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Old 23rd Mar 2008, 12:35
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LOU Thanks for that further information, I certainly accept both of your points. I was not aware of the 'Regency' service.

With Open Skies and the established success in the past ten years of 'PrivatAir' operations and the the LCCs at the other end, no carrier can be sure of the future. Add in the fuel cost and the way the Western economies are falling off a cliff ...
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Old 24th Mar 2008, 09:38
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Notice that from 1 April, the second daily EWR has a later departure from LTN, 1800 instead of 1645, which must be an improvement for business pax using the service. Dep from EWR will now be at 2230, arr LTN 1040. The first daily remains as before.
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Old 24th Mar 2008, 11:25
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Sounds like excellent news, the later departure time means that ex US has a full day in the office in London (arrive 7am, depart 6pm). I think they could have also changed the departure on this to fit into a new timetable for the extra aircraft which are arrving soon. I would imagine slots midday (arrive @ 1100-1200, depart 1500 - to unknown US destination / arrive @ 1600-1700, depart 2200-2300 to unknown Arabian/Indian destination). Would mean that there would be a maximum of 2/3 aircraft on the ground at any one time.
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Old 24th Mar 2008, 15:49
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possibility of a second DXB flight once the fourth a/c arrives as it would seem like building up on frequencies is a wiser option than going barmy and expanding all over the place?

or is DXB not performing enough for capacity increase ?
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Old 24th Mar 2008, 16:32
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Personally I think that is the best option.

Maxjet launched too many destinations all at once. It is better to get your name known in three cities and build from there surely?
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Old 24th Mar 2008, 17:08
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Did Maxjet not fly to 3 cities!!
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Old 24th Mar 2008, 17:52
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Flew with SJ to EWR last week for the 4th time.Excellent as before, although I look forward to the new lounge at EWR. Cabin crew told me that they would be starting LAX in July. That would be great for me. I also understood that they are going to make some changes to the interior. I hope that one of them is to the IFE, as I don't know what to do with my screen while I am eating. Otherwise, I think their product is superb and value for money is very good too. It really is a delight to travel out of Luton compared with LHR or LGW, even though I have a train journey from mid Sussex to get there.
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Old 24th Mar 2008, 18:42
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Maxjet flew to:

London
New York
Washington
Los Angeles
Las Vegas

Yes, it is two more destinations but when you are up against the world's largest carriers from the world's largest hub you have to start small and then grow.

In my opinion they grew too quick.
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 14:41
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Another sweak to shedules

Notice that from 1 April, the second daily EWR has a later departure from LTN, 1800 instead of 1645, which must be an improvement for business pax using the service. Dep from EWR will now be at 2230, arr LTN 1040. The first daily remains as before.
And I see the airline’s Dubai flight schedule will also change from 30 March. Flight 253 will leave Luton at 2155 (currently 2100) and will land at 0830 in Dubai. It will return from Dubai at 1030 and arrive in Luton at 1545 (currently 1445).
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 15:20
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Silverjet

I think you will find that two new destinations will be announced shortly one on the West Coast of the United States and one in Southern Africa. Unfortunately my lips are sealed as to the actual airports concerned.
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 19:03
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I will believe it when I see it. I just cant see a JNB/CPT route work, Los Angeles? - Not a big enough market. Chicago/Miami/Houston would have been far better and able to utilise a daily flight with one aircraft.
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 19:28
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The other thing with JNB/CPT is that all the current BA, Virgin and South African flights from London operate overnight, which means an aircraft sitting on the ground at each end for the whole day. I can't see how Silverjet could do this given limited aircraft, so one leg would have to be during the day. Pro - no other airline offers a day flight. Con - surely business passengers prefer the overnight? A tricky one.

It seems like they have taken a long time to think about the next routes given how important they will be. Also, as soon as they announce future routes they can start taking bookings and cash. The time between route announcement and the first flight is a period of strong cash generation.

I await these new routes with anticipation!
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 20:05
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They will have a major issue with anything to JNB or CPT given the current UK/South Africa bilateral. The arrangements allow for more services from regional airports to regional airports, but not from primary airports to primary airports or regional airports (as one could argue Luton is) to primary airports like JNB or CPT. You can only hope that someone has done their homework on this one. That's allegedly why Globespan ended up pulling out - MAN-CPT was not seen as a regional/regional by the South Africans.

I also heard that there was a huge row going on between the CEO and the Reuben brothers as to whether they should take the next aircraft at all. The Reubens apparently thought that the airline shouldn't take delivery as they couldn't fill the three aircraft they already had. The esteemed CEO thought that they should as he'd already paid out so much in deposits and reconfiguration costs that they might as well. Dangerous game with fuel at $100 / barrel.

Don't suppose there's any chance of Silverjet looking at Vegas? Maxjet were apparently doing quite well there. Then again this would need Silverjet to accept that they get high-end leisure traffic instead of low-end business class traffic, which might hit their corporate ego. Closer to the truth though.
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 20:25
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"It seems like they have taken a long time to think about the next routes given how important they will be. Also, as soon as they announce future routes they can start taking bookings and cash."

But are they legally entitled to spend the money, before sectors have been flown ? please correct me if im wrong ?

Thanks
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 20:49
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Don't think you can legally stop them from using the money however I would think that their bank will make them escrow the revenue until the flight actually flies as protection against misuse of funds. I know of a couple of airlines who are made to operate in this way.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 15:17
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Do they have the new planes?

I think they now have the new planes in their hands. Does anyone know where they are and when we can see them earning money?

It will be another step change in Silverjet. I guess the route will be announced with pax figs next week
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 16:18
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look guys good things come to those who wait thats all im saying. So STOP youre idle speculation and be patient.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 18:35
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While in manchester i was talking to a silverjet crew member last week
They said the new route from july i think is LA
They also said they were ordering 787;s
Then another new route in 3 weeks.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 20:20
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 00:36
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"Southern Africa"??? Might be Windhoek (Namibia) and offer onward connections? But this would then become a leisure route, not least with the need to do one leg in daylight. SABENA used to do that BRU~JNB but it was via KIN and was a full 3-class ship (743 IIRC).

Getting a route to South Africa would be unusual. For biz - it has to be JNB and I VERY much doubt that they would get a license from the South Africans.
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