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Hi guys
I hope everyone is ok, just read on the BHX thread that EZY are doing a couple of winter specials Geneva and grenoble, i hope this is not a sign that EZY may go into BHX permently !!!!!!
Are they doing this as a tester to see how it goes ?
I am very suprised still after all the years they have been operating out of EMA that they have not really expanded, could be FR and WW are proving to much and that EZY are thinking, BHX, the UK's 2 nd largest city,more of a catchment area etc........
Does anyone have a view on this or do they know anything more ?
Take care all
I hope everyone is ok, just read on the BHX thread that EZY are doing a couple of winter specials Geneva and grenoble, i hope this is not a sign that EZY may go into BHX permently !!!!!!
Are they doing this as a tester to see how it goes ?
I am very suprised still after all the years they have been operating out of EMA that they have not really expanded, could be FR and WW are proving to much and that EZY are thinking, BHX, the UK's 2 nd largest city,more of a catchment area etc........
Does anyone have a view on this or do they know anything more ?
Take care all
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Ryanair are also launching Shannon from BHX & increasing the frequency to Dublin (I think BHX will have more flights to DUB than EMA when this happens?) but it doesn't mean that RYR are looking to decamp down the M42.
Both EZY & RYR having masses of aircraft on order which they have to put somewhere & with the loss of BA Connect, Birmingham is obviously an ideal destination for both airlines.
FC
Both EZY & RYR having masses of aircraft on order which they have to put somewhere & with the loss of BA Connect, Birmingham is obviously an ideal destination for both airlines.
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Oh thats good then, well lets keep fingers crossed, i wouldn't like to see EZY dissapear down the road, but at the end of the day EZY may fancy a change but i do hope they give EMA a few new routes.
Take care
Oh thats good then, well lets keep fingers crossed, i wouldn't like to see EZY dissapear down the road, but at the end of the day EZY may fancy a change but i do hope they give EMA a few new routes.
Take care
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Ezy @ Bhx
Being a BHX fan of course I am made up that they have decided to operate but lets not get carried away its just two ski routes operated on a W pattern, as per their operations into BOH which I believe are also seasonal - much as I would love an Easy UK base at BHX I doubt very much that either EZY or FR will decamp completely from NEMA but I can see both expanding at BHX because there is a lot of unserved routes with commercial potential and management have finally woken up and realised the competitive threat of recent expansion at NEMA. Just like Baby operates from both airports why not EZY and FR - remember theres an awful lot of people in the West Mids for which NEMA is a long drive especially anyone west of Bham - I reckon there's enough demand for FR, EZY and WW at both airports providing theres no massive and unnecessary route or frequency duplication.
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Good Morning
Well not been on here for a while, as i have been very busy with my role and home life.
So, firstly hello to everyone who knows me, and for the new ones, Hello, i am Maria.
Well what a shock this week, with EZY having 2 x flights to BHX.
I have predicted this for a very long time and this was a rumour a few years ago about EZY transferring all services from EMA to BHX.
I have worked for EZY for several years, so i do feel i have the right to make a comment.
EMA is a lovely base and does VERY well, our routes are boring, nothing new ever comes except we got the summer special last year doing the Chavvy Ibiza.
We lost our domestics, remember we use to do GLA and EDI, oh the good olde days.
Well i think that EZY will eventually go to BHX all together, as EMA is a very expensive to operate from and there is too much competition now, with Thomsonfly, FR and WW, and EZY does like to make things Big ( Don't we all )
lol
But with BHX, the only lo-co really there are Monarch and WW, so EZY could go in there and make it super BIG, i think the winter routes will be a taster to see how it goes, if it does go well, they will just move from EMA and down the M42.
Our cabin base manager, who is from the Birmingham area has never looked so happier this week, as i think she knows she will be moving back to her home area of the West Mids, alright for her, but what about the crew who live in Derby, Notts and futher ?
