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Old 17th May 2007, 21:11
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The MD83 left Prestwick early tuesday with a positioning callsign dont know where,Travel Service 738 did the ACE yesterday and the Slovak went to Faro today both were here from Barcelona for the UEFA final dont know if the MD is coming back or not
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Im sure the MD has gone belly up somewhere

What im hearing is that LTE are rescuing pax from Faro to Prestwick and they are to do the PMA flights tomorrow if the MD is not back

The Slovak B757 is at Manston ( so I hear ) and is operating the Faro outbound ( should have been today ) very early in the morning after crew rest
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Old 17th May 2007, 22:46
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Cheers that explains the LTE at 0130,i knew this MD was going to cause seguro grief and the seasons only started they should have stuck with LTE/Spanair/Europa etc
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Relevance of posting about grass and weeds!

"Meanwhile, the grass grew higher and the weeds grew longer. And while they were all talking about the glorious future, it turned into a patch of derelict scrub. The End"
You boring man.......the grass will be cut and the weeds will be sprayed....thats what happens at airports...and in peoples gardens etc
move along ....theres nothing to see!
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Old 18th May 2007, 11:39
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'Move along.......there's nothing to see!'
You are so right!

In the meantime in today's Telegraph Business section it seems
that there is going to be some building at the Manston Business Park.
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Old 18th May 2007, 17:23
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Telegraph Business section it seems
that there is going to be some building at the Manston Business Park.
Hi all,
Is that the new Jet Engine building there on about? Think thats going to be built at the Manston Business Park not sure.

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Old 18th May 2007, 17:55
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Business Park

Yes......there is going to be an engine overhaul company moving onto the site.
No......the article in the telegraph is nothing as all to do with that. The full article, if you read it, is all about millions of pounds of investment from China being invested at the business park but no mention of the airport
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Old 19th May 2007, 08:28
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Grass = Hay

Manston has a policy of letting the grass grow long. It puts birds off landing on the airfield as they like to be able to look around when they're grounded. Local farmers do indeed use large tractors a couple of times a year to mow the airfield and produce hay. You can see it stacked all over the airfield if you happen to be driving through at the right time.
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Old 19th May 2007, 08:36
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GRASS

Just to educate some of the great unknowing, grass on an airport is in most cases, a managed commodity. There are contractors who will mow the product and use it as hay or silage, thus generating income for the airport.
There is also the question of bird control. Most birds do not like walking in grass that is too deep for them to poke their heads above it to look for danger, so grass is normally deliberately allowed to grow tall enough to hide the birds completely. That helps to prevent birds from gathering on airfields and is an aid to the prevention of bird strikes, thus aiding air safety.
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Old 19th May 2007, 08:39
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Twitcher

That's amazing, we must have been typing almost identical posts at the same time. Nice to see confirmation of my information from an independent source.
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Old 19th May 2007, 17:49
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Your imagination.
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Old 19th May 2007, 18:09
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Grass

Who would have thought that plain ordinary green grass would manage to stir up catflaps so much.
Here is a link to some CAA info on the subject of keeping grass long. Plenty more info out there if you look. As for the 'polluted' grass being fed to cattle you'll have to talk to a farmer.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/28/Compass...%20Page%20.pdf
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Old 19th May 2007, 18:31
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Cows infused with jet A1 which actually BBQ themselves , its genius i tell ya !

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Old 19th May 2007, 19:16
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Exactly the same haymaking operation goes on at our place and a nice little earner it is to.

Our contractor used to sell it nearly exclusively to the stables at Newmarket, that was until it was found to contain a miniscule amount of "aviation pollutant" (fuel to you and I).
Since then, it's had to sold elsewhere, ironic though, you'd have thought it would have made the neddies go faster....
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Old 19th May 2007, 19:18
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Poor catflaps.

Obviously not a son of the soil. I would rather eat meat from cattle grazing off hay or silage grown next to Manston's runway than silage cut from
fields next to the M 25!

A couple of flights a week is hardly Chernobyl!

In any case I should imagine most of it goes to feed the horsey world, so if anyone should worry about their cutlets, it's the French!!
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Old 19th May 2007, 19:26
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GRASS

Catflaps

Just to satisfy you that grass management is not a figment of my 30 years aviation experience, have a look at the CAA website. Go to "Publications" and download CAP 772 Birdstrike Risk Management for Aerodromes. As they say, read all about it.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP772.pdf
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Old 20th May 2007, 07:54
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Cutting the grass

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"Exactly the same haymaking operation goes on at our place and a nice little earner it is to."

Totally agree - used to work with the contractor who did LPL and MAN (amongst many other places) and then turned the grass into animal feed (and claimed an EU subsidy for doing so...).
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Old 21st May 2007, 13:42
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o, and catflaps. I thought you was in the know with how airports are run.
You continually suggest the management at is getting it all wrong and how certain deals are hearsay to the supporters.
What planet are you from and rubbish do you talk!
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Old 21st May 2007, 14:26
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Shouldn't this thread be in Jet Blast?

Or did it get thrown out from there?
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Old 21st May 2007, 15:30
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OK, let us put this into perspective.

The majority of us would hope that Manston does well and succeeds as a commercial enterprise.
The "Old and cynical" amongst us have seen airlines and airports come and go, I personally would love to see any UK aviation enterprise do well and be a success, not particularly for the owners, but mostly for the local people.

I for one, as has been said, would love to be proved wrong, but I can't see that the current owners can continue to pump money in with no realistic return in the forseeable future.

Infratril are not Ryanair,BP or BAT, they don't have unlimited funding or the ability to cross subsidise and I think we have to realistic.

Lets hope all will come to fruition and keep the place going, perhaps, unlike the previous hopeless shower, the current Investors are in a position whereby it would cost more to pull out than stay there for the long term, I don't know, nor do I suspect does anyone here.

Good luck anyway.
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