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Last summer the presence of so many non-based aircraft operating routes seemed to spread the arrivals/departures load a bit more evenly throughout the day.
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Yes, I did. I should have worded it more precisely.
As you are aware, last summer the non-BRS based FR aircraft operated more flights each day/week than the BRS-based ones meaning that many FR arrivals and departures were occurring at relatively quiet times for the airport generally.
As you point out the FR flights were often in clusters with for example six or seven arriving and then departing during the mid evening on most days at a time when many of the based aircraft of other airlines (notably easyJet) would have been away from the airport in the middle of their final rotations of the day.
I don't make any comment as to the operational efficiency such a situation because I'm not qualified to make a judgement.
I look at it from a passenger's perspective where anything that lessens the quite severe congestion that sometimes occurs at peak times in the departure areas at BRS where there can be up to 30 departures in three hours in the morning peak before 0900 is to be welcomed. The central walkway currently under construction with new pre-boarding zones ought to go some way to making life more pleasant for passengers anyway.
As you are aware, last summer the non-BRS based FR aircraft operated more flights each day/week than the BRS-based ones meaning that many FR arrivals and departures were occurring at relatively quiet times for the airport generally.
As you point out the FR flights were often in clusters with for example six or seven arriving and then departing during the mid evening on most days at a time when many of the based aircraft of other airlines (notably easyJet) would have been away from the airport in the middle of their final rotations of the day.
I don't make any comment as to the operational efficiency such a situation because I'm not qualified to make a judgement.
I look at it from a passenger's perspective where anything that lessens the quite severe congestion that sometimes occurs at peak times in the departure areas at BRS where there can be up to 30 departures in three hours in the morning peak before 0900 is to be welcomed. The central walkway currently under construction with new pre-boarding zones ought to go some way to making life more pleasant for passengers anyway.
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Not to mention the fact that the only deal BRS were prepared to offer FR was for off peak arrivals and departures a situation FR were well placed to take advantage of with 40+ other bases to fly in from. Probably good business all round unless you are an FR pilot or cc wanting to be based in BRS !
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Estonian Airlines
Looks like the Summer '14 Innsbruck Saturday flights will now be using an Estonian Air EMB-170 with 76 seats. Looks like the aircraft will be BHX based as the aircraft on Saturdays will be doing BHX-INN-BRS-INN-BHX.
Below might explain a little why it will be UK based and is taken from: www.ch-aviation.ch (a great news/fleet/schedule website by the way)....
The schedule is below and was released today:
New route: Innsbruck - Bristol Int'l starting May 24, 2014.
OV 8722 _____6_ 24MAY2014 - 20SEP2014 INN 1020 BRS 1130 - E170 Charter Flight
New route: Bristol Int'l - Innsbruck starting May 24, 2014.
OV 8723 _____6_ 24MAY2014 - 20SEP2014 BRS 1205 INN 1455 - E170 Charter Flight
Below might explain a little why it will be UK based and is taken from: www.ch-aviation.ch (a great news/fleet/schedule website by the way)....
15JAN14 - Estonian Air and aircraft charter specialist, Air Charter Service (ACS), have signed an agreement in which ACS will exclusively market and sell one of Estonian Air's four EMB-170s. ACS Commercial Jets Director, Matt Purton, explained: "With a capacity of 76 seats and a range of around 3 hours, we feel that the aircraft is very versatile and will be ideal for sports teams, Oil and Gas clients and the MICE industry. The aircraft is in an all economy plus configuration, with 31 pitch seats in a two by two configuration."
Mikael Wangdahl, the COO of Estonian Air, commented that his airline sees strong market potential for the aircraft in the British market where demand has been driven by Tour Operators looking for niche routes from regional airports to Mediterranean countries in particular.
Mikael Wangdahl, the COO of Estonian Air, commented that his airline sees strong market potential for the aircraft in the British market where demand has been driven by Tour Operators looking for niche routes from regional airports to Mediterranean countries in particular.
New route: Innsbruck - Bristol Int'l starting May 24, 2014.
OV 8722 _____6_ 24MAY2014 - 20SEP2014 INN 1020 BRS 1130 - E170 Charter Flight
New route: Bristol Int'l - Innsbruck starting May 24, 2014.
OV 8723 _____6_ 24MAY2014 - 20SEP2014 BRS 1205 INN 1455 - E170 Charter Flight
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I am flying on the Saturday BRS - INN in June. I received a confirmation invoice from Inghams with the original flight details with Austria airlines, 0915 departure with a 0835 arrival on the return. Has this flight been replaced with Estonian airlines? Thanks
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This is likely due to strong winds. It is preference to park aircraft with nose into the wind to minimise any potential damage.
If there is not enough stands to provide this especially for aircraft that is on the ground for a long period then the airport authorities and ground handling agents will deviate from normal parking positions on stands.
They will still need to be towed off stand especially if there is no jet blast screens to prevent any damage to equipment, buildings or injuring ground staff/passengers.
If there is not enough stands to provide this especially for aircraft that is on the ground for a long period then the airport authorities and ground handling agents will deviate from normal parking positions on stands.
They will still need to be towed off stand especially if there is no jet blast screens to prevent any damage to equipment, buildings or injuring ground staff/passengers.
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bmi regional
This week the airline's marketing director announced a number of initiatives including the abolition of business class tickets that will be replaced by an enhanced all-economy product; a possible change of name to Bmi; an announcement about code share partners in the next couple of weeks.
The airline has a three-pronged strategy with one of the prongs being wider customer groups out of Bristol with a focus on the business traveller (the other two prongs involve Aberdeen and Norway).
The next step would be to ensure 'that Bristol gets more connectivity'. There is also an intention to connect into longer-haul hubs but whether that would involve BRS is not said although the strategy suggests it might well do so. As far as code shares are concerned the marketing director stated that they had 'looked back on some of our former partnerships and tried to rebuild those'.
It seems that a push has already started at BRS. Free parking is offered to those travelling to Frankfurt in March and April and there is an online survey on the BRS website asking business travellers for their views on bmi regional.
Furthermore, the next business travel forum organised by the airport will take place next month at a city centre location where bmi regional representatives will be on hand to answer questions.
Full details are at:Bmi Regional goes all-economy - Business Traveller
The airline has a three-pronged strategy with one of the prongs being wider customer groups out of Bristol with a focus on the business traveller (the other two prongs involve Aberdeen and Norway).
The next step would be to ensure 'that Bristol gets more connectivity'. There is also an intention to connect into longer-haul hubs but whether that would involve BRS is not said although the strategy suggests it might well do so. As far as code shares are concerned the marketing director stated that they had 'looked back on some of our former partnerships and tried to rebuild those'.
It seems that a push has already started at BRS. Free parking is offered to those travelling to Frankfurt in March and April and there is an online survey on the BRS website asking business travellers for their views on bmi regional.
Furthermore, the next business travel forum organised by the airport will take place next month at a city centre location where bmi regional representatives will be on hand to answer questions.
Full details are at:Bmi Regional goes all-economy - Business Traveller
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SN have decided to replace the DH4 leased from BE that is currently used on the BRS-BRU route with a BM ER4 from 30th March.
Brussels Airlines to wet-lease an ERJ-145 from bmi regional in Spring - ch-aviation.com
SN2060 BRS 06:10 BRU 08:35 ER4 x7
SN2056 BRS 11:10 BRU 13:30 ER4 x67
SN2058 BRS 17:25 BRU 19:45 ER4 x6
SN2055 BRU 09:50 BRS 10:15 ER4 x67
SN2057 BRU 16:35 BRS 16:55 ER4 x6
SN2059 BRU 21:05 BRS 21:25 ER4 x6
Brussels Airlines to wet-lease an ERJ-145 from bmi regional in Spring - ch-aviation.com
SN2060 BRS 06:10 BRU 08:35 ER4 x7
SN2056 BRS 11:10 BRU 13:30 ER4 x67
SN2058 BRS 17:25 BRU 19:45 ER4 x6
SN2055 BRU 09:50 BRS 10:15 ER4 x67
SN2057 BRU 16:35 BRS 16:55 ER4 x6
SN2059 BRU 21:05 BRS 21:25 ER4 x6
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That means 30 seats less per flight - is the route a poor performer?
Brussels Airlines BRS-BRU
The summer timetable is now showing the route operated for Brussels Airlines by bmi regional, still 3 x daily on weekdays. Until the last few days it was shown as a SN ARJ.
bmi regional operated the route for SN before Flybe took it over.
Passenger numbers have risen substantially in recent years from 31,250 in 2009 to 49,046 in 2013, an increase of 17% on 2012. It's to be hoped the smaller bmi regional aircraft won't impact negatively on the passenger growth on this route.
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Is that departing and arriving passengers? Assuming that, on the basis of 17 weekly flights in each direction 49046 annual pax mean 28 pax per flight on average. So makes some sense to use a 50 seater.
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BRS-BRU
Average loads throughout the year would certainly be in that area; probably a bit higher because the route traditionally drops one daily rotation in the main summer holiday period.