So i will go now, but like i say, watch this space, i am sure this time next year,EZY will be at BHX full time.
Take care and i do hope i will see you on a flight soon.
Maria
Well not been on here for a while, as i have been very busy with my role and home life.
So, firstly hello to everyone who knows me, and for the new ones, Hello, i am Maria.
Well what a shock this week, with EZY having 2 x flights to BHX.
I have predicted this for a very long time and this was a rumour a few years ago about EZY transferring all services from EMA to BHX.
I have worked for EZY for several years, so i do feel i have the right to make a comment.
EMA is a lovely base and does VERY well, our routes are boring, nothing new ever comes except we got the summer special last year doing the Chavvy Ibiza.
We lost our domestics, remember we use to do GLA and EDI, oh the good olde days.
Well i think that EZY will eventually go to BHX all together, as EMA is a very expensive to operate from and there is too much competition now, with Thomsonfly, FR and WW, and EZY does like to make things Big ( Don't we all )
lol
But with BHX, the only lo-co really there are Monarch and WW, so EZY could go in there and make it super BIG, i think the winter routes will be a taster to see how it goes, if it does go well, they will just move from EMA and down the M42.
Our cabin base manager, who is from the Birmingham area has never looked so happier this week, as i think she knows she will be moving back to her home area of the West Mids, alright for her, but what about the crew who live in Derby, Notts and futher ?
So i will go now, but like i say, watch this space, i am sure this time next year,EZY will be at BHX full time.
Take care and i do hope i will see you on a flight soon.
Maria
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Maria,
Welcome back.
Just to make you aware, EMA is expensive but BHX is considerably more. Unless EZY are getting a big discount, i dont see them uprooting and going to BHX as a full base move. It would be economic suicide. if the EMA routes are performing well and making the company money, they arent going to upsticks. EMA and BHX could work together for EasyJet even tho im not bothered about BHX in anyway. Havent flown from there since 1990.
If EZY move they will lose alot of loyal customers from the East Midlands.
Welcome back.
Just to make you aware, EMA is expensive but BHX is considerably more. Unless EZY are getting a big discount, i dont see them uprooting and going to BHX as a full base move. It would be economic suicide. if the EMA routes are performing well and making the company money, they arent going to upsticks. EMA and BHX could work together for EasyJet even tho im not bothered about BHX in anyway. Havent flown from there since 1990.
If EZY move they will lose alot of loyal customers from the East Midlands.
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Hello
Well lets hope it does not happen, Like you do say, EZY has a very loyal and very supportive fan base in the East midlands, all we need is new routes in order to compete with FR TOM and WW.
Well if one does find any futher information, i will let you know ASAP.
Maria
Well lets hope it does not happen, Like you do say, EZY has a very loyal and very supportive fan base in the East midlands, all we need is new routes in order to compete with FR TOM and WW.
Well if one does find any futher information, i will let you know ASAP.
Maria
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EZY
Hello Miss EZY
Yeh I agree it would be a shame if EZY moved from EMA, and thats coming from someone who works for FR. I would like to see more new routes from EZY.
Not sure about the competition issue between FR and EZY, both tend to do different routes. I don't like EZY likes a fight on its hands,, ie GLA and EDI. And if you look at the average cost of paid by each pax for a seat is less on FR than EZY. "Easyjet’s so called guarantee isn’t worth the paper it is written on because it deliberately avoids comparison with Ryanair on 274 of its 280 routes".
Just out of interest I wouldn't mind knowing both FR and EZY loads on the EMA-CIA now both flights are about the same time.
Anyway talking of people moving down the road, if anyone I would of thought it would of been WW
Yeh I agree it would be a shame if EZY moved from EMA, and thats coming from someone who works for FR. I would like to see more new routes from EZY.
