule and fleet size. 8 F/O’s have been made redundant across the 73 fleet, after the company attempted to enforce a 25% salary reduction for F/O’s, indefinitely…..! The axe has not only fallen in flight ops, but also in the Ivory Towers at Colinton.
Ryanair and Jet2 are now competing on a number of the routes with GSM at EDI, those sore ones are AGP, ALC and now TFS. With the rumour of another 3 aircraft for Ryanair at EDI and 2 at GLA and at least a further 73 for Jet2 at EDI – things are not looking good.
The only real way for GSM to stabilise and expand will be if TD sells up and moves out, leaving a management team to run the company. Can you see that happening….? Shame really, as the company had the chance to be a great airline serving the loyal Scottish public..
Best of luck!
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Chickenstrips,
Although you actually work for the company and what I say is purley speculation, I think you are being a tad pesimistic.
The reduction in routes over the winter period and smaller fleet size is just good buisness over what is normally a very harsh time for Aviation, even more so this year though because of all the recent events involving the economy.
Lets face it salary cuts and redundancies (especially when you reduce your fleet) were inevatable. In regards to the reduction in fleet size, it just insn't possible to operate that schedual with 5 aircraft (6 if one of the 76's lends itself to short haul next year), I stand to be corrected if anyone can prove otherwise. So they must be bringing in at least 2 replacements.
The routes that are operating as we speak are operating at near full, with the exception of the SFB flights.
Its been said often enough that this country is going to feel the effects of the downturn more so next year and it would appear GSM are creating a schedual to coincide with that theory.
Some may think why am I so intrested in the future success of this company...well thats my buisness, but I just hope what you're saying is just as I said, pesimistic.
Although you actually work for the company and what I say is purley speculation, I think you are being a tad pesimistic.
The reduction in routes over the winter period and smaller fleet size is just good buisness over what is normally a very harsh time for Aviation, even more so this year though because of all the recent events involving the economy.
Lets face it salary cuts and redundancies (especially when you reduce your fleet) were inevatable. In regards to the reduction in fleet size, it just insn't possible to operate that schedual with 5 aircraft (6 if one of the 76's lends itself to short haul next year), I stand to be corrected if anyone can prove otherwise. So they must be bringing in at least 2 replacements.
The routes that are operating as we speak are operating at near full, with the exception of the SFB flights.
Its been said often enough that this country is going to feel the effects of the downturn more so next year and it would appear GSM are creating a schedual to coincide with that theory.
Some may think why am I so intrested in the future success of this company...well thats my buisness, but I just hope what you're saying is just as I said, pesimistic.
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Where did you get this information from? How trust worthy is it?
I’ve just checked the programmed time table for S10, and GSM are doing in the main two early flights and two afternoon flights all on the -700’s from EDI. And the same applies for mostly applies at GLA, although it looks like 5 daily destinations. As for ABZ, one early and one late all in the -800.
I just can’t see where there is a need for another 2 -800’s!
gd44
The quick resume above for S10 shows no expansion, maybe at a push a further wet lease for GLA one day per week, but other than that S10 will look the same as W09 with the odd new route on the 76.
Whilst the routes were full over the summer period, it’s rumoured the yield was terrible. This is one of the main reasons for one of the -800’s going to ABZ, which in itself is another nee-jerk reaction that will cost money in the long run.
A quick look at today’s loads is not a pretty sight. Across EDI, GLA and ABZ each flight has between 30 and 60 spare seats. Today we are operating to 12 destinations….
Remember, the Scottish punter will not go without their holidays and will always look for the absolute best deal around. With Ryanair and Jet2 expanding at EDI and probably GLA too – GSM really need to pull their socks up and get on with being a true player in the central belt.
ACMI work is almost non-existent. The 73 has the Red Sea contract confirmed for six months, but that’s all! The 76 has the MOD work for one airframe, a Scanways contract from Copenhagen for another and the Hajj, which is obviously short term.
