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Have Ryanair finished loading their winter07/08 schedule yet? I ask as BOH is missing 4 of it's routes. If these 4 have been cancelled I am suprised at the loss of Pisa and Madrid as these are performing well now.
Thanks for any help with the above.
Thanks for any help with the above.
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The concrete frequency reductions do not seem to be finally decided as yet. In some cases you cannot make bookings (any more?) after the end of October while FR is just planning the cuts. Do I remember properly that e.g. Vitoria flights from STN were already bookable for the Winter? Well, now they aren't. And the Spanish press wrote today:
"Ryanair reducirá sus frecuencias a Londres desde Foronda".
Ryanair ha anunciado que aplicará en la próxima temporada de invierno -comienza el 28 de octubre-una 'drástica' política de reducción de operaciones".
So, as they write, FR is going to reduce the frequencies "drastically". Well, in fact maybe not that drastically, but anyway: "Vitoria lleva todas las de perder. Según un portavoz de Ryanair, las frecuencias del enlace con el aeropuerto londinense de Stansted se verán recortadas y pasarán, con toda probabilidad, de cinco a cuatro semanales." From five to four per week.
And it's just an example.
"Ryanair reducirá sus frecuencias a Londres desde Foronda".
Ryanair ha anunciado que aplicará en la próxima temporada de invierno -comienza el 28 de octubre-una 'drástica' política de reducción de operaciones".
So, as they write, FR is going to reduce the frequencies "drastically". Well, in fact maybe not that drastically, but anyway: "Vitoria lleva todas las de perder. Según un portavoz de Ryanair, las frecuencias del enlace con el aeropuerto londinense de Stansted se verán recortadas y pasarán, con toda probabilidad, de cinco a cuatro semanales." From five to four per week.
And it's just an example.
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@840:
they had some lawsuits especially in Germany if they can call eg. Dusseldorf-Weeze Dusseldorf. They won the lawsuit, but they have to call it Dusseldorf-Weeze* *about 70km from Dusseldorf City (they always have to write this with a star).
Hamburg-Lübeck has to be called Hamburg (Luebeck) in Germany, but can be called "Hamburg" outside Germany. Some years ago they had to write Hamburg (LBC) and even Hamburg (Lübeck-Blankensee).
So there is a lot of change in the names on their website, and I wonder if they still know themselve how their destinations are called.
I remember one flight from NYO to LBC some month ago where one of the cabin crew asked her colleague... "welcome to the flight to... ahm, sorry, I have to ask ... A, I see, Hamburg."
they had some lawsuits especially in Germany if they can call eg. Dusseldorf-Weeze Dusseldorf. They won the lawsuit, but they have to call it Dusseldorf-Weeze* *about 70km from Dusseldorf City (they always have to write this with a star).
Hamburg-Lübeck has to be called Hamburg (Luebeck) in Germany, but can be called "Hamburg" outside Germany. Some years ago they had to write Hamburg (LBC) and even Hamburg (Lübeck-Blankensee).
So there is a lot of change in the names on their website, and I wonder if they still know themselve how their destinations are called.
I remember one flight from NYO to LBC some month ago where one of the cabin crew asked her colleague... "welcome to the flight to... ahm, sorry, I have to ask ... A, I see, Hamburg."
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Ryanair goes on the attack in Spain
Among many sources you might read from in search for some rumours being as far from lies and mystifications as possible, the Financial Times seems to be one of the most reliable ones. Look what I've found some minutes ago on FT.com, just published. Well, I tend to believe this one.
Wow, is it where the spare capacity from Stansted and other bases goes this winter?
Ryanair goes on the attack in Spain
Published: August 5 2007 19:31
Ryanair, the leading European low-cost airline, is establishing two more operating bases in Spain.
The Irish carrier, which has the broadest spread of operations across Europe of any airline, with 20 bases in eight countries, is thought to be close to finalising deals in Valencia and Alicante.
The expected moves will intensify the battle for the Spanish market, the main focus for the expansion of low-cost carriers in Europe after the UK and Germany.
Published: August 5 2007 19:31
Ryanair, the leading European low-cost airline, is establishing two more operating bases in Spain.
The Irish carrier, which has the broadest spread of operations across Europe of any airline, with 20 bases in eight countries, is thought to be close to finalising deals in Valencia and Alicante.
The expected moves will intensify the battle for the Spanish market, the main focus for the expansion of low-cost carriers in Europe after the UK and Germany.
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I can tell you now ALC-MME/DSA with Ryanair aint going to happen any time soon, looks like Ryanair is about to take on other airlines on major routes now, and a slight change in direction, from little secondary airports to the likes of TFS, PMI, ALC, makes you wonder whats next. Im sure a ALC base would do very well, and have high loads
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ALC would probably go to airports such as PIK where there is currently no scheduled link.
I am not so sure about other FR bases following as EZY, TOM and ZB to name afew have many UK FR bases covered such as LTN, BRS, EMA etc.
I am not so sure about other FR bases following as EZY, TOM and ZB to name afew have many UK FR bases covered such as LTN, BRS, EMA etc.
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Why only PIk, it has GLA near where easyJet fly to ALC, and as for other Uk bases, i dont see why not, if Ryanair can do cheaper then people will fly with them. Ryanair started CIA from EMA even tho easyJet started long before Ryanair did, and TFS where EMA now has a service of some 14 flights aweek, didnt stop Ryanair starting up the route aswell.
I think major airpirts are starting to take note of Ryanair and many are willing to have them fly in at a reduced fee just to keep pax numbers up. Also yeh Ryanair will get alot of competition from other Uk airlines but at the end of the day most people will choose to fly with who is cheaper, esp those second home owners in spain.
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I think major airpirts are starting to take note of Ryanair and many are willing to have them fly in at a reduced fee just to keep pax numbers up. Also yeh Ryanair will get alot of competition from other Uk airlines but at the end of the day most people will choose to fly with who is cheaper, esp those second home owners in spain.
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Yes, but do they always offer the cheapest fare?
FR are very cheap, but they can be out priced by other airlines in certain markets. EZY operate tens of flights per day into ALC from all over the UK, and are KNOWN for doing it. FR are KNOWN for flying to Seville, Granada etc.
The market that FR are trying to push themselves into won't just blossom overnight. They maybe the biggest LC airline in Europe, but when it comes between FR and EZY on the AGP, FAO ALC etc routes, EZY wins hands down, and will continue in the near future.
FR are very cheap, but they can be out priced by other airlines in certain markets. EZY operate tens of flights per day into ALC from all over the UK, and are KNOWN for doing it. FR are KNOWN for flying to Seville, Granada etc.
The market that FR are trying to push themselves into won't just blossom overnight. They maybe the biggest LC airline in Europe, but when it comes between FR and EZY on the AGP, FAO ALC etc routes, EZY wins hands down, and will continue in the near future.
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Wishful thinking
Ryanair seem to like few things more than challenging Easyjet. They outcompeted them on the Irish (Republic of) routes and are about to take them on on the Belfast routes. Alicante will be just another market to compete for them and I expect quite successfully.
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There is a difference between fighting EZY on FR's homeland and EZY's homeland.
EZY have VERY little presence in the EIRE market whereas FR is the countries biggest.
Fighting EZY where they are strongest - the UK - where they have 10 bases does give EZY the very biggest of edges.
On the BFS/BHD situation, EZY and LS seem to be reacting to the FR news as LS have put 08 summer flights on sale and also EZY have launched new routes. But remember, FR will only be able to carry 140 passengers and lugging a 738 around Europe with only 74% full a/c max, it will take it's toll and FR won't look so cheap in Northern Ireland.
Anyway, this is one of a billion FR v EZY convos, we will just have to wait and see.
EZY have VERY little presence in the EIRE market whereas FR is the countries biggest.
Fighting EZY where they are strongest - the UK - where they have 10 bases does give EZY the very biggest of edges.
On the BFS/BHD situation, EZY and LS seem to be reacting to the FR news as LS have put 08 summer flights on sale and also EZY have launched new routes. But remember, FR will only be able to carry 140 passengers and lugging a 738 around Europe with only 74% full a/c max, it will take it's toll and FR won't look so cheap in Northern Ireland.
Anyway, this is one of a billion FR v EZY convos, we will just have to wait and see.
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Who will pay the fines for FR late arrivals at BHD? increasing from 21.30-23.30. Payments to airport and local community for every half hour the flight is delayed. If later than 23.30 - midnight, landing fees etc at BFS then hiring a bus down to BHD or will they in the FR fashion leave the passengers at BFS. To avoid this all their flights will have to arrive quite early in the day. However if they create very busy periods at set times, there will be no room for their aircraft creating delays etc.
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The flights going into BHD I'm sure are all planned during the mid afternoon etc. EMA's flight arrives at 13.40. Obviously we are all expecting a further announcement as to what the european routes entail.
Where did this 140pax limit for BHD come from? I'd be interested to read it or see it for myself from a working interest perspective
I know Derry is 141pax limited inbound much the same lenth as BHD in runway terms, however then Inverness is again much the same and we have no pax limits to operate in there.
As for ALC+EZY FR and EZY are both reat at marketing and once word is out then they can expect passengers. FR presently are trying to unsettle EZY all over the park.Wouldn't be surprised to see Edinburgh/Newcaslte open up as FR bases in years to come.
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Where did this 140pax limit for BHD come from? I'd be interested to read it or see it for myself from a working interest perspective
I know Derry is 141pax limited inbound much the same lenth as BHD in runway terms, however then Inverness is again much the same and we have no pax limits to operate in there.As for ALC+EZY FR and EZY are both reat at marketing and once word is out then they can expect passengers. FR presently are trying to unsettle EZY all over the park.Wouldn't be surprised to see Edinburgh/Newcaslte open up as FR bases in years to come.
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The passenger limit of max 140, was stated by Peter Sherrard the Ryanair spokesman at the city when the announcement was made a couple of weeks ago.
The fines for airlines arriving after the declared closing time are not imposed on the existing carriers, are you sure they are to be levied on Ryanair if they are late?
The fines for airlines arriving after the declared closing time are not imposed on the existing carriers, are you sure they are to be levied on Ryanair if they are late?
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Part of the planning review recommendations was that as an airline has to pay the airport for opening late due to delays, the planners suggested that a payment be also made to the local community rising increments depending on the lateness of the delay. As there is to be a hearing in September won by opposers to the cap being lifted, the whole planning review agreement has not been implemented yet. This will not happen until the outcome of the above hearing has been carried out.