Not sure about the competition issue between FR and EZY, both tend to do different routes. I don't like EZY likes a fight on its hands,, ie GLA and EDI. And if you look at the average cost of paid by each pax for a seat is less on FR than EZY. "Easyjet’s so called guarantee isn’t worth the paper it is written on because it deliberately avoids comparison with Ryanair on 274 of its 280 routes".
Just out of interest I wouldn't mind knowing both FR and EZY loads on the EMA-CIA now both flights are about the same time.
Anyway talking of people moving down the road, if anyone I would of thought it would of been WW
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Hello Dum
Nice to hear from a fellow crew member, Well oads on the CIA are still very good, last week i operated the CIA and had 139 out and 146 back, so i think that is good, saying we have the Airbus.
We have always done extremely well on this, mind you on all flights we operate we do very well, our top performer must be the CGN as this is always full.
Oh yes EZY does like a fight, and i am sure eventualy WW will move as they have been pushed out by the FR brigade, and about time too!!!!
I think EZY will move as they want a change and to stamp there mark.
Maria
Nice to hear from a fellow crew member, Well oads on the CIA are still very good, last week i operated the CIA and had 139 out and 146 back, so i think that is good, saying we have the Airbus.
We have always done extremely well on this, mind you on all flights we operate we do very well, our top performer must be the CGN as this is always full.
Oh yes EZY does like a fight, and i am sure eventualy WW will move as they have been pushed out by the FR brigade, and about time too!!!!
I think EZY will move as they want a change and to stamp there mark.
Maria
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Maria...
You think that Baby have been pushed out by O'Learys cowboys?
Think again. EMA is WW home base and as long as there are bmi and baby a/c flying the skies, there will be a presence at EMA.
Now whether that be one a/c or 21 a/c, it's irrelevant (sic).
Room for EZY FR and WW at both bases, if needs be.
Nothing like a bit of healthy competition, eh?
You think that Baby have been pushed out by O'Learys cowboys?
Think again. EMA is WW home base and as long as there are bmi and baby a/c flying the skies, there will be a presence at EMA.
Now whether that be one a/c or 21 a/c, it's irrelevant (sic).
Room for EZY FR and WW at both bases, if needs be.
Nothing like a bit of healthy competition, eh?
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Ezy Ema/bhx
No comments on Easy's choice of destination from BHX?
I know people who have used the EMA service from the West Mids, isn't
there a danger of diluting yields? I know Ryanair have done exactly the
same with Shannon and with so many "holes" in the BHX route network
surely better routes could have been chosen?
Don't get me wrong, I am extremely happy at the Easy announcement
but out of the three slot requests, Geneva I thought was the least likely.
I have always been amazed at Easy's EMA load factors especially
Cologne (compared to HLX at BHX), Venice and Rome but the lack
of growth at EMA makes one think that not much money is or has
been made.
Suddenly though it all looks very good for the Midlands.
My hope is that EMA have FR and BHX have Easy with baby at both.
Pete
I know people who have used the EMA service from the West Mids, isn't
there a danger of diluting yields? I know Ryanair have done exactly the
same with Shannon and with so many "holes" in the BHX route network
surely better routes could have been chosen?
Don't get me wrong, I am extremely happy at the Easy announcement
but out of the three slot requests, Geneva I thought was the least likely.
I have always been amazed at Easy's EMA load factors especially
Cologne (compared to HLX at BHX), Venice and Rome but the lack
of growth at EMA makes one think that not much money is or has
been made.
Suddenly though it all looks very good for the Midlands.
My hope is that EMA have FR and BHX have Easy with baby at both.
Pete
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EZY at EMA is making alot of money for them, with very high loads. I really don't know why it hasn't expanded. But where could it expand to from EMA without going into competition from FR or WW?
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Maria, would you care to explain why it's about time bmibaby moved out of East Midlands? Just for a bit of history, the parent company was the very first airline to fly into EMA, bmibaby were the first based low-cost airline and our head offices are on the airport site. There's plenty of people at this company who have put a lot of effort into making the bmi group what it is today, and such bitchy comments are not appreciated. Gripe over!