Maybe I am being pessimistic, but the outlook does suggest so!
Where did you get this information from? How trust worthy is it?
I’ve just checked the programmed time table for S10, and GSM are doing in the main two early flights and two afternoon flights all on the -700’s from EDI. And the same applies for mostly applies at GLA, although it looks like 5 daily destinations. As for ABZ, one early and one late all in the -800.
I just can’t see where there is a need for another 2 -800’s!
gd44
The quick resume above for S10 shows no expansion, maybe at a push a further wet lease for GLA one day per week, but other than that S10 will look the same as W09 with the odd new route on the 76.
Whilst the routes were full over the summer period, it’s rumoured the yield was terrible. This is one of the main reasons for one of the -800’s going to ABZ, which in itself is another nee-jerk reaction that will cost money in the long run.
A quick look at today’s loads is not a pretty sight. Across EDI, GLA and ABZ each flight has between 30 and 60 spare seats. Today we are operating to 12 destinations….
Remember, the Scottish punter will not go without their holidays and will always look for the absolute best deal around. With Ryanair and Jet2 expanding at EDI and probably GLA too – GSM really need to pull their socks up and get on with being a true player in the central belt.
ACMI work is almost non-existent. The 73 has the Red Sea contract confirmed for six months, but that’s all! The 76 has the MOD work for one airframe, a Scanways contract from Copenhagen for another and the Hajj, which is obviously short term.
Maybe I am being pessimistic, but the outlook does suggest so!
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the company had the chance to be a great airline serving the loyal Scottish public..
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Perhaps the load factor on some flights arn't particularly high: Alicante, Malaga, Faro for example, but that is hardly surprising for the time of year.
I was recently going to book for Malaga, but what put me off - It wasn't the flights or their cost - and infact GSM were cheaper than any competitor, it was the weather.
These places arn't great over the winter and the load will significantly reduce, this is where, in my eyes, GSM are doing it wrong. Malaga, Alicante and Faro along with the similar destinations should stop over the winter - maybe a flight here or there - and more Winter sun hot spots should have been created.
They introduced Sharm from Glasgow, surley they could have introduced Hurghada from Edinburgh or try Sharm again from ABZ?
Fuertaventura - Was also trying to book this recently, absolutley no flights and I know there is demand.
Follow Thomson's example and try Barbados over the winter - cruise session.
Cape Verde is becoming a holiday hot spot - but might be out of the NG's range from GLA or EDI, and I can only go on load factors from down south - don't know how well it might work up here.
Finally, Canadian Routes over winter! - Yet to see this happen.
Of course what's the point in posting this here, we can sit and argue and say yes that could have worked, but its not going to make a blind of difference either way.
The way I see it - the cut backs the smaller scheduals etc its just all good buisness sense in whats predicted to be a very rough 12 months. Perhaps GSM should focus more on Glasgow and Aberdeen in the next few years and really dominate the market there.
Its not over yet and theres everything to play for with many gaps in the market left behind when other carriers have gone belly up.
I was recently going to book for Malaga, but what put me off - It wasn't the flights or their cost - and infact GSM were cheaper than any competitor, it was the weather.
These places arn't great over the winter and the load will significantly reduce, this is where, in my eyes, GSM are doing it wrong. Malaga, Alicante and Faro along with the similar destinations should stop over the winter - maybe a flight here or there - and more Winter sun hot spots should have been created.
They introduced Sharm from Glasgow, surley they could have introduced Hurghada from Edinburgh or try Sharm again from ABZ?
Fuertaventura - Was also trying to book this recently, absolutley no flights and I know there is demand.
Follow Thomson's example and try Barbados over the winter - cruise session.
Cape Verde is becoming a holiday hot spot - but might be out of the NG's range from GLA or EDI, and I can only go on load factors from down south - don't know how well it might work up here.
Finally, Canadian Routes over winter! - Yet to see this happen.
Of course what's the point in posting this here, we can sit and argue and say yes that could have worked, but its not going to make a blind of difference either way.
