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Old 17th Jul 2008, 06:31
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Gerona - Turin
That used to be operated by was cut. So good if it reappears.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 07:21
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...i thought the grounding was a pre cursor to redeploying the aircraft to the new Manchester base where apparently charges are much cheaper than Stansted ?
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 08:28
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Bermuda Triangle, it is far more likely that the airline you work for, assuming you do, rather than RYR, is no longer with us in two years time. RYR do not 'rely' on any subsidies but strive, as all good businesses do, to extract the most favorable rates from their suppliers, in this case, the airports.
The grounded aircraft will not be sitting idle for the winter, they will be generating a very tidy sum when leased to the Asian carriers that are crying out for short deliveries on new aircraft.
When other airlines are reducing capacity, raising fuel surcharges, yet again, raising prices and canceling routes, RYR is opening new routes, new bases and training newcomers as fast as ever.
Hardly the sign of a company on its knees, which I imagine is what so many of you might wish to see.
You will be disappointed, one way or another!
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 08:55
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When other airlines are reducing capacity, raising fuel surcharges, yet again, raising prices and canceling routes, RYR is opening new routes, new bases and training newcomers as fast as ever.
Yep. From difficulty very often comes opportunity (for some airlines, anyway). Think back to what happened after 11th September: Ryanair, easyJet and Southwest were still growing (in terms of new routes and aircraft and consequently staff numbers), acquiring excellent deals from aircraft manufacturers, etc.

Special anna.aero briefing: Capacity and route reductions provide opportunities for niche carriers (and LCCs) | anna.aero

Ryanair has, of course, been tweeking upwards some of its fee-for-service ancillary streams, particularly its card fee and excess baggage charges. Ancillary revenue does, of course, supplement flight ticket (primary) revenue.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 10:00
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...nice new destinations map (microsoft silverlight) on the website....the older version was a little clearer to me though!

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Old 17th Jul 2008, 10:25
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But now you zoom into the map with the mouse wheel. That's great.
Also watch: Greece is on the map now!
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 10:30
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so is Australia and every country in the world!

doubt it means much
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 10:31
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USA is also in the map
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 11:05
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Great to see the new routes from Stansted! Tenerife and Malaga have been long overdue in my opinion. Ibiza and Madrid (already announced) will also make good new additions. Will be interesting to have Ryanair and easyJet going head to head on most of the Spanish flights.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 11:15
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According to this report, flights into 7 airports will be suspended for 6 weeks this Winter.

Ryanair to stop flights to seven airports this winter | BreakingNews.ie

Now, one of the airports listed is Valencia, which is a hub. Pretty drastic, No?

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Old 17th Jul 2008, 11:19
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same data on RTE.

to close a base for 6 weeks is pretty drastic but oil at 130 a barrell is pretty drastic too..
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 12:55
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Offically announced from STN (listed at the bottom of its STN reduction news article):

AGP 3x weekly 28th Oct
FUE 3x weekly 28th Oct
TFS 3x weekly 28th Oct
IBZ 3x weekly 28th Oct
KTW daily 27th Oct
BSL 3x weekly 21st Dec
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 13:26
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I don't think IBZ will work very well in the winter.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 13:42
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I have a flight booked EMA-VLC on 15th Dec, I looked on RYR web site but no news about it being cancelled (yet).
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 13:58
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The following are listed in FR's pull-down menu and are on its (new) route map:

ALC-LBA = 3x weekly
ALC-PMI = 3x weekly
GRO-IBZ = 3x weekly
GRO-LBA = 4x weekly
GRO-PMI = 4x weekly
GRO-TRN = 3x weekly
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 14:18
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So, BA decides to introduce Gatwick-Valencia flights whilst Ryanair suspends its Stansted-Valencia service from 4 November to 19 December! What a funny old world we live in!
On a more serious note, these cancellations will make me think very carefully in future about choosing Ryanair in case I, too, find flights cancelled once they've been booked (this is especially true for essential journeys or those involving non-refundable hotel bookings). I hope MOL reads this.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 16:13
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MOL is going to mess around lots of pax by pulling all the flights. next time they will book with someone else.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 16:16
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the locost airline business strategy is clearly falling apart and is in no way sustainable with the current economic factors in play.passengers must be very,very wary if booking ahead with ryanair,with the real possibility of having their travel plans thrown into chaos with route cancellations.no ammount of charges for check-in,hold baggage,priority boarding,undrinkable spirits in plastic sachets served with no ice onboard,will make up for the increase in fuel prices.added together,locost travel is no longer locost.all the passengers taking advantage of cheap fares to pop around europe on their days off,will no longer be passengers,as the very incentive,ie cheap travel,will have disappeared.i pity all those who bought holiday homes in the middle of nowhere,only accessible via airports we had never heard of,only to find the flights no longer exist,or cost 5 times more than this time last year.laying up aircraft due to pre-planned cancellations is one option,flying the others half empty will not be an option for long.tough times ahead for ryanair i believe.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 18:34
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What an utter load of rubbish! I think you'll find both EZY and RYR are most likely to whether the storm over your traditional carriers. Punters are feeling the pinch in Europe, as well as the States. They are going to be far more attracted by the low fares of LCC's, with no fuel surcharges etc. Yes they have to pay for a few extra things, but if they are wise and cautious then they'll get a cheaper fare generally than offered by a legacy carrier.

All airlines are reassessing their strategies, but you cannot say that RYR will suffer most, because they have proven that they quite clearly wont. They might only break even next year, however watch this space, others will lose money.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 19:28
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I recentally read that Ryanair are considering:

Gothenburg City 3x Weekly
Basel 4x Weekly
Malta 2x Weekly
Hamburg 4x Weekly
Reus 3x Weekly
Ibiza 2x Weekly

from EMA
Is this true, or should I keep on dreaming about expansion at EMA in the next few months... If they are considering it, wouldnt that be a definate 7th aircraft for EMA...
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