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Old 6th May 2007, 06:41
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Ah, the night freight flights - should make the natives restless?

On a different issue what happened to Infratil's three year plan or was it a five year one...we have so many to choose from - and now we have a 20 year plan? This must be a/the business plan of which the local authority is awaiting to resolve the 106 agreement?

One wonders if it (the 20 year plan) covers the substantial costs of meeting the Environmental Agencies issues?
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Old 6th May 2007, 10:15
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Yes, unfortunately the Conservatives held Thanet. However, their lack of a manifesto means there is no commitment to policy for the airport, but they are generally supportive of development. Also, four years till the next election means there is plenty of time for rants about alleged noise and pollution to die down.

Turning to freight performance, I have been concerned about the switch of MKA128 on Sundays to Ostend, and of course MKA117, which ran on Mondays from Manston to Lagos for a few months, has now reverted to Ostend. I've been told by an employee that MK loads per flight are up, so perhaps the total tonnage has not declined too much. Also, last week there were two MK flights direct to Accra. Is this a new flow or a one-off?

Can any of our fire chiefs help? How is MK throughput going?

Meanwhile, the confidential rumours rumble on. I know of one passenger and two freight prospects that are being worked on. Not next week, or the week after, but they are seriously worthwhile and will take a lot of preparation.

BTW, it was the previous owners of Prestwick that developed its relationship with Ryanair. I think Infratil have found it to be a bit of a problem.
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The 13th May flight is sold out, and the 24th June flight has only one seat left. No sign of the rumoured extra departure.
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I met a chap, who dropped off his mother, On the first Faro flight she was not happy 1 1/2 hours late anyone know why. he said the plane came in on time.
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Old 11th May 2007, 09:03
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I heard that the delay was due to local training, although I'm not sure how true that is and who was being trained.
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I believe there wasn't any catering arranged for this flight and the crew wasn't going to depart without any.

A local shop done a good trade that day..
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Old 11th May 2007, 09:26
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I can see it now.....'Who wants the Monster Munch? ... Scotch egg?'
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"I believe there wasn't any catering arranged for this flight and the crew wasn't going to depart without any. A local shop done a good trade that day.."

Catering is all down to the holiday company and the airline to arrange....the airport staff at MSE did everyone a big favour that day by arranging supplies.
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Old 11th May 2007, 10:58
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Catering

Catering for the first 2 flights should have been provided in PIK however the operator had not finalised the deal with Alpha.

For the Faro flight the airport staff rallied around to provide sandwiches at the last minute. For the next flight again nothing loaded in PIK but the airport staff had more notice and were able to arrange something locally. Sunday's flight was catered by Alpha in PIK.

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Old 11th May 2007, 13:05
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Hi all sorry if this in the wrong place,
The Sally B is set to arrive at Kent International Airport, known as RAF Manston in its military days, at around midday on Sunday and, weather permitting, will fly several circuits around the airport.
Read more here http://www.kentinternationalairport-...ngFortress.asp


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Old 12th May 2007, 17:06
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Hi all just been reading the KM ( Kent Messager) about the new Kent escape flights, anyway at the bottom it says
New Manager Matt Clake did not rule out a rumoured deal with Ryanair
So I was wondering is Ryanair coming to MSE?

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Old 14th May 2007, 08:56
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Infratil statements

March - April
Correction: The stated March figure of 2,431 tonnes excluded a number of ad-hoc freight movements. The correct figure was a pleasing 2,610 tonnes.

In April, Kent International handled 2,205 tonnes of freight, nearly 80% up on the prior year. While this is 18% down on the correct March figure, reflecting lower fresh produce volumes from Africa as the UK and Europe growing season accelerates, it is 79% higher than the same month last year.

The level of freight growth at KIA is generally very strong, given IATA's recently reporting global freight growth of 2.3% for the year ending March 2007.
One particularly notable shipment of freight arrived during the month, when two Atlas Air 747s arrived with racing cars and other equipment belonging to A1GP.

INFRATIL AIRPORTS EUROPE (IAE) 2006-7
IAE's three airports recorded 3.1 million passenger movements and 56,500 tonnes of freight. Management remain focussed on attracting additional carriers and doing so on profitable terms. The European aviation market continues to grow markedly and Infratil remains confident as to its strategic positioning. EBITDA for IAE was a loss of £0.3 million (profit of £0.6 million) while its net contribution was a loss of NZ$20 million ($7million). The results were consistent with forecasts.

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The acquisition of Manston and Lübeck keeps the group in deficit. I note the use of “profitable terms” and remain sceptical of any Ryanair incursion at Manston; I could be wrong.

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Old 14th May 2007, 18:45
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Q.What would make him unhappy?

A. If the board of Directors and advisers listened to all the negative comments on this board.

Certainly he cant be unhappy at a freight growth of 80%

There has been a lot of guessing at the losses being incurred at MSE and Lubeck.

The Infratil 2006 report stated a £4.3 Mill profit at PIK but this was reduced for European Airports to a £2.5 Mill Loss

Infratil Airports Europe report for 2007 shows a loss of £300K. So last year the 3 airports lost £2.5Mill and this year they lost £300k. This surely suggests that if PIK stayed flat at £4.3 Mill Profit, between MSE and Lubeck they lost £4 Mill which obviously nowhere near the £5Mill being suggested as a loss figure for Manston alone.

I am sure the other side will dispute my maths but at least there will be some action on this board.

PS Newmarket Travel flight to Verona on Sunday was full with 180 pax, also full from Verona back to Aberdeen.

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Old 15th May 2007, 08:41
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But Infratil's European airports division reported an ebitda loss of $1.9 million, compared with earnings of $1.4 million the year before, and a net loss of $20 million. "We believe we can turn all three (Glasgow Prestwick, Kent and Lubeck) into substantive airports," Mr Morrison said. "I think we are making some progress but it's a long, hard, slow job."

NZ dollars, of course
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Old 17th May 2007, 17:22
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I take it the B757 is taking over from the Skywings Mad Dog today as its clapped out some where

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Old 17th May 2007, 17:53
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And the crew on it are out of hours! Tension building in the departures lounge.
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Old 17th May 2007, 18:41
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DAS Air Z-ALT

Das Air DC10 Departed for JKT today now operated by Aviant.

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Old 17th May 2007, 18:43
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"Meanwhile, the grass grew higher and the weeds grew longer. And while they were all talking about the glorious future, it turned into a patch of derelict scrub. The End"

The men with strimmers were busy yesterday!!
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Old 17th May 2007, 19:22
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My contact tells me that the Faro pax are going no where today

Is this true

If so what happens now

Looks like the 757 is positioning to PIK for the PMA flight tomorrow
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Old 17th May 2007, 20:26
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Avient

Das Air DC10 Departed for JKT today now operated by Aviant
Almost............sprung a pinhole fuel leak on pushback. Spares ordered, try again tomorrow
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