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Flying club...
A few people we've spoken to have tried to buy the ''trial flights'' they normally sell over Christmas ( and normally promote heavily in the media - not this year though ???) but can't get any response. Bad news if they are still open - very bad if they've gone belly-hup.
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No i feel its bad news and they have stop flying. A source told me that they were in financial difficulties and were currently trying to get back and going. Also I was meant to have my solo soon which has not been put on hold 
. But somebody will take over...don' worry....remeber Cardiff Flying Club.
. But somebody will take over...don' worry....remeber Cardiff Flying Club.
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FLYBE
Front page of today's S.W Echo carries the story of a recent FLYBE flight having to return to CWL on appraoch to CDG because the Captain was not qualified to land the aircraft in such limited visibility (fog).
Any one got the actual facts as I am sure the press have sensationalised the story as usual?!
Any one got the actual facts as I am sure the press have sensationalised the story as usual?!
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"He has relatively recently transferred his 'type-rating' from a Bombardier Q300 to a Bombardier Q400 and has not yet completed the requisite low-visibility training to complete a landing in conditions such as the dense fog experienced in Paris Charles de Gaulle," she said.
"The captain therefore quite correctly turned the aircraft around and returned to Cardiff; a decision which the company stands by 100%.
"The captain therefore quite correctly turned the aircraft around and returned to Cardiff; a decision which the company stands by 100%.
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Similar thing happened 2-3 weeks ago when a JER-MAN diverted into CWL after attempting MAN and LPL.
Can't say it's a rare thing especially with Flybe having so many new aircraft and transferring FD from the 145.
After reading the article, a found that it was very unfortunate as the flight was allready delayed due to bad visibility at CWL. Added with the poor visibility of CDG then return to CWL it is understandable that people were annoyed by this event. It is unfortunate that weather was poor in both destinations causing such a heavy delay and inconvenience to the passengers. However i applaud the captains announcement who informed them of what was going on and the reason. (This is much better than holding above CDG then diverting to alternate after 45 mins - hour (even more possibly if tankered fuel for return).
There is another option of diverting to the nearest diversion airport to CDG (unless they were currently below or close to minimums).
Article can be found here
Can't say it's a rare thing especially with Flybe having so many new aircraft and transferring FD from the 145.
After reading the article, a found that it was very unfortunate as the flight was allready delayed due to bad visibility at CWL. Added with the poor visibility of CDG then return to CWL it is understandable that people were annoyed by this event. It is unfortunate that weather was poor in both destinations causing such a heavy delay and inconvenience to the passengers. However i applaud the captains announcement who informed them of what was going on and the reason. (This is much better than holding above CDG then diverting to alternate after 45 mins - hour (even more possibly if tankered fuel for return).
There is another option of diverting to the nearest diversion airport to CDG (unless they were currently below or close to minimums).
Article can be found here
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Recentally published on Aer Lingus Website... Charters I think
From Cardiff(CWL) to Dublin(DUB)
Flight Depart Arrive Days of Service Valid From Valid To
EI2283 1245 1345 - - - - F S S 20-Mar-09 22-Mar-2009
EI2289 2220 2320 - - - - - S - 21-Mar-09 21-Mar-2009
EI2291 2250 2350 - - - T - - - 19-Mar-09 19-Mar 2009
From Dublin(DUB) to Cardiff(CWL)
Flight Depart Arrive Days of Service Valid From Valid To
EI2282 1030 1130 - - - - F S S 20-Mar-09 22-Mar-2009
EI2288 2040 2140 - - - - - S - 21-Mar-09 21-Mar-2009
EI2290 2110 2210 - - - T - - - 19-Mar-09 19-Mar 2009
Flight Depart Arrive Days of Service Valid From Valid To
EI2283 1245 1345 - - - - F S S 20-Mar-09 22-Mar-2009
EI2289 2220 2320 - - - - - S - 21-Mar-09 21-Mar-2009
EI2291 2250 2350 - - - T - - - 19-Mar-09 19-Mar 2009
From Dublin(DUB) to Cardiff(CWL)
Flight Depart Arrive Days of Service Valid From Valid To
EI2282 1030 1130 - - - - F S S 20-Mar-09 22-Mar-2009
EI2288 2040 2140 - - - - - S - 21-Mar-09 21-Mar-2009
EI2290 2110 2210 - - - T - - - 19-Mar-09 19-Mar 2009
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Couple of points, mathers:
Better for who? The pax who are now on the wrong bit of dry land instead of being on the ground at ORY and making their way to the Metro?
