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No, We won't see EZY, Might see Wizz in the future??
A Gdansk or Krakow would work.
I don't think Bridgepoint will let a chance like FR go away.
If FR is offering to serve upto 20 destinations, Then Bridgepoint will not turn that down.
If they did then that would be very unpopular with the Yorkshire folk, And it would be a 'Bad' start for the company at LBIA.
I personally prefer Jet 2, But if FR are going to create routes & jobs then so be it.
FR don't have to serve all the Jet 2 destinations, They could start services to Frankfurt, Oslo, And other small french Airports.
Think both airlines can have a base at LBIA without upsetting each other.
A Gdansk or Krakow would work.
I don't think Bridgepoint will let a chance like FR go away.
If FR is offering to serve upto 20 destinations, Then Bridgepoint will not turn that down.
If they did then that would be very unpopular with the Yorkshire folk, And it would be a 'Bad' start for the company at LBIA.
I personally prefer Jet 2, But if FR are going to create routes & jobs then so be it.
FR don't have to serve all the Jet 2 destinations, They could start services to Frankfurt, Oslo, And other small french Airports.
Think both airlines can have a base at LBIA without upsetting each other.
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Probably one of the main purposes of Ryanair going into Leeds is to upset Jet 2. Don't be surprised to see Faro, Palma, Malaga and Murcia amongst the destinations and possibly Milan, Pisa, Rome and Venice.
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Can't see LBA giving in to the whims of MOL.
Jet2 have been a godsend to LBA,I don't think the new owners would want to upset them,after all they are the largest based airline.
If they do decide to welcome Ryanair open armed,I hope they don't go head to head with Jet2,there are plenty of places they could fly to that aren't currently served from LBA.
Jet2 have been a godsend to LBA,I don't think the new owners would want to upset them,after all they are the largest based airline.
If they do decide to welcome Ryanair open armed,I hope they don't go head to head with Jet2,there are plenty of places they could fly to that aren't currently served from LBA.
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EZY and FR is different to LS and FR. Ryanair would make is very hard for Jet2, yes Jet2 have got a massive customer base in Yorkshire and lets be honest the majority of the puiblic dont care if its a 20 year old 757 or a 2 year old 737. It will all come down to price, and unfortunately Ryanair will win.
Now lets hope the new management are thinking about this seriously as there is sufficient capacity and the spanish run routes so I think Jet2 are safe for now, however we are crying out for more German routes, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Bremen. For more eastern europe routes, Warsaw, Wroclaw, Katowice, Gdansk. For moer regional France routes, Limoges, Marseille, Brest, Montpellier.
Be very careful John Parkin!
Now lets hope the new management are thinking about this seriously as there is sufficient capacity and the spanish run routes so I think Jet2 are safe for now, however we are crying out for more German routes, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Bremen. For more eastern europe routes, Warsaw, Wroclaw, Katowice, Gdansk. For moer regional France routes, Limoges, Marseille, Brest, Montpellier.
Be very careful John Parkin!
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How secure would Jet2 be with Ryanair competing on the same routes ?
I don't see that Jet2 could survive a price war ex LBA, or could we be looking at a Co-operative venture where each operate their own routes initially.
Rumour in the industry is Jet2 will not survive the winter (I hope they will survive) any comments.
At least fuel is reducing in price again down to $115 per barrel yesterday.
Ryanair crews who live near LBA can't wait to move home, but not until the spring I hear.
I don't see that Jet2 could survive a price war ex LBA, or could we be looking at a Co-operative venture where each operate their own routes initially.
Rumour in the industry is Jet2 will not survive the winter (I hope they will survive) any comments.
At least fuel is reducing in price again down to $115 per barrel yesterday.
Ryanair crews who live near LBA can't wait to move home, but not until the spring I hear.
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And exactly where is that rumour from? Jet2 (Dart Group) results were out at the end of July, and despite the fuel costs, still made money. Not a great deal, but I think rumours of demise have little susbstance.
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Jet2 Ibiza flight delay
I see that the Ibiza flight due in at 15.00 today,is now due in at 09.00 tomorrow,a mere 18 hours!.
Does Jet2 have to provide meals,drinks,accomodation,or are the passengers left to fend for themselves?.
Does Jet2 have to provide meals,drinks,accomodation,or are the passengers left to fend for themselves?.
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Does Jet2 have to provide meals,drinks,accomodation,or are the passengers left to fend for themselves?
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People again have lost sight of the big strategic picture here. Bridegpoint have bought LBA as an investment and their plan is very simple. To realise the largest possible increase in the value of the business in the shortest possible time.
There is no conceivable way that the business will appreciate in value in any material way whilst ever it has a reliance on a single operator for well over 50% of its passenger throughput. It has therefore been obvious from the moment the airport was sold to Bridgepoint that the airport would be looking for other operators to diversify the airports route network and reduce the exposure to Jet2. That Ryanair are one of the operators the airport are talking to is about as much as a shock as a revelation that the Pope attends mass on a Sunday.