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Hi
BMIbaby were not the first lo cost airline at EMA, it was infact Go, as i worked for them, when they announced operations from EMA, BMIbaby then jumped in after !
I worked for Go and Ezy myself, and they are indeed a very good company, i think personally EZY will try and fly Bhx and Ema, but if Bhx does prove to be a hit, then maybe, i said Maybe they could move, but like someone has said, Ezy has a very loyal fan base at Ema.
Bmibaby have not really done much at Ema have they really ?
The same standard routes, nothing new etc.... but i cannot quote as i do not work for them, but from a pax point it looks like BMIbaby are not doing much< as is the same for eZY.
Hi Marie, hope you are well, and take care all
BMIbaby were not the first lo cost airline at EMA, it was infact Go, as i worked for them, when they announced operations from EMA, BMIbaby then jumped in after !
I worked for Go and Ezy myself, and they are indeed a very good company, i think personally EZY will try and fly Bhx and Ema, but if Bhx does prove to be a hit, then maybe, i said Maybe they could move, but like someone has said, Ezy has a very loyal fan base at Ema.
Bmibaby have not really done much at Ema have they really ?
The same standard routes, nothing new etc.... but i cannot quote as i do not work for them, but from a pax point it looks like BMIbaby are not doing much< as is the same for eZY.
Hi Marie, hope you are well, and take care all
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OMG its a business not or well baby was nice to the airport in early days. Its simple you have to make pax want to fly with you. I mean look at your routes, all the domestic routes are down on last years numbers, your a/c are old, too few of them at EMA, yet again today PAX have long delays. Things like these problems along with the cost which will drive baby out of EMA. Customers want value for money!
Only ever be two major low cost airlines in the UK FR and EZY, speaking of which what was WW profits last year?
Only ever be two major low cost airlines in the UK FR and EZY, speaking of which what was WW profits last year?
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Its just a username i use for a joke with my friends, i actually have a chemistry degree from st andrews so im far from dumb, further more the forum is for EMA not for personal comments. Guess I might of touched a raw nerve.
At the end of the day pax should be given:
Value for money
Flights on time
Clean a/c
And not many cancelled flights
And if Tiny Town can not get this right well then you should re-think what business your in. Its simple! Pax do have a choice who to fly with now days, and we all have to work very hard to say in business, and its something that FR and EZY have done very well.
Lee
At the end of the day pax should be given:
Value for money
Flights on time
Clean a/c
And not many cancelled flights
And if Tiny Town can not get this right well then you should re-think what business your in. Its simple! Pax do have a choice who to fly with now days, and we all have to work very hard to say in business, and its something that FR and EZY have done very well.
Lee
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ok, well, let's have a look at the list:
Value for money: er........ yes Baby are! I feel we give good service.
Flights on time: ok, this is your only good point, we do have a few tech issues, but MOST flights go and arrive ontime, if not early!
Clean Aircraft: er........ yes! Although I'm sure sometimes after coming off a Med route it's dirty, but what do you expect us crew to do in 30mins?? I'm sure FR and EZY have the same problems.
and not many cancelled flights: er....... yes again!! We don't cancel flights unless we really have to!
So basically the point you made don't really back up your argument!
But then, I'm sorry I did forget that Ryanair are sooooo perfect at everything they do!!
Value for money: er........ yes Baby are! I feel we give good service.
Flights on time: ok, this is your only good point, we do have a few tech issues, but MOST flights go and arrive ontime, if not early!
Clean Aircraft: er........ yes! Although I'm sure sometimes after coming off a Med route it's dirty, but what do you expect us crew to do in 30mins?? I'm sure FR and EZY have the same problems.
and not many cancelled flights: er....... yes again!! We don't cancel flights unless we really have to!
So basically the point you made don't really back up your argument!
But then, I'm sorry I did forget that Ryanair are sooooo perfect at everything they do!!