So you think that diverting to ORY or beauvais from the hold near CDG would use less fuel than getting back to CWL? Bear in mind on that return leg the aircraft would fly near enough to Southampton, Gatwick, Bournemouth, Jersey, Bristol and any other number of airports which Flybe don't have bases at.
Fuel had nothing to do with it. Company order for operational convenience, stuff the passengers.
However i applaud the captains announcement who informed them of what was going on and the reason. (This is much better than holding above CDG then diverting to alternate after 45 mins - hour (even more possibly if tankered fuel for return).
There is another option of diverting to the nearest diversion airport to CDG (unless they were currently below or close to minimums).
Fuel had nothing to do with it. Company order for operational convenience, stuff the passengers.
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If the Captain had decided to tanker the fuel then the aircraft would have enough fuel for CWL-CDG-CWL and extra.
As you could imagine the amount of available holding fuel on board in such case could be anything up to 2 hours. Could you imagine at that stage weather still not improved and having to divert to another field? Then await for coach transfer to CDG.
I never meant that lack of fuel would have been the issue, what i was trying to say is that Flybe do usually tanker and was saying worst case scenario of how long to have the aircraft in the hold then diverting.
We do not know however the weather conditions at the alternates.
I would say if you have to divert back to the uk then Cardiff would have been the best option as that's where they vehicles were etc. And for the record Cardiff doesn't have a Flybe base or even engineering services at CWL.
As you could imagine the amount of available holding fuel on board in such case could be anything up to 2 hours. Could you imagine at that stage weather still not improved and having to divert to another field? Then await for coach transfer to CDG.
I never meant that lack of fuel would have been the issue, what i was trying to say is that Flybe do usually tanker and was saying worst case scenario of how long to have the aircraft in the hold then diverting.
We do not know however the weather conditions at the alternates.
I would say if you have to divert back to the uk then Cardiff would have been the best option as that's where they vehicles were etc. And for the record Cardiff doesn't have a Flybe base or even engineering services at CWL.
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The reason Flybe went back to Cardiff is because there was no way the a/c would be able to land at Paris.
I personally would have returned to CWL as there would have been people onboard who may have wanted to cancel and just go home. They could not hop in a taxi and get back to their front door if they were stuck waiting ages for a coach at ORY now....I am sure there were many diversions and am confident that it would have taken a fair amount of time to get road transfers organised.
Despite the journalism on the BBC website and the lack of factual information from the journalist, Flybe did do a good job with this one. Even passengers were informed and rebooked onto the next flight that day. I am not saying it was not at all inconvenient and quite rightly there were probably a few peeved off people but really it was the better decision to make
I personally would have returned to CWL as there would have been people onboard who may have wanted to cancel and just go home. They could not hop in a taxi and get back to their front door if they were stuck waiting ages for a coach at ORY now....I am sure there were many diversions and am confident that it would have taken a fair amount of time to get road transfers organised.
Despite the journalism on the BBC website and the lack of factual information from the journalist, Flybe did do a good job with this one. Even passengers were informed and rebooked onto the next flight that day. I am not saying it was not at all inconvenient and quite rightly there were probably a few peeved off people but really it was the better decision to make
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New Route
BmiBaby to launch Cardiff-Mahon on 21 May 2009.
Flight operate on Thursdays and Sundays and looks like it will replace the Lisbon route which has been axed. The new service will operate from 21 May to 22 October 2009.
Flight operate on Thursdays and Sundays and looks like it will replace the Lisbon route which has been axed. The new service will operate from 21 May to 22 October 2009.
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Bmibaby:cwl-mah
Odd how they have announced the axing of certain other S09 flights without mentioning the CWL-LIS one? Its just disappeared off the booking engine with the MAH there instead!
It makes you laugh when they promote it as a new route when it is just replacing an axed one! However I suppose we should be lucky Baby are still at CWL....
It makes you laugh when they promote it as a new route when it is just replacing an axed one! However I suppose we should be lucky Baby are still at CWL....
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Flybe And Fog At Cdg
The pilot acted perfectly correctly regarding aircraft safety. His mistake was to
publically announce to the Pax that he was not qualified to land the aircraft in low visibility conditions.
However lets look on the bright side and think of all the free publicity CWL and FlyBe have had as a result.
publically announce to the Pax that he was not qualified to land the aircraft in low visibility conditions.
However lets look on the bright side and think of all the free publicity CWL and FlyBe have had as a result.
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FlyBe...CDG...
Agree captain did right in not landing etc .... but Joe Public are going to think twice before booking FlyBe ???? All publicity is good publicity.... NOT in this case, surely ? Hope this doesn't reflect badly on CWL as I'm sure it will in publics' eyes and expectations ? CWL / FlyBe should make a statement explaining what the exact situation was here to aleviate already heightened anxieties as portrayed in the national press who carried this today.
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bmibaby announce new service from Cardiff International Airport
Flights to Menorca commence 21 May 2009
Cardiff International Airport’s largest low cost airline, bmibaby, has announced a new service to Menorca. The new service will operate from 21 May to 22 October 2009, on Thursdays and Sundays.
Menorca is a destination that will appeal to a wide range of travellers looking for a summer escape.
Menorca is currently not served by any other low cost airline from Cardiff International Airport, so by launching this new service bmibaby is offering customers a unique summer destination at fantastically low fares.
The island of Menorca is a beautiful destination with lots to do and with its typically sunny Mediterranean climate it is the perfect getaway for a weekend break or a family holiday.
Flights to Menorca commence 21 May 2009
Cardiff International Airport’s largest low cost airline, bmibaby, has announced a new service to Menorca. The new service will operate from 21 May to 22 October 2009, on Thursdays and Sundays.
Menorca is a destination that will appeal to a wide range of travellers looking for a summer escape.
Menorca is currently not served by any other low cost airline from Cardiff International Airport, so by launching this new service bmibaby is offering customers a unique summer destination at fantastically low fares.
The island of Menorca is a beautiful destination with lots to do and with its typically sunny Mediterranean climate it is the perfect getaway for a weekend break or a family holiday.
Is there really that much demand for MAH? Whilst not exactly lo-cost, TCX and TOM already operate MAH.
I guess LIS just didnt live up to advanced expectations. Cant WW bring anything new to CWL and make it work?
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Yesterdays Chambery still hasn't returned due to weather there yesterday.
CWL a/c W patterns into BRS. Caused a major headache for most flights operating into CMF yesterday.
TCX a/c probably required in BRS.
WW just running a little late!
CWL a/c W patterns into BRS. Caused a major headache for most flights operating into CMF yesterday.
TCX a/c probably required in BRS.
WW just running a little late!
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Looks like problem with MIR a/c, as G-FTDF is positioning empty to CWL this evening from MIR to cover tomorrows LPA.
Guess tech probs in MIR, so i/b pax sent on the STN a/c instead and diverted CWL a/c operated outbound flight to MIR. MIR being a W pattern by looks of it anyway.
TCX tend to divert/re route aircraft when required to save their schedules, not great for some pax, but beneficial to those pax stranded somewhere!
Not a regular occurrance, but have heard of it happening a few times through the summer.
Guess tech probs in MIR, so i/b pax sent on the STN a/c instead and diverted CWL a/c operated outbound flight to MIR. MIR being a W pattern by looks of it anyway.
TCX tend to divert/re route aircraft when required to save their schedules, not great for some pax, but beneficial to those pax stranded somewhere!
Not a regular occurrance, but have heard of it happening a few times through the summer.