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call100,
I am as much a plod as you have anything worth listening to.
Only one 'