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With daily CO GLA-EWR, US GLA-PHL, along with the double daily CO EDI-EWR and daily DL EDI-JFK i can see GSM launching an NYC flight from Scotland.
Is the Boston flight returning for next summer ?
Is the Boston flight returning for next summer ?
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Flyglobespan had a few problems and pee'd a few people off 
listen mate they had and did more than that, no one has mentioned the problems that FGS that flying load of crap had at LPL bloody daily, talk about not knowing your 
from your elbow, a shambles from the top down,Watchdog has only scrapped the tip of this baby
listen mate they had and did more than that, no one has mentioned the problems that FGS that flying load of crap had at LPL bloody daily, talk about not knowing your from your elbow, a shambles from the top down,Watchdog has only scrapped the tip of this baby
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Unlucky, yes. However, they had a choice. They had several 767's that they decided to fob off to make some extra cash, so instead of using their own aircraft for their own routes they decided to use lesser aircraft from other airlines to operate the routes.
They can't constantly blame the aircraft they got from other airlines when their own aircraft were sent to India.
I hear that Watchdog's next episode have a second part of FGS's antics.
Will GSM be the official airline of the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games?
If they're bringing the Commonwealth to Glasgow then the games will no doubt be delayed to 2015... Assuming they're still in operation
They can't constantly blame the aircraft they got from other airlines when their own aircraft were sent to India.
I hear that Watchdog's next episode have a second part of FGS's antics.
Will GSM be the official airline of the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games?
If they're bringing the Commonwealth to Glasgow then the games will no doubt be delayed to 2015... Assuming they're still in operation
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I'm sorry but the neos aircraft cannot be included in all of this, they ran very well all summer, can anyone give details of any major tech delays with these aircraft?. They were well supported by neos and well maintained by the maintenance providers on both sides of the atlantic, and as such cannot be grouped with aircraft from other airlines that appeared to be jinxed.
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Neos & Icelandair
I flew with both and had good experiences on both.
I know TF-FIS & FIT had their problems over the summer but I'd agree with codpiece face, Neos did well for punctuality right through the summer - you could almost set your watch by the inbound GSM922 YVR-LGW as it passed over the house!
I know TF-FIS & FIT had their problems over the summer but I'd agree with codpiece face, Neos did well for punctuality right through the summer - you could almost set your watch by the inbound GSM922 YVR-LGW as it passed over the house!
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Indeed this experience was repeated at teesside most of this summer.I could regularly set my watch by the GSM from Malaga as it flew over my house on left base for 23 at 20.15
Problem was that the scheduled time was 14.15
Problem was that the scheduled time was 14.15
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I’ve been reading the recent post-ETOPS loss thread with interest and trying to sort out the postings of those who clearly have a personal axe to grind (disgruntled ex-employees or working for competitors?) from those who are willing to discuss GSM rationally and without personal malice. It’s not been easy !
I’ve also been keeping an eye on GSM’s punctuality since the winter schedules came in and I have to say there has been a massive improvement. OK, less pressure on the fleet but let’s hope that it allows them to get it together in time for their 2008 summer schedule.
I am sure that TD will have learned his lesson. He’s nobody’s fool; I guess he just made the mistake of believing that he could go on repeating his initial success and bit off more than he could chew. They need to consolidate their route network and the summer 08 schedules appear to suggest that that lesson is being learned, particularly with the dropping of the NOC/BOS route and the YHM routes from the English regional airports.
Let’s give them a chance. TD saw the gap in the market which the English low cost carriers were ignoring and stepped in to fill it, and it has to be said expand it considerably to the extent that Eazy and Jet2 were able to come in on the back of his and his team’s hard work.
I have to agree the comments on the reliability of the NEOS aircraft. Few problems. As for the 737-700 going out over the oggin – why not ? Many transatlantic routes out of Glasgow or Edinburgh simply couldn’t support a regular 767 service and the NG 737 is a very much more economic aircraft than the 757, which would probably be the only other alternative
I’ve also been keeping an eye on GSM’s punctuality since the winter schedules came in and I have to say there has been a massive improvement. OK, less pressure on the fleet but let’s hope that it allows them to get it together in time for their 2008 summer schedule.
I am sure that TD will have learned his lesson. He’s nobody’s fool; I guess he just made the mistake of believing that he could go on repeating his initial success and bit off more than he could chew. They need to consolidate their route network and the summer 08 schedules appear to suggest that that lesson is being learned, particularly with the dropping of the NOC/BOS route and the YHM routes from the English regional airports.