It's a route of over 20 years' continuous standing, originally by Sabena then by SN Brussels/Brussels Airlines, although there may have been a short hiatus at the time Sabena disappeared.
A decade or so ago it was operated at 4 x daily on weekdays by SN's ARJs/Bae 146s and at one time carried over 100,000 passengers per year.
In recent years the route has been operated for Brussels Airlines by bmi regional, then by Flybe. NCL-BRU was similarly operated but SN pulled that route last March even though it was averaging slightly higher loads than BRS-BRU. I wouldn't have been surprised to see BRS-BRU go the same way, despite its substantial passenger number increases in recent years, so perhaps the yield is better than was the case on NCL-BRU.
BRU is not a huge destination from the UK. A look at the most recent CAA stats shows scheduled routes to BRU from only six UK airports, viz: LHR, MAN, EDI, BHX, BRS and EMA, although bmi regional is to commence NCL-BRU this spring on its own initiative.
As you point out a 50-seater would be more than adequate most of the time but there would have been times last year when some flights carried more than 50 passengers, so the smaller bmi regional aircraft may put a slight brake on continued passenger growth.
It's a route of over 20 years' continuous standing, originally by Sabena then by SN Brussels/Brussels Airlines, although there may have been a short hiatus at the time Sabena disappeared.
A decade or so ago it was operated at 4 x daily on weekdays by SN's ARJs/Bae 146s and at one time carried over 100,000 passengers per year.
In recent years the route has been operated for Brussels Airlines by bmi regional, then by Flybe. NCL-BRU was similarly operated but SN pulled that route last March even though it was averaging slightly higher loads than BRS-BRU. I wouldn't have been surprised to see BRS-BRU go the same way, despite its substantial passenger number increases in recent years, so perhaps the yield is better than was the case on NCL-BRU.
BRU is not a huge destination from the UK. A look at the most recent CAA stats shows scheduled routes to BRU from only six UK airports, viz: LHR, MAN, EDI, BHX, BRS and EMA, although bmi regional is to commence NCL-BRU this spring on its own initiative.
As you point out a 50-seater would be more than adequate most of the time but there would have been times last year when some flights carried more than 50 passengers, so the smaller bmi regional aircraft may put a slight brake on continued passenger growth.
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Inghams summer flights to Innsbruck still shows the flight being operated by
Austrian within their booking engine.
Thanks.
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A few weeks ago in another airport forum a poster who is usually extremely well informed about BRS matters said that Ingham's Saturday Verona flight this coming summer would be operated by a BHX-based Estonian Airlines E170 routing BHX-VRN-BRS-VRN-BHX. The reason was that Inghams wanted more seats than last summer's bmi regional E 145 could provide.
Originally the Inghams website showed bmi regional as their carrier to VRN in summer 2014 but they now show Mistral (which operates this route for Tui from BRS) which suggests they are taking seats on that flight. They used to do so before Tui put on the smaller Mistral B734 to replace the TOM B738 a couple of years ago.
The point is that if the Estonian E170 was going to operate this pattern from BHX via BRS on a w on Sats to VRN could it operate a similar pattern with INN as well? It would be a long day for the aircraft with eight sectors.
However, Inghams are showing its flights to VRN on a TOM aircraft which might suggest that it's true after all that the Estonian E170 will operate BHX-INN-BRS-INN-BHX. The snag in that is that Inghams are still showing Flybe as their BHX carrier to INN.
I think I'll lie down now.
Originally the Inghams website showed bmi regional as their carrier to VRN in summer 2014 but they now show Mistral (which operates this route for Tui from BRS) which suggests they are taking seats on that flight. They used to do so before Tui put on the smaller Mistral B734 to replace the TOM B738 a couple of years ago.
The point is that if the Estonian E170 was going to operate this pattern from BHX via BRS on a w on Sats to VRN could it operate a similar pattern with INN as well? It would be a long day for the aircraft with eight sectors.
However, Inghams are showing its flights to VRN on a TOM aircraft which might suggest that it's true after all that the Estonian E170 will operate BHX-INN-BRS-INN-BHX. The snag in that is that Inghams are still showing Flybe as their BHX carrier to INN.
I think I'll lie down now.
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Hi all,
Quick question for anyone.
As easyJet have now moved to Servisair and Summer '14 looming, who does
Menzies now handle here?
Many thanks,
CT
Quick question for anyone.
As easyJet have now moved to Servisair and Summer '14 looming, who does
Menzies now handle here?
Many thanks,
CT
Last edited by Capt. Tango; 15th Feb 2014 at 22:29. Reason: Didn't say thanks!