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Ryanair
If they are likely to open a base at LBA,why would they consider flying to cities already served by Jet2?.
They fly to cities I can't even pronounce for god's sake,from other UK airports.
Or do we assume that MOL would like to take on Jet2 from what is effectively their home base?.
Any thoughts?
They fly to cities I can't even pronounce for god's sake,from other UK airports.
Or do we assume that MOL would like to take on Jet2 from what is effectively their home base?.
Any thoughts?
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Probably just the little irish **** going for a reaction or trying to prove a point. 
Jet2 operate the Jersey and a few others just to please the airport. I think PM (Jet2 CE) would go ballistic at the airport owners if they let FR in.
LS makes LBA far more money than FR would, just operating a couple of 73's.
However, I don't belive that the local people of Yorkshire are so loyal to Jet2 that they wouldn't switch to Ryanair if the price was right.
Jet2 operate the Jersey and a few others just to please the airport. I think PM (Jet2 CE) would go ballistic at the airport owners if they let FR in.
LS makes LBA far more money than FR would, just operating a couple of 73's.
However, I don't belive that the local people of Yorkshire are so loyal to Jet2 that they wouldn't switch to Ryanair if the price was right.
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Don't be so negative, the good people of Leeds wouldn't be so daft as to swap a 20+ year old 73 or 75 for a 2 year old Ryanair aircraft just because its cheaper, would they?
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When I get on a plane I want to land at my destination not at an airport 50 miles away
I.E Jet to Barcelona goes to Barcelona
Ryanair to Barcelona goes to Gerona nearly 60 miles away.
If you was travelling to Leeds/Bradford you would not want to fly to Liverpool
I.E Jet to Barcelona goes to Barcelona
Ryanair to Barcelona goes to Gerona nearly 60 miles away.
If you was travelling to Leeds/Bradford you would not want to fly to Liverpool
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Ryanair vs Jet2
I like to fly from my local airport wherever possible.Mainly due to the convenience of not having to take the train or drive over to Manchester.
I have flown Jet2 several times and think they are one of the better loco airlines around.
However I think their flights are not as cheap as they used to be,and their choice of destinations is mainly the traditional bucket and spade places.
I just hope that if Ryanair do increase their presence at LBA,they don't tread on Jet2's toes,and commence a bloodbath!.
There are plenty of places Ryanair could start flights to without overlapping with places Jet2 already fly to.
I know that the airport is trying to attract new airlines/routes to boost passenger figures.Would they be able to dictate to Ryanair which routes they fly,or is it purely the airlines choice?.
I have flown Jet2 several times and think they are one of the better loco airlines around.
However I think their flights are not as cheap as they used to be,and their choice of destinations is mainly the traditional bucket and spade places.
I just hope that if Ryanair do increase their presence at LBA,they don't tread on Jet2's toes,and commence a bloodbath!.
There are plenty of places Ryanair could start flights to without overlapping with places Jet2 already fly to.
I know that the airport is trying to attract new airlines/routes to boost passenger figures.Would they be able to dictate to Ryanair which routes they fly,or is it purely the airlines choice?.
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No doubt Ryanair are keen for a bloodbath, O' Leary's got deep pockets and he'll cut prices as much as he needs to in order to get a piece of the obviously lucrative LBA pie. Jet2 have proved that there's money to be made, so Mr O' Leary will be sure that he can make more, and if that means driving Jet2 to the wall, or at least out of town, then that's what he'll do.
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I suspect if LBA want FR, they will have to let them pick and choose their routes as they please.
IF FR want LBA, then TH will be in a position to dictate. I think he is keen to grow quickly and is not likely to be in a position where he can dictate outright to FR.
One thing is sure, it will certainly put a cat amongst the pigeons if FR do open a base in LBA.
IF FR want LBA, then TH will be in a position to dictate. I think he is keen to grow quickly and is not likely to be in a position where he can dictate outright to FR.
One thing is sure, it will certainly put a cat amongst the pigeons if FR do open a base in LBA.
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It stands out to me that FR are keen to see which airport gives them the best loads.
Why operate exactly the same 3 routes out of LBA as DSA ???
I'd like to see this actually, it may actually show DSA up to be the joke we always knew it was
Why operate exactly the same 3 routes out of LBA as DSA ???
I'd like to see this actually, it may actually show DSA up to be the joke we always knew it was
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A bit harsh!.
I have flown from DSA twice,once on a charter to Gerona,and also to Gdansk with Wizz Air.
I had no problem with the airport itself,nice terminal,but it was a ball ache to drive to from Leeds.
I don't view DSA as a serious rival to LBA for those of us in W.Yorks,but maybe for those in S.Yorks area its more convenient.
I don't see why they cannot continue to operate along side each other,and draw punters from their respective catchment areas.
I have flown from DSA twice,once on a charter to Gerona,and also to Gdansk with Wizz Air.
I had no problem with the airport itself,nice terminal,but it was a ball ache to drive to from Leeds.
I don't view DSA as a serious rival to LBA for those of us in W.Yorks,but maybe for those in S.Yorks area its more convenient.
I don't see why they cannot continue to operate along side each other,and draw punters from their respective catchment areas.
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I am no fan of MOL but, it does what it says on the can " Ryanair fly cheaper" the aircraft are spot less so are the fresh faced Eastern European Hosties, i have yet to see one above a size 10, sure their command of English is at best iffy, but who listens anyway and their legs go up to their ears!!
Ryanair aircraft fly faster and higher than old rust bucket 300's and have far less problems, i think a LBA base would make Jet2 up their game, they have had a good run, bring it on
Ryanair aircraft fly faster and higher than old rust bucket 300's and have far less problems, i think a LBA base would make Jet2 up their game, they have had a good run, bring it on
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If Ryanair set up at Leeds, then its only a matter of time before Jet 2 start feeling the heat and Ryanair flood the airport with routes at very low cost!! The airport management wants more passangers and thats exactly what MOL wants in his new boeings 
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Any room for a base?
If FR were to set up a base at Leeds, they would need overnight parking
stands at LBA. At the moment, most stands are already occupied at night.
This will be the limiting factor in the short term. FR usually demand big
discounts for the airport fees. Can't really see LBA booting off an existing
airline in order to allow FR in at a discounted deal! Therefore, any base
would be limited to one or two aircraft.
stands at LBA. At the moment, most stands are already occupied at night.
This will be the limiting factor in the short term. FR usually demand big
discounts for the airport fees. Can't really see LBA booting off an existing
airline in order to allow FR in at a discounted deal! Therefore, any base
would be limited to one or two aircraft.
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Michael O'Leary has told the Yorkshire Post he is talks with LBA about a base. Will come down to the financial deal offered. LBA is in competition with 6 or 7 other European airports. Base could open next spring
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Its been comfirmed today that MOL is in talks with Bridgepoint Capital regards Ryanair setting up a base at Leeds/Bradford Airport.
Talk of up to between 10 and 20 routes from next spring. Heres the following news artical from todays Local Yorkshire Post Newspaper.
Ryanair holds out hope of regional base - Yorkshire Post
Talk of up to between 10 and 20 routes from next spring. Heres the following news artical from todays Local Yorkshire Post Newspaper.
Ryanair holds out hope of regional base - Yorkshire Post
Ryanair holds out hope of regional base
By John Collingridge
City Reporter
BUDGET airline Ryanair is in talks about establishing a base at Leeds Bradford International Airport, which could mean a significant increase in flights.
Currently Ryanair flies three routes from the airport but does not have jets based there.
Airline chief executive Michael O'Leary said despite rising fuel costs, he hoped for Ryanair to fly between 10 and 20 routes from Leeds Bradford if an agreement were signed with the airport.
Mr O'Leary said: "It depends on a low cost base at Leeds Bradford which would allow Ryanair to establish Leeds Bradford as a base here in the UK. At the moment we have 10 bases in the UK – Leeds Bradford isn't one.
"We are in talks with the airport but unless the airport is able to beat the kind of low-cost offers we have from six or seven other European airports, then it'll have to wait its turn.
"If they come up with a really imaginative package on costs and proposals then Leeds Bradford could well be one of Ryanair's next bases in the spring. That would mean an enormous surge in routes, traffic and jobs at Leeds Bradford."
Ryanair's 10 UK bases include London Stanstead, Luton, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Liverpool. Last month the airline announced new routes to Barcelona and Alicante from Leeds Bradford, starting in October. It already has twice-daily flights to Dublin from the airport. Mr O'Leary did not discuss where the new routes might fly.
Leeds Bradford's new private equity owner Bridgepoint Capital has pledged to invest £70m in the airport.
Commercial and aviation development director Tony Hallwood said: "We look forward to working with any airline who's interested in expanding at Leeds Bradford. We believe we offer a great, competitively priced service at Leeds.
"At present we are in discussions with a wide number of airlines and Ryanair are one of those. At the present time we are more concerned that the two new routes just announced are successful."