The way I see it - the cut backs the smaller scheduals etc its just all good buisness sense in whats predicted to be a very rough 12 months. Perhaps GSM should focus more on Glasgow and Aberdeen in the next few years and really dominate the market there.
Its not over yet and theres everything to play for with many gaps in the market left behind when other carriers have gone belly up.
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Are GSM still doing the EDI TCX flights for summer 10? Are these just in the normal scheduled flights or will these be seperate charter flights?
As gd44 says i am suprised HRG and additional rotations to hotspots haven't been introduced for winter
As to summer maybe GSM should try new routes from EDI not covered
Increased Canary flights a must, but more Greek destinations, both main land and Islands. Possibly even Bulgaria.
Think GSM could make a twice weekly flight work between GLA/YHM and EDI/YHM, if it were to operate direct year round
As gd44 says i am suprised HRG and additional rotations to hotspots haven't been introduced for winter
As to summer maybe GSM should try new routes from EDI not covered
Increased Canary flights a must, but more Greek destinations, both main land and Islands. Possibly even Bulgaria.
Think GSM could make a twice weekly flight work between GLA/YHM and EDI/YHM, if it were to operate direct year round
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Little Blue ..You have got it right!
Dreamliners -Where are they?
we were told 3 years ago, 2 years then 1 year.
All that has happened is the fleet has been sold with NO replacements belonging to GSM.
More like TD Dreaming than Dreamliners.
Well the Nightmare is about to start..happy halloween
If all we are hearing is true, boy oh boy .we need Ryanair into GLA quickly .
Why has there been no official statement by TD or RG about state of play.
I keep getting messages to stop certain postings.
This is a forum to pass information between us all to keep us updated the best we can.It is never intended in anyway to scare monger of offend anyone.
We all have bills to pay!
DD
Dreamliners -Where are they?
we were told 3 years ago, 2 years then 1 year.
All that has happened is the fleet has been sold with NO replacements belonging to GSM.
More like TD Dreaming than Dreamliners.
Well the Nightmare is about to start..happy halloween
If all we are hearing is true, boy oh boy .we need Ryanair into GLA quickly .
Why has there been no official statement by TD or RG about state of play.
I keep getting messages to stop certain postings.
This is a forum to pass information between us all to keep us updated the best we can.It is never intended in anyway to scare monger of offend anyone.
We all have bills to pay!
DD
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This is a forum to pass information between us all to keep us updated the best we can.It is never intended in anyway to scare monger of offend anyone.
Dreamliner hasn't even entered flight testing yet, its no fault of GSM's that there is a delay, its Boeings. Your last post proves that what you say is one lot of
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Oh dear here we go again.
Point being;
No aircraft of any type added
GSM have only sold aircraft over the last 3 years.
Asset stripping of fleet.Where is the security in that.
gd44 -not even worth an answer- Were you on Question time last night?
CD thank you for email, yes I agree there are some nervious people out there.c u Tuesday. whens pay day.
DD
No aircraft of any type added
GSM have only sold aircraft over the last 3 years.
Asset stripping of fleet.Where is the security in that.
gd44 -not even worth an answer- Were you on Question time last night?
CD thank you for email, yes I agree there are some nervious people out there.c u Tuesday. whens pay day.
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Well, Simon, I happen to work for GSM. I am not nervous in the slightest.
And neither are any of my colleagues. We see the work coming in. You, sir, certainly do not. And you tend to do some of your worst stirring over on the JET2 site as well.
What is your agenda, exactly?
You and DD are doing your best to create problems where there aren't any.
Kindly leave this forum to those who actually know what they are talking about.
And neither are any of my colleagues. We see the work coming in. You, sir, certainly do not. And you tend to do some of your worst stirring over on the JET2 site as well.
What is your agenda, exactly?
You and DD are doing your best to create problems where there aren't any.
Kindly leave this forum to those who actually know what they are talking about.