It is hardly a unique approach in the UK and LPL, EMA, BRS to name but 3 have offered deals to Ryanair to bring in sizeable passenger volumes at airports that already had an incumbent low cost operator. And the very capable and highly regarded commercial director who was involved with the Ryanair BRS deal is now in situ at LBA. Replacing a reliance on Jet2 with a reliance on Ryanair, or anyone else for that matter, gets them nowhere in terms of lumping a premium onto the sale price of LBA in a few years. A bigger airport with a much broader portfolio of operators is what they need. All very doable of course because the big big picture, if a reminder were needed, is that Yorkshire and Humberside if the region with highest rate of passenger leakage to other airports.
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There is no conceivable way that the business will appreciate in value in any material way whilst ever it has a reliance on a single operator for well over 50% of its passenger throughput. It has therefore been obvious from the moment the airport was sold to Bridgepoint that the airport would be looking for other operators to diversify the airports route network and reduce the exposure to Jet2. That Ryanair are one of the operators the airport are talking to is about as much as a shock as a revelation that the Pope attends mass on a Sunday.
It is hardly a unique approach in the UK and LPL, EMA, BRS to name but 3 have offered deals to Ryanair to bring in sizeable passenger volumes at airports that already had an incumbent low cost operator. And the very capable and highly regarded commercial director who was involved with the Ryanair BRS deal is now in situ at LBA. Replacing a reliance on Jet2 with a reliance on Ryanair, or anyone else for that matter, gets them nowhere in terms of lumping a premium onto the sale price of LBA in a few years. A bigger airport with a much broader portfolio of operators is what they need. All very doable of course because the big big picture, if a reminder were needed, is that Yorkshire and Humberside if the region with highest rate of passenger leakage to other airports.
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I agree it makes sense for the airport not to have all its eggs in one basket,ie Jet2.I am sure that new airlines will appear in the near future.I just hope that whoever it maybe,they don't just duplicate routes already served by Jet2.
I think one of the reasons why people from this region use other airports,is the fairly poor choice of destinations available from LBA.Yes we have come a hell of a long way since Jet2 commenced,but I have been to the Costas and Balearic islands,and would love the chance of going somewhere different from my local airport.
Does anyone think the new Management will try and encourage more of the big tour operators,Thomson.Airtours,etc to base aircraft at LBA in the future.The choice of "package holiday" destinations is pretty dire,or is this option on its way out,as people seem happy doing their own thing and booking independently more often these days.
I think one of the reasons why people from this region use other airports,is the fairly poor choice of destinations available from LBA.Yes we have come a hell of a long way since Jet2 commenced,but I have been to the Costas and Balearic islands,and would love the chance of going somewhere different from my local airport.
Does anyone think the new Management will try and encourage more of the big tour operators,Thomson.Airtours,etc to base aircraft at LBA in the future.The choice of "package holiday" destinations is pretty dire,or is this option on its way out,as people seem happy doing their own thing and booking independently more often these days.
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Ryanair wouldn't need to buy Jet 2 they would just use whatever means necessary to get them to terminate routes. They would go head to head and force them off services, they don't need to waste money on buying Jet 2.
The only time that Ryanair or easyJet has acquired any airlines is for the slots they hold at congested airports e.g Ryanair bought Buzz for the slots at Stansted and easyJet bought Go to expand at Stansted and GB Airways for the slots at Gatwick.
Otherwise these two would just muscle in on someone elses patch and force them out.
The only time that Ryanair or easyJet has acquired any airlines is for the slots they hold at congested airports e.g Ryanair bought Buzz for the slots at Stansted and easyJet bought Go to expand at Stansted and GB Airways for the slots at Gatwick.
Otherwise these two would just muscle in on someone elses patch and force them out.
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It comes down to a route war on price then its "Game Over" for Jet2
So a merger would save Jet2 who I am sure will struggle this winter should Ryanair enter Leeds in a big way.
Fuel costs and load factors not to mention accountants will decide the future of many airlines in the very near future,
It comes down to a route war on price then its "Game Over" for Jet2
So a merger would save Jet2 who I am sure will struggle this winter should Ryanair enter Leeds in a big way.
Fuel costs and load factors not to mention accountants will decide the future of many airlines in the very near future,
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Ryanair have not, if the oil price goes up again in the near future Jet2 are in a stronger position.
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Ryanair have hedged their fuel.
Yes today its $116 per barrel but with trend to about $110 in weeks to come if the world remains relatively stable, especially the oil producing countries.
Jet2 are considered by the financial community as one of the airlines with least ability to survive a recession.
The accountants are causing this fear, and the money boys are getting fatter on the speculation.
With Ryanair having more fat in the bank and a lower cost base its not difficult to see who will win.
Yes today its $116 per barrel but with trend to about $110 in weeks to come if the world remains relatively stable, especially the oil producing countries.
Jet2 are considered by the financial community as one of the airlines with least ability to survive a recession.
The accountants are causing this fear, and the money boys are getting fatter on the speculation.
With Ryanair having more fat in the bank and a lower cost base its not difficult to see who will win.