Let’s give them a chance. TD saw the gap in the market which the English low cost carriers were ignoring and stepped in to fill it, and it has to be said expand it considerably to the extent that Eazy and Jet2 were able to come in on the back of his and his team’s hard work.
I have to agree the comments on the reliability of the NEOS aircraft. Few problems. As for the 737-700 going out over the oggin – why not ? Many transatlantic routes out of Glasgow or Edinburgh simply couldn’t support a regular 767 service and the NG 737 is a very much more economic aircraft than the 757, which would probably be the only other alternative
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All is revealed in their 08 timetable, which shows no BOS services at all. Paphos ex MME probably a casualty of their cutting back on services from other than EDI and GLA plus Canada from MAN and LGW as well, in attempt to consolidate their network
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BOS still to be released for S08. Should go 4 weekly, probably 2 via NOC like S07.
YHM to be released for all airports for S08. Should see the usual GLA/MAN/LGW/EDI/SNN/DUB/BFS/LPL/BHX/EXT flights. Rumour was 6 daily flights into YHM from the UK. Will have to wait and see when the schedule is released.
There are still some capacity to fill from GLA for 5 A/C for SH this summer. Maybe ATH returning/SSH
YHM to be released for all airports for S08. Should see the usual GLA/MAN/LGW/EDI/SNN/DUB/BFS/LPL/BHX/EXT flights. Rumour was 6 daily flights into YHM from the UK. Will have to wait and see when the schedule is released.
There are still some capacity to fill from GLA for 5 A/C for SH this summer. Maybe ATH returning/SSH
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theredbarron,
I don't know where you learnt your maths but on 'long,thin' routes such as UK-YHM, the 757 is a much more efficient machine compared to the NG. It can easily make YHM from any of the mentioned UK departure points non-stop whereas the 737NG struggles hence all the tech. stopping in Kef' or St. Johns. And that's before you factor in the ferocious North Atlantic headwinds.
It may burn slightly more fuel but carries about 20 more pax (bonafide Buisness class hi yield), negates a costly tech stop for fuel therefore reduces possibilty of tech problems and doesn't expire the life of the aircraft as quickly as the airframe doesn't have to pressurise & de-pressurise.
Boeing designed this aircraft for the exact type of route GSM want to operate in UK-YHM.
I don't know where you learnt your maths but on 'long,thin' routes such as UK-YHM, the 757 is a much more efficient machine compared to the NG. It can easily make YHM from any of the mentioned UK departure points non-stop whereas the 737NG struggles hence all the tech. stopping in Kef' or St. Johns. And that's before you factor in the ferocious North Atlantic headwinds.
It may burn slightly more fuel but carries about 20 more pax (bonafide Buisness class hi yield), negates a costly tech stop for fuel therefore reduces possibilty of tech problems and doesn't expire the life of the aircraft as quickly as the airframe doesn't have to pressurise & de-pressurise.
Boeing designed this aircraft for the exact type of route GSM want to operate in UK-YHM.
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Will they just leave the summer 08 schedule from MME and only base 1 plane down there ? How many planes do GSM have based at GLA and EDI ? GSM have also launched there YHM flights for summer 08 from GLA/LGW/MAN/BRS/DUB/BFS ! No sign of NCL/EXT etc and they are only doing a twice weekly flight from GLA/LGW the rest 1 flight a week ! Unless that isn't the full schedule but by the looks of things it will just be 1 plane doing the route with the 752 doing it probably.
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YHM flight now on sale for next summer
EDI
GLA
BFS
DUB
BRS - new
LGW
MAN
Nothing (yet) for SNN, NCL, DSA, LPL, BHX, EXT and STN (though I think STN is definetly going with the base closure there)
EDI
GLA
BFS
DUB
BRS - new
LGW
MAN
Nothing (yet) for SNN, NCL, DSA, LPL, BHX, EXT and STN (though I think STN is definetly going with the base closure there)
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One of the weekly GLA flights looks to be a split load coming from LGW, the other one is a YHM based aircraft though. Anyone know whats happening with MME? still 2 aircraft required from end of May til end of Sep because of the Saturday Jersey.
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Do you think they will launch anymore YHM flights from SNN, NCL, DSA, LPL, BHX, EXT and STN ? or do you think they will just do the program they have with just the 752 ? but then what will they do with spare 738 ?
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Do you think GSM are to launch anymore routes ? What are they going to do with the 3rd 767 ? According to this website http://www.jethros.i12.com/fleets/fl...yglobespan.htm they will have all three 767's for summer 08 ! Do you think JFK is out the window NOC still show on there website route map you can fly there ? Is Boston coming back though ?
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