The Dublin-based airline yesterday reaffirmed its intention to offer low fares in the face of soaring fuel costs and launched a £5 per flight strategy for one million flights in September.
It added fares would fall by five per cent this winter, and again reiterated its intention not to charge a fuel surcharge "not today, tomorrow or ever".
Mr O'Leary insisted the airline could sustain low prices and undercut rivals for the foreseeable future. Passenger numbers were up 19 per cent in July, with the airline now flying about 28m passengers per year from the UK, whom Mr O'Leary said are being poached from airlines such as British Airways.
He said: "We can sustain this for a couple of years even with oil at $130 a barrel. It will not be pretty from a shareholder's point of view. If it means for a year or two we do not make any money, as one of our largest shareholders I'm happy to live with that."
Last month Ryanair reported adjusted net profit in the three months to the end of June at 21m euros, (£16.57m), well below analysts' forecasts. Revenue grew 12 per cent to 777m euros, compared with the 865.4m (£683m) expected by analysts.
Mr O'Leary admitted the airline has been "consistently wrong" with its hedging of oil prices in the past 12 months. "I regret not hedging at $70 per barrel," he said. Ryanair has hedged its 90 per cent of September fuel needs at $129 per barrel, 80 per cent for its third quarter at $124, but has not hedged for the fourth quarter as it expects prices to fall. Oil is currently about $120 per barrel.
Mr O'Leary said he is in talks with both Boeing and Airbus buying new aircraft beyond 2012.
By John Collingridge
City Reporter
BUDGET airline Ryanair is in talks about establishing a base at Leeds Bradford International Airport, which could mean a significant increase in flights.
Currently Ryanair flies three routes from the airport but does not have jets based there.
Airline chief executive Michael O'Leary said despite rising fuel costs, he hoped for Ryanair to fly between 10 and 20 routes from Leeds Bradford if an agreement were signed with the airport.
Mr O'Leary said: "It depends on a low cost base at Leeds Bradford which would allow Ryanair to establish Leeds Bradford as a base here in the UK. At the moment we have 10 bases in the UK – Leeds Bradford isn't one.
"We are in talks with the airport but unless the airport is able to beat the kind of low-cost offers we have from six or seven other European airports, then it'll have to wait its turn.
"If they come up with a really imaginative package on costs and proposals then Leeds Bradford could well be one of Ryanair's next bases in the spring. That would mean an enormous surge in routes, traffic and jobs at Leeds Bradford."
Ryanair's 10 UK bases include London Stanstead, Luton, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Liverpool. Last month the airline announced new routes to Barcelona and Alicante from Leeds Bradford, starting in October. It already has twice-daily flights to Dublin from the airport. Mr O'Leary did not discuss where the new routes might fly.
Leeds Bradford's new private equity owner Bridgepoint Capital has pledged to invest £70m in the airport.
Commercial and aviation development director Tony Hallwood said: "We look forward to working with any airline who's interested in expanding at Leeds Bradford. We believe we offer a great, competitively priced service at Leeds.
"At present we are in discussions with a wide number of airlines and Ryanair are one of those. At the present time we are more concerned that the two new routes just announced are successful."
The Dublin-based airline yesterday reaffirmed its intention to offer low fares in the face of soaring fuel costs and launched a £5 per flight strategy for one million flights in September.
It added fares would fall by five per cent this winter, and again reiterated its intention not to charge a fuel surcharge "not today, tomorrow or ever".
Mr O'Leary insisted the airline could sustain low prices and undercut rivals for the foreseeable future. Passenger numbers were up 19 per cent in July, with the airline now flying about 28m passengers per year from the UK, whom Mr O'Leary said are being poached from airlines such as British Airways.
He said: "We can sustain this for a couple of years even with oil at $130 a barrel. It will not be pretty from a shareholder's point of view. If it means for a year or two we do not make any money, as one of our largest shareholders I'm happy to live with that."
Last month Ryanair reported adjusted net profit in the three months to the end of June at 21m euros, (£16.57m), well below analysts' forecasts. Revenue grew 12 per cent to 777m euros, compared with the 865.4m (£683m) expected by analysts.
Mr O'Leary admitted the airline has been "consistently wrong" with its hedging of oil prices in the past 12 months. "I regret not hedging at $70 per barrel," he said. Ryanair has hedged its 90 per cent of September fuel needs at $129 per barrel, 80 per cent for its third quarter at $124, but has not hedged for the fourth quarter as it expects prices to fall. Oil is currently about $120 per barrel.
Mr O'Leary said he is in talks with both Boeing and Airbus buying new aircraft beyond 2012.
