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The joe public are not so stupid anymore, they know what they want.
Only a few wont care which is not enough to keep that co going.
All summer selling premium economy, its the same pitch as economy on the 757, oh you get a free drink and a meal on a tray instead of in a bag.
There even saying there doing JFK from liverpool next year.
Yeah probably on a 727 with 10 stops. nobody will fly with them from liverpool after the shambles this year.
As you can tell im another one thats been shafted by this co, cant make money flying from manchester we were told,
Oh is that why flights from manchester on sale.
Only a few wont care which is not enough to keep that co going.
All summer selling premium economy, its the same pitch as economy on the 757, oh you get a free drink and a meal on a tray instead of in a bag.
There even saying there doing JFK from liverpool next year.
Yeah probably on a 727 with 10 stops. nobody will fly with them from liverpool after the shambles this year.
As you can tell im another one thats been shafted by this co, cant make money flying from manchester we were told,
Oh is that why flights from manchester on sale.
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It's a shame about the MAN/LPL base, thought this would have been a cert to stay as a main longhaul base. GSM have brought everything back to GLA/EDI to get themselves sorted out over W07. There are longhaul ops from MAN next year, and they are planning to use their own A/C next year. 2 B739ERs have been mentioned to operate LH flights to YHM. Will have to wait and see what is launched. As for the schedule that is posted earlier, not sure if this is correct. I'd see BOS 4 weekly, with 2 of these going via NOC and YHM 5 weekly from GLA direct.
According to the sched above, they intend to fly MAN/YHM 757 on a Monday and, on the same day operate a B738 from 30 miles down the road from LPL to YHM via KEF.
It just doesn't make sense
It just doesn't make sense
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Of the three Globespan B767-300 ( G-CDPT / G-CEFG / G-CEOD ) sourced from Air New Zealand and painted in Globespan colours, how many will fly passenger services from the UK for them in Summer 2008?
Also, do we have a source from where the B757s are coming from as I believe their one and only B757 is being returned this month?
Thanks
Also, do we have a source from where the B757s are coming from as I believe their one and only B757 is being returned this month?
Thanks
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As said by Caaardiff were talking about GSM
the said 757 is still knackered, probably gone the knackers yard
Does not matter what they put on the website they will change it and add 3 stops anyway....
the said 757 is still knackered, probably gone the knackers yard
Does not matter what they put on the website they will change it and add 3 stops anyway....
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The flightdeck in STN use to call the B757s Hotrod 1 and Hotrod 2, due to the number of engine changes..my mate Wah Wah spent most of the summer in the hangar fixing em...no wonder he was smiling with all the o/t.
Pity the poor pax that got well shafted on frame changes and multi stops over the pond. Weren't this lot involved in the demise of Sabre? but then I guess that was someone elses fault as well.
Pity the poor pax that got well shafted on frame changes and multi stops over the pond. Weren't this lot involved in the demise of Sabre? but then I guess that was someone elses fault as well.
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The Cabin Crew Have Plenty To Say....!!!
Just a bit of info'-
There seems to be a right old slanging match going on in the "Flyglobespan" Section of www.cabincrew.com
Some of the postings make for alarming reading - if indeed they are true and substantiated
The thrust of the allegation is that following ETOPS suspension and subsequent re-instatement - that an ETOPS flight was conducted with substantial ETOPS equipment missing from the aircraft -
Posted by ggggg today (06th Nov)on www.cabincrew.com
What about insurance validity re, liabilities etc. rgarding non-conformity???
This is getting beyond the joke and if factually confirmed something needs to be done about these muppets
- I do hope the regulatory authorities are really putting this lot under the microscope.
Cheers
ScottyD
There seems to be a right old slanging match going on in the "Flyglobespan" Section of www.cabincrew.com
Some of the postings make for alarming reading - if indeed they are true and substantiated
The thrust of the allegation is that following ETOPS suspension and subsequent re-instatement - that an ETOPS flight was conducted with substantial ETOPS equipment missing from the aircraft -
Posted by ggggg today (06th Nov)on www.cabincrew.com
This is exactly what happened - The outbound crew did not notice during their pre-flight checks that the liferafts, survival packs and ETOPS safety cards were not in place. It was only when the aircraft had already landed in JFK after operating an ETOPS certified route, when the Inbound operating Cabin Crew realised during their checks the items were missing. The aircraft then operated a non ETOPS certified route back to U.K. ooops!!
This is getting beyond the joke and if factually confirmed something needs to be done about these muppets
- I do hope the regulatory authorities are really putting this lot under the microscope.Cheers
ScottyD
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I notice that its been almost a week since my last post and now that i have calmed down,let me just say i DO have personal issues with GSM as do lots of other pax that have been dumped on this past summer.However, i thought this was a forum where free opinion was allowed-obviously not as i have seemingly annoyed quite a few folk that can't handle the TRUTH!!Whatever-so they got ETOPS back...big deal.I KNOW that GSM are still under investigation by the CAA and i am not going to reveal how i know that but it's true.I AM NOT A LIAR.Take it for what it is.Goodbye and good luck.
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I don't usually write on these forums,but I would like to say- even though there is so much bad press concerning FlyGlobespan (nearly all of which is rightly justified) and they have nearly destroyed their reputation due to the programme they tried to pull off this summer.Things are changing and hopefully for the better.It's a terrible blow to lose all the fantastic crew and flightdeck alike from gla,man,and stn,they were the frontline for all the problems behind the scenes and should be commended for coping through it all.
It looks like they have had to do this if the company is to survive which hopefully it does and different people are now in position to make this happen.It will be a long process and I for one hope they do get there as there are still alot of people here working really hard and want to have a job in 6 months.Hopefully from the flight deck and cabincrew point of view the respective unions will win recognition soon which will create better working conditions and regulate their practices alot better
It looks like they have had to do this if the company is to survive which hopefully it does and different people are now in position to make this happen.It will be a long process and I for one hope they do get there as there are still alot of people here working really hard and want to have a job in 6 months.Hopefully from the flight deck and cabincrew point of view the respective unions will win recognition soon which will create better working conditions and regulate their practices alot better
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there is a report on Cabin Crew that AFTER they got ETOPS back a flight went out sans rescue equipment 30/10/07
"This is exactly what happened - The outbound crew did not notice during their pre-flight checks that the liferafts, survival packs and ETOPS safety cards were not in place. It was only when the aircraft had already landed in JFK after operating an ETOPS certified route, when the Inbound operating Cabin Crew realised during their checks the items were missing. The aircraft then operated a non ETOPS certified route back to U.K. ooops!! "
Supposidly FGS are on Watchdog tonight??
"This is exactly what happened - The outbound crew did not notice during their pre-flight checks that the liferafts, survival packs and ETOPS safety cards were not in place. It was only when the aircraft had already landed in JFK after operating an ETOPS certified route, when the Inbound operating Cabin Crew realised during their checks the items were missing. The aircraft then operated a non ETOPS certified route back to U.K. ooops!! "
Supposidly FGS are on Watchdog tonight??
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in my previous (non flying) career I worked for a major multinational company that got (falsely) pilloried by Watchdog. The BBC eventually had to issue a public apology, on the threat of major court action.
almost all of what they said was made up (i.e lies) in order to support a claim they had made previously, and they kept on building a larger and larger pile of lies, as they refused to admit they had made a mistake.
On that basis, I would take anything shown on watchdog with a huge pinch of salt. Its gutter journalism at its worst.
No doubt Globespan have had a few problems and peed a few people off, but it will almost certainly be blown out of all proportion by the D rate journo's on that program.
almost all of what they said was made up (i.e lies) in order to support a claim they had made previously, and they kept on building a larger and larger pile of lies, as they refused to admit they had made a mistake.
On that basis, I would take anything shown on watchdog with a huge pinch of salt. Its gutter journalism at its worst.
No doubt Globespan have had a few problems and peed a few people off, but it will almost certainly be blown out of all proportion by the D rate journo's on that program.