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Old 27th Aug 2007, 17:47
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This weekend has seen two MK flights, and the rumour is that they're going to go to 4 per week. EgyptAir are having a weather-break, but will return soon, and we're all waiting for the second Cargolux service to start.
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Old 30th Aug 2007, 11:00
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SEERA report

If we read through the Humphrey-speak we find an interesting move in the Regional Assembly's views on...wait for it...Manston

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1.24 The Government published its White Paper on Aviation in December 2003
– the Future of Aviation – following consultation on the South East and East
of England Regional Air Services Study.

The White Paper provides a national context for the development of airport
capacity over the next 30 years.

1.25 The Regional Assembly has undertaken its own research on this vision. In light of this research it has serious concerns about the implication of the Aviation White Paper for the region.The very high levels of aviation traffic growth forecast in the White Paper, much higher than forecasts for other modes of transport, would require levels of development and surface
movement which will be very difficult to accommodate, especially in the already congested, over-heated and polluted area around Heathrow.The research demonstrates that the environmental and social impact of a third runway and sixth terminal at Heathrow, and a second runway and third terminal at Gatwick, will be even greater than those set out in the Aviation White Paper.

1.26 The research also concludes that such scale of development would imply levels of emissions and other impacts that would be unacceptable to the
Government’s own national Sustainable Development Strategy, and its energy and transport policies.The Assembly therefore does not consider that at the present time it would be appropriate to include proposals for further expansion at either Heathrow or Gatwick in the Plan, beyond those already provided for under planning agreements.

1.27 The Government has an ongoing programme of work examining the
environmental implications of further growth at Heathrow.This work will not
be concluded until the latter part of 2006. On the basis that a decision on the way forward will require a further Ministerial decision to be made, the timing of which is uncertain, and that the implications of any such decision will impact only on the later stages of the Plan period, the South East Plan has been prepared on the basis of the current level of agreed growth at
Heathrow and Gatwick.The situation will be reviewed in light of any future
Ministerial decision, should one be made, or as part of the first review of the Plan, whichever comes first.

SECTION D4

1.28 The Aviation White Paper highlighted the important role that regional airports can play in providing access to air services that reduces the pressure on the international hub airports.This emphasis is strongly supported by the Assembly, and, indeed, it believes the Government should have given more overall emphasis to the potential of regional airports. In addition to the potential previously identified for Southampton Airport, the potential of Kent International (Manston) Airport to fulfil a significant role as a regional airport is now acknowledged, but other airports in the region are not considered to have strategic potential.

POLICY T9:
AIRPORTS
Relevant regional strategies, Local Development Documents and Local
Transport Plans will include policies and proposals that:

i Support the development of Gatwick and Heathrow Airports within currently
agreed levels of growth

ii Encourage Southampton Airport to sustain and enhance its role as an airport of regional significance

iii Support an enhanced role for Kent International Airport as an airport of
regional significance.
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Old 30th Aug 2007, 14:30
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I see then Lydd is not being considered for further development
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Old 30th Aug 2007, 17:04
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Unfortunately SEERA is still subject to Government policy and the aviation white paper which supports substantial development at LGW and LHR.

Anyone with an interest should look at the "examination in public" of the SEERA draft report carried out by the "Government office for the South-East"

Among many other things is a recommendation that policy T9 is amended in line with the aviation white paper, and that opinion was divided within SEERA itself about this issue ("strong views were expressed at the examination"!)

Some quotes-

"It was argued there should be a presumption against aviation expansion in the region due to clear adverse environmental impacts"

However, balancing this with economic needs,

"We heard no convincing evidence against keeping open the option to provide an additional runway at Gatwick, which in any event is already safguarded in the emerging Crawley LDF."

Apparantly LHR does not lie within the region covered by SEERA.

The examiners report did not refer to Manston.

It would seem that despite attempts by SEERA to plug MSE in preference to LGW/LHR, central government is no more interested in Manston than is the travelling public.
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Old 2nd Sep 2007, 11:08
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The Old Control Tower - and that area

Away from the subject but who owns and uses the old control tower and does the airport own the area surrounding the 747 (destressed looking one). On the subject I fear you will be lucky to see any action on the development front.
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Old 2nd Sep 2007, 13:29
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The old control tower and surrounding portakabins are currently used as offices for most of the current staff.

The 747 should be broken up soon hopefully.
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 18:50
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Rumours

Rumours are rumours. Presumably, what is actually meant here is that planning have not received any proposals thus far. That does not necessarily mean that Infratil do not have plans for the future development of KIA.
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 21:10
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Applications....

Everything is in place at present to run the airport and as no announcements have yet been made about a major increase in services for next season why make any changes that would reply planning permission.
With regard to the fuel farm and other rumoured building works etc, these may have already been discussed or applied for with the council and may not count as 'new' planning applications to affect the 106 anyway.
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Old 6th Sep 2007, 12:19
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so wat , spring cleaning early this year, not before time,BUTwhy? some one out there must no whats going on .my self ,at last i am using Manston to fly to Portugal, after three time changes.
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Old 6th Sep 2007, 13:46
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The S106 agreement was discussed at the beginning of this thread, and the exact point made that a S106 agreement could not be renewed without a planning application to apply it too. Maybe the Council have been reading this thread!
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Old 6th Sep 2007, 14:30
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Smile Planning Applications

I note that there is a planning application submitted by Kent International Airport, in August of this year, for a new electrical sub-station. It's the only current one I can see!
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Old 6th Sep 2007, 15:15
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ChrisGr31 - "Maybe the council have been reading this thread".

Not possible.

Thanet council is made up of lower order primates who cannot read.
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Old 6th Sep 2007, 16:25
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Thanet district council

Davedee. Not happy with trashing Infratil, you also enjoy slandering TDC? I am not sure what line of business you are involved in but I take it with your tone and language that it is not too proffessional?
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Old 6th Sep 2007, 16:38
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There's only one "f" in professional.
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Old 6th Sep 2007, 18:26
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This thead must win the award for the most talked about airport with the least actually said.
Sorry mods, but I read this thread thinking and hoping there are some new developments. But its the same nothing been talked about again and again.
I hope EGMH doe's have a place, but why keep talking about whats not happening and the odd aircraft movement and wait for some real news.......If it happens. ....
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Old 6th Sep 2007, 20:03
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Echo your sentiments entirely, BtB !
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Old 6th Sep 2007, 21:57
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Personally I like hearing about the odd aircraft movement as it gives me hope that on the infrequent occasions I drive past the aircraft I'll see an aircraft apparently going through the fields!
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Old 11th Sep 2007, 12:37
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All happening today then . . .

New-looking MK parked alongside Cargolux, biz jets flying out, helicoptors taking off, light aircraft activity, it almost seemed like it was a real airport for a while.
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Old 11th Sep 2007, 18:24
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I wonder if we're starting to see a vague upturn in money earning activity. I suppose every penny counts. Even the little ones count.
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Old 11th Sep 2007, 18:33
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No.

MK do make the occasional drop.

Today it happened to coincide with the regular Tuesday Cargolux arrival.

The little A/C have always been here.
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