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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 17:03
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Cracking BRS operation again today. Check-in staffed with college students no idea how it all should work. Called up for boarding before the cleaners had even got on.
But the check-in staff wouldn't work for FGS anyway. And having the passengers lined up ready to board would help to catch up a little on that delay they had...
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 17:33
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Jimmy, you made me laugh when you addressed the 'New Engineers' to take note and get the A/C washed. These 'New' bods simply don't have a clue what they are doing and half of them don't even give a t*ss about getting them washed anyway.

There is a lot of angry people in Colinton house after the recent rounds of dismissals and what makes me annoyed that there seems to be a finger pointing at the 'Old' lot saying "all these engineering issues are because of them" Truth is it was not because of them but rather that they were on their own with no backup or support!

TD has made a big mistake with this and it's now quite obvious that those who are in charge now are creating jobs for the boys, eh?

Let's just see how long it takes for Operations and Crewing to move to MAN also.
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Old 3rd Jun 2008, 11:23
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Totally agree with Beagh the new people are definately making "jobs for the boys" all the expenditure of these new people is shocking we definately needed some more but this is frankly ridiculous re-wrting the entire ETOPS manual when we already had an approved version anyway!! and not only that with all these people we could still not get back the full ETOPS remember MK got the entire programme back by himself in October, also strange that Man was the chosen destination, after all the new ones all come from where? you guessed it Manchester, when TD thinks off this he must realise he has been truely shaft#d. He might start to realise that he had at Colinton a very good engineering setup that backed the airline to the hilt sure we needed a few more bods, and if only MK had been backed up a quarter of which CH now has we would have been in great shape, how do I know? I was one of those old staff that was shown the door last tuesday afternoon, bitter? no disappointed oh yes.FGS are no longer a Scottish airline it does not matter which way you look at it. I do hope everything goes well for them and it was a priviledge working for them but time to move on.
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Never knew GSM planned to Lease a 733 or is this an out of the blue thing? Not with them for very long 22 May-22 August. Anybody know the route its operating? Is it in GSM colours, doubt it but anybody know?

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Old 4th Jun 2008, 16:33
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Will be out of EDI as that is where F-GZTB is operating mail flights out of. Will need to be back in EDI for 2100 as it goes to EMA shortly after that.
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What's the latest on the a/c that was reportedly sat in hangar at Liverpool all winter?
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Old 4th Jun 2008, 18:01
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All 600s are now operating flights - 1 B736 is based GLA operating W pattern BCN and 1 B736 based EDI.
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Old 4th Jun 2008, 18:46
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Does anybody know how long GSM is hedged on fuel?

Is it looking as if GSM are going to get a massive fine on July the 2nd in court?
If so add on a 13m loss last year and if they haven't hedged well then could put GSM in financial red zone! Better hope long-haul goes ok aswell becuase it would be worse if there having to offer vouchers,free drink or even refunds like S07.
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Why on earth are GSM thowing their money away in poor advertising? Their reputation in the Liverpool area is worse than Gordon Brown due to their appalling mess last year when they because a laughing stock. They were headlines almost every week for all the wrong reasons. It would require a massive amount of PR and several years grace or better still a name change to recover in the area.

Therefore everyone is now bemused (and some shocked) that they are advertising in the Region. Surely GSM must realise this and not try to flog a dead horse? Its complacency beyond belief.

They should keep their advertising budget to areas where they have at least some reputation intact.
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Old 4th Jun 2008, 21:44
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Better hope long-haul goes ok aswell becuase it would be worse if there having to offer vouchers,free drink or even refunds like S07.
A quick analysis on the delays on CDPT over the weekend:

201 booked passengers delayed 21h 22m
180 booked passengers delayed 19h 25m
220 booked passengers delayed 20h 40m
243 booked passengers delayed 17h 56m

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SFB will catch up tomorrow, with the B763 not scheduled to operate again until Tues.
Well, nearly, the SFB would have caught up due to non-op but the delays did hit the 941 MAN-DUB-YVR which was delayed in excess of 2 hours on Monday (and lost time enroute) and affected 221 booked passengers.

Let's not forget CEOD:

142 booked passengers delayed 9h 25m
201 booked passengers delayed 10h 30m
216 booked passengers delayed 8h50m...................................................

and not an Icelandic aircraft in sight!!

Apparently Colinton House now operates a no blame culture, whose fault is that Tom?
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Old 5th Jun 2008, 12:07
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Can someone explain to me why GSM have so many bad delays this year and last at EDI ? I must admit to being worried about flying with them , not normally bothered about being in the air . Seems to occur mainly with smaller 737s . Also read that CAA are starting to become concerned at state of play and might call for a fleet inspection , would this involve grounding everything for a day or what ??
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Old 5th Jun 2008, 17:41
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any update on the 763 ACMI work for winter? Is the oman air work confirmed yet?
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hmm this year having there own 763's hasn't made a difference then. Even worse for SFB which Neos operated pretty well last year. SFB goes daily soon should be interesting.

I think problems from EDI are mainly routed to lack of a/c the 738 destined for EDI has been leased to Oman Air leaving EDI with 3 a/c when there should be 4 though GSM have now leased a 733 bringing it back to 4 so should get back on course and im saying should, never goes simple for GSM.
I hope they sort themselves out though without GSM Scotland would be lost. Losing routes no other carrier was prepared to launch. Slightly worried though this court date with the fine isn't going to help much. Are GSM close to going bust or are they pretty secure because of the Globespan Group?

Nobody got any clue if GSM are hedged on fuel?

Why is there no departures to and from YHM on a friday?

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Old 5th Jun 2008, 19:01
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YHM A/C has down time on Friday. Flight in from EDI comes in 2.30pm Thursday and next flight to depart is the flight to GLA on Friday night at 9.30pm.

GSM have hedged their fuel for at least this Summer if not for W08 too. GSM is in good position for the future.

The B733 is only leased in to operate the IBZ flight from both GLA and EDI.
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Old 5th Jun 2008, 21:31
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sounds sooooooo bad for GSM..... My father is flying with them in July to SFB and I have warned him that a delay is almost certainly on the cards!

I am slightly aware of this court case that is on the horizon but when exactly is it and what is the likely time span of the court case???

Many thanks for your insight
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Old 5th Jun 2008, 21:50
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GSM...

Why oh why do people book with them? Its blatantly obvious to everyone that they are struggling on a good day, nevermind on a bad one.

They started out with a great product, and service. Their crews are brilliant to this day, and I admire them for hanging around this long but how much longer can this 'award winning airline' carry on? They seem to go from one disaster to another - and another...

Of course, its everyone elses fault - Yeah right...

Maybe the CAA (Campaign Against Aviation) might just impose fines, penalties or even an injunction on GSM and then what...

Time will tell
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Old 5th Jun 2008, 22:06
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Maybe the CAA (Campaign Against Aviation) might just impose fines, penalties or even an injunction on GSM and then what...
The floodgates are going to open with all the "where there's blame...there's a claim" civil cases.....that's what !!
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Old 6th Jun 2008, 08:24
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I doubt very much that the CAA will be too heavy on them, whilst the breach is serious, if it was a top to bottom problem they would have pulled their AOC rather than just the ETOPS approval

Fine? less than £250,000.00 would be my guess, no point making it £m's that would just make it more difficult for them to put things right, which is what the CAA will want
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Old 6th Jun 2008, 08:38
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Originally Posted by Facelookbovvered
Fine? less than £250,000.00 would be my guess, no point making it £m's that would just make it more difficult for them to put things right, which is what the CAA will want
I don't think the fine is significant, I have doubts that GSM will be around to take delivery of the 787. Fine them a penny, or a million, the end result is the same.

I would have thought that the airline would have already had to put things right, if they have got their ETOPS ticket back. Maybe I've missed something.
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I am sure that things in terms of engineering/quality audits are going in the right direction, but it all takes time, you have to get the right people in the right place and changed what are often emmbeded attitudes. I think that even companies the size of bmi use the likes of Monarch for all their ETOPS stuff?
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