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A month or so ago Ryanair applied for daily slots for DUB-PRG-DUB, BOH-PRG-BOH, EIN-PRG-EIN and BRE-PRG-BRE, and slots for thrice-weekly NYO-PRG-NYO. But that doesn’t, of course, mean that Ryanair will operate those routes. The article from which I got the information stated that a public announcement would be made in early July, but that hasn’t, of course, happened. Since then I haven’t heard anything. Does anyone have any new information?
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Ryanair predictions
It is pointless trying to predict what Ryanair are going to do next as the final decisions are made at the very top.
Usually the calling of a press conference is the only real hint that emerges and even then senior airport executives aren't sure of the routes.
Ryanair employees predictions have been as wide of the mark as those of the rest of us and that includes me!
Usually the calling of a press conference is the only real hint that emerges and even then senior airport executives aren't sure of the routes.
Ryanair employees predictions have been as wide of the mark as those of the rest of us and that includes me!
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It is pointless trying to predict what Ryanair are going to do next as the final decisions are made at the very top.
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Fr and BOO? Any1 heard anything about this before or on another place?
http://boarding.no/art.asp?id=27564
http://boarding.no/art.asp?id=27564
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FR has been negotiating with several airports all over Scandinavia, but only less than half of these negotiations were successful. I do believe Bodø could be an interesting "exotic" destination, but it's usually hard to predict the results.
Here in Finland we've heard about "Lappeenranta - the gate to Saint Petersburg", it's already forgotten (at least no rumours any more). As another possible destination was half-officially mentioned Oulu... is it forgotten too? By chance, in today's Finnish newspaper I've read: "Oulu Airport wants new airlines" (conferring with Ryanair and others). So, who knows?
Here in Finland we've heard about "Lappeenranta - the gate to Saint Petersburg", it's already forgotten (at least no rumours any more). As another possible destination was half-officially mentioned Oulu... is it forgotten too? By chance, in today's Finnish newspaper I've read: "Oulu Airport wants new airlines" (conferring with Ryanair and others). So, who knows?
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"Indeed, another factor is Ryanair's ability to (re)act quickly. Often they might have big plans for Lubeck, for example, but then Madrid (who they weren't even considering) offer a lucrative deal and in one, two, three all plans are revised at lightning speed!"
Certainly! And FR's ability to act, react and change is, of course, largely due to its shorter-term mindset and its leanness, the latter of enormous importance for quick adaption.
FR is generally shorter-term thinking, and will very often react to real opportunities, particularly those that enable better deals and lower costs, with lightening speed; indeed, MOL himself is one of the best opportunists, and he has often said that long-term plans, not necessarily strategic but mainly dealing with detail, are pretty pointless.
Edited to cut an inaccurate example.
Certainly! And FR's ability to act, react and change is, of course, largely due to its shorter-term mindset and its leanness, the latter of enormous importance for quick adaption.
FR is generally shorter-term thinking, and will very often react to real opportunities, particularly those that enable better deals and lower costs, with lightening speed; indeed, MOL himself is one of the best opportunists, and he has often said that long-term plans, not necessarily strategic but mainly dealing with detail, are pretty pointless.
Edited to cut an inaccurate example.
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Madrid
What about the new routes from madrid barajas? Why they don´t appear on the route map?
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Madrid - Karlsruhe Baden
Madrid - Alghero
Madrid - Dusseldorf
Madrid - Frankfurt
Madrid - Liverpool
Madrid - Trapani
Madrid - Venice
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Madrid - Karlsruhe Baden
Madrid - Alghero
Madrid - Dusseldorf
Madrid - Frankfurt
Madrid - Liverpool
Madrid - Trapani
Madrid - Venice
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Madrid reshuffle
The reshuffle of routes at the Madrid base for Winter 2007/8 will be mean a couple of axed routes combined with a few new ones, of which one will be Madrid - Girona.
Announcement soon.
Announcement soon.
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Ryanair to pay the price of Free Seats
Hahahaha...
Woke up to the news (BBC) this morning, which said that Ryanair is expected to post their lowest profits in the last 4 years due to offering too many free seats to fill up their airplanes....
What a shame! Maybe they should paint more offensive slogans on the sides of their aircraft and passengers will pay to fly with them...
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I shall remain bitter untill I get my £50 back for the on-line application which I never heard anything back...
Woke up to the news (BBC) this morning, which said that Ryanair is expected to post their lowest profits in the last 4 years due to offering too many free seats to fill up their airplanes....
What a shame! Maybe they should paint more offensive slogans on the sides of their aircraft and passengers will pay to fly with them...
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I shall remain bitter untill I get my £50 back for the on-line application which I never heard anything back...
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Planes parked
Ryanair are having a harder time filling the planes outside the summer peak.
From the Q1 results today:-
"We will continue to grow over the winter period, however, due to the softness in yields, and the doubling of both UK APD and costs at Stansted, we plan to reduce the number of aircraft operated ex Stansted this winter by almost 20% from 40 to 33. This will mean reduced frequency or temporary cessation of services on routes which would be loss making due to Stansted’s higher airport charges."
From the Q1 results today:-
"We will continue to grow over the winter period, however, due to the softness in yields, and the doubling of both UK APD and costs at Stansted, we plan to reduce the number of aircraft operated ex Stansted this winter by almost 20% from 40 to 33. This will mean reduced frequency or temporary cessation of services on routes which would be loss making due to Stansted’s higher airport charges."
Ryanair to ground planes to save money
Just been reported on BBC1 that Ryanair's financial director says they are going to ground aircraft at Stansted Airport as charges have gone up so much. Cheaper to keep them on the ground? I was always taught aeroplanes only made money when they were airborne - preferably full.
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Your teaching was right, Fly380, but didn't take into account the spectacularly good deal Ryanair got from Boeing for their 737-800s, which in conjunction with the strength of the market for used -800s at the moment means that FR can effectively sell the aircraft after say five years for the same price they bought them for.
So if the capital costs of the aircraft are near zero, then the route economics have all to do with variable costs. IMHO the "Stansted's doubled its charges" argument is only a small bit of the story (Ryanair? economical with the truth? surely not!). Diminishing returns are playing their role: there are only so many available routes across Europe (from the UK in particular) which will sustain high-frequency service all year round, and most of them have been found already - so Ryanair's having to go after more seasonal routes which only provide profitable flying in the summer months. And whether issues of crew availability or crew hours also play a role here, I'll leave to others more expert than I in the subject...
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So if the capital costs of the aircraft are near zero, then the route economics have all to do with variable costs. IMHO the "Stansted's doubled its charges" argument is only a small bit of the story (Ryanair? economical with the truth? surely not!). Diminishing returns are playing their role: there are only so many available routes across Europe (from the UK in particular) which will sustain high-frequency service all year round, and most of them have been found already - so Ryanair's having to go after more seasonal routes which only provide profitable flying in the summer months. And whether issues of crew availability or crew hours also play a role here, I'll leave to others more expert than I in the subject...
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More like Ryanair posturing re the hike in BAA Stansted charges. I believe Sky Europe are moving from STN to Luton & Air Berlin are scaling back their STN services for the same reason.
Sounds like STN are gonna shoot themselves in the foot here.
Sounds like STN are gonna shoot themselves in the foot here.
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The spin in the press release and on BBC Breakfast today was very much a hit at BAA Stansted, comments that are justified too.
In practice though - will FR really have 7 aircraft parked up somewhere all winter? Or will they be moved to other bases, or will the winter schedule just have more slack and longer turn-rounds built into it?
In practice though - will FR really have 7 aircraft parked up somewhere all winter? Or will they be moved to other bases, or will the winter schedule just have more slack and longer turn-rounds built into it?
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More slack and longer turn-rounds cost money as staff need paying for more hours. Ryanair has a policy of buying 90% of it preductied fuel at a fixed price when it can. For this year that price equates to $63/barrel. The current market price is $77/barrel which is what it will pay on the last 10% in uses. On many routes it will far cheaper only to fly in the summer. The report said they have reduced the target pax for the year by 2 million. That is 1.9 million that ryanair will not have to pay to fly. It will also make the load factor a lot better. The stock market has not liked the drop in load factor. Stronger enforcement of rules means that £9.99 fares must be the all in price. This makes it expensive to fill up excess capacity.
I am sure that 7 planes is only an average. We would need to look at the flying programme to see if is more on some days and less on others. It is also possbile that some get parked up at other bases and more get sold on. I am sure MOL would like to sell 20 planes each september. get 30 new ones each May and make a profit on each sale.
I am sure that 7 planes is only an average. We would need to look at the flying programme to see if is more on some days and less on others. It is also possbile that some get parked up at other bases and more get sold on. I am sure MOL would like to sell 20 planes each september. get 30 new ones each May and make a profit on each sale.