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30W,
You make a very valid point about trundling off down T16.
I have often wondered if SCQ was out what the legalities were but could never find anything about it in our manuals.
It would seem to be a situation that the authorities need to legislate for.
I feel fairly confident that in my Co, if SCQ was out, that they would happily reroute me if I asked.
How is FNC these days, haven't been there for years, often fly down to TFS and listen to the FNC weather to see how exciting it might be!
You make a very valid point about trundling off down T16.
I have often wondered if SCQ was out what the legalities were but could never find anything about it in our manuals.
It would seem to be a situation that the authorities need to legislate for.
I feel fairly confident that in my Co, if SCQ was out, that they would happily reroute me if I asked.
How is FNC these days, haven't been there for years, often fly down to TFS and listen to the FNC weather to see how exciting it might be!
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I don't think so. All I've spoken to are in the process of bailing out or at least looking elsewhere, but no-one has mentioned redundancies at Edi or Gla.
I certainly do know that a load of people who were thinking about joining or were about to, have all decided not to. I think they'll find it even harder to get experienced people now and that has always been the problem.
My understanding of the ETOPS "problem" is that it is down to the experience levels of the crews operating the routes. I have no hard evidence to back this up and I suspect no-one else outside of the management team or the CAA has either, but that is the current gossip amongst the GSM crews.
I certainly do know that a load of people who were thinking about joining or were about to, have all decided not to. I think they'll find it even harder to get experienced people now and that has always been the problem.
My understanding of the ETOPS "problem" is that it is down to the experience levels of the crews operating the routes. I have no hard evidence to back this up and I suspect no-one else outside of the management team or the CAA has either, but that is the current gossip amongst the GSM crews.
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Sinking Ship
Yeah thats correct say again slowly.
I know of a number of B767/737NG captains and first officers who are just about to walk. All dumping the agency and have got jobs after a week/month of taking some r&r, and the advise was passed to them by a higher authority (not saying which organisation).
Ryanair will take any ng guys asap.
Guess its time................ Bye Bye now
X Jimmy
I know of a number of B767/737NG captains and first officers who are just about to walk. All dumping the agency and have got jobs after a week/month of taking some r&r, and the advise was passed to them by a higher authority (not saying which organisation).
Ryanair will take any ng guys asap.
Guess its time................ Bye Bye now
X Jimmy
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Just a point on what l have read in the Travel press, here is what was quoted.
It is believed to be related to an incident in early summer involving a US-based subcontractor. The CAA confirmed the US Federal Aviation Administration is involved.
This is why l believe it is not aircrew related as it would be a CAA issue only, if it was aircrew.
It is believed to be related to an incident in early summer involving a US-based subcontractor. The CAA confirmed the US Federal Aviation Administration is involved.
This is why l believe it is not aircrew related as it would be a CAA issue only, if it was aircrew.
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I seem to remember typing that I had no evidence to back up any assertations, but having seen a company lose approvals before, it takes an awful lot more than just one isolated incident unless it was an extremely serious problem.
The other point is that no-one here actually knows, it is all just speculation.
I'll assure you of one thing though, there certainly are lots of people on the way out of GSM. That is beyond question.
The other point is that no-one here actually knows, it is all just speculation.
I'll assure you of one thing though, there certainly are lots of people on the way out of GSM. That is beyond question.
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Ah ure right there Pontious pirate that i know not much of the etops loss. No interest really. monkeys Nuts???Only going on what the other half tells me about the proposed mass exodus from the airtaxi wannanbee airline.
You did ok out of it
Regards
Jimmy
You did ok out of it
Regards
Jimmy
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Lots of people trying to hang GSM's problems with ETOPS on the lease deals done this summer and that is the only area of concern that the CAA are interested in.
However, if that were the case why has the CAA pulled all their FTL alleviations then?
Even their dual basing aleviation has been pulled!
However, if that were the case why has the CAA pulled all their FTL alleviations then?
Even their dual basing aleviation has been pulled!
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The Subcontractors have absolutely nothing to do with the ETOPS issues at GSM.
Icelandair still flies happily ETOPS on it's flights and has never been under investigation.
It is sadtosee howsomepeople always blame problems on others .
Icelandair still flies happily ETOPS on it's flights and has never been under investigation.
It is sadtosee howsomepeople always blame problems on others .
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The ETOPS suspension is just the tip of the iceberg. The safety regulation group of the CAA are investigating other allegations of malpractice in terms of FDP's of both Flight Deck and Cabin Crew. I also understand that the CAA's Head of Operating Standards is now conducting an investigation of his own. Watch this space.
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A buy out by EZY !!!!! no thank you , we dont want this shower of amateurs , we will finish them off commercially next year anyway .Major amount of new routes coming in Scotland , head to head there is no way that they can compete with us.
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Mr Angry , we have now got two if you include Gb 's 
I do agree that the shower of avid self publicists , amateurs , pysychotic managers , remember the rant by Mr Q on this forum ? will be devoid of an AOC in the near future if the current trend continues .
Well do i remember the GSM that pushed in heavy snow last winter without de-icing only to prevented from taxiing by the tug crew who were so concerned about it .
The "Helios" incident they had, hangar maintenance done outdoors on the ramp at GLA , fill your boots , this lot are headed for trouble !
I do agree that the shower of avid self publicists , amateurs , pysychotic managers , remember the rant by Mr Q on this forum ? will be devoid of an AOC in the near future if the current trend continues .
Well do i remember the GSM that pushed in heavy snow last winter without de-icing only to prevented from taxiing by the tug crew who were so concerned about it .
The "Helios" incident they had, hangar maintenance done outdoors on the ramp at GLA , fill your boots , this lot are headed for trouble !