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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:01
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A lesson for UK project management. They should have brought the chaps in from somewhere like Schiphol to show them how to do the job properly. No worries, the polite and compliant British travelling public will moan and groan and do absolutely nothing about it!
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:08
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OK were's the T5 staff input here

Lets get some real time input from the operational folks. both BAA & Imperial, to todays performance. The hands-on, grass roots day-to-day operational folks can only give us all (industry/SLF) the tru griff where the mega snags occurred.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:12
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Aren't they all on the ground trying to sort out the mess??
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:14
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Jobs for the boys

And this means the wrong boys with the right handshake get the right jobs and this is what happens end of story.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:15
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It's official - Simon Caldwell has just told Willie Walsh "You had your chance and you muffed it!"
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:15
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This is what happens when companies (BAA and BA ) know the price of everything and the value of nothing. I'm still gobsmacked at the rumour of a 14 million quid shortcut BA are paying to BAA to compensate BAA for a drop in Duty Free sales. Kind of sums up both companies priorities if true.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:27
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I travel frequently from US to middle East and back- I gave our travel service two rules- Do not book me on BA and do not route me thru London. If either shows up on my ittinerary, I don't go. Adding more chaos with an addition terminal of lousey service can't help anything!
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:33
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Lets hope BAA have nowt to do with the olympics, What a bunch of muppets running UK plc.... funniest thing on tv tonight, BA telling pax they can only travel with hand baggage, got a m8 going to australia in morning for month, with hand baggage??????
I'm not in favour of nationalistion, but surely somethings should be run by Govt agencies, may not be any better but at least you could find someone to blame.... ~Heathrow may be a love hate relationship for people, but an airport of this importance to UK should not be left to a bunch of numpties to make an utter shamles of...
There should be inquiries into this and people held responsible, You can't blame a computer all the time, its only as good as the person using it.!!
And BA should be stripped of its name, Doesnt deserve to be called 'British'.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:37
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I'm not in favour of nationalistion, but surely somethings should be run by Govt agencies, may not be any better but at least you could find someone to blame...
Just like the Millenium Dome huh?
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:39
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Gobonastick - that's a bit harsh on our muppet friends don't you think...? At least they are successful in what they aim to do - i.e. to make us laugh!!! The other lot wanna make me weep........
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:45
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An ex-girlfriend of mine ran a computer company, and hoping for big business attended a meeting re.Terminal 5 a few years ago.

One of the other computer whizzes there had fair hair dyed in black streaks, and all his teeth filed into triangular shark-like points !

If that's the sort of person behind the scenes ( as sounds very likely judging by today ) I'll avoid sniffing anything like talcolm powder in the Gents', & go by my boat, thanks !

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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:49
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I've warned everyone I know who has been thinking of flying from LHR to stay the hell away from BA from the third week of March for at least a month.

It was bound to be an almighty cock-up.

And guess what ... it is!

Listening to the story on the news while driving home this evening I almost caused an accident because I was laughing so hard.

Can there be two more incompetent companies than BA and the BAA?

World's favourite airline?????
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 21:57
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Just been chatting with my buddy who's BAA I.T.

Evidently he reckons there's nothing wrong with the baggage system per se, but there is an issue with training here and there - few guys causing big problems hitting the wrong button at the wrong time, but more pertinently, all the dry runs & tryouts are as nothing when compared with a big, networked multi node system gone live -

As they used to say at the Apollo program, it's not the scenarios you foresee...
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 22:01
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Heading for Europe?......There is a very competent lot that operate out of Portsmouth. No baggage restrictions, take as much as you want and they operate to time......They are called Brittany Ferries
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 22:03
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Heh a "National Disgrace" according to the main headline story on News At Ten.

The footage of the guy trapped in the lift, and the reporters running after the fleeing spokesperson, are classics.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 22:05
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Originally Posted by GobonaStick
People are talking on here like it's the first time this has happened anywhere.

I was in HK the day Chek Lap Kok opened. It was the same - everything fine until a couple of hours in, then steady descent into chaos.
The transfer of flights from Linate to Malpensa wasn't all that clever either if I recall correctly...must be an airport jinx.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 22:07
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Beijing Terminal 3

I haven't heard any poor reports of Beijing Terminal 3 yet?
Is this because it's working well or because of reporting restrictions?
BA have really shown their true colours today, but how long will the public remember for; No doubt it will be spun out of sight.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 22:08
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As they used to say at the Apollo program, it's not the scenarios you foresee...
I'm not quite sure how you can compare Rocket Science with getting bags from the shopping mall, sorry, Terminal onto the plane. There is surely only one scenario which has been going at LHR for years.

Flying to the moon in the sixties, sure I could accept some unforeseen scenarios
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 22:11
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Originally Posted by amanoffewwords
The transfer of flights from Linate to Malpensa wasn't all that clever either if I recall correctly...must be an airport jinx.
Just because other places have had problems on their first day doesn't give BA/BAA an excuse to fail as well.

The experiences of the previous airports should have been taken as warning signs and opportunities for lessons learnt, not targets.
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Old 27th Mar 2008, 22:12
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I haven't heard any poor reports of Beijing Terminal 3 yet?
Have you seen how they treat the Tibet protestors? Would be a brave main who complained about PEK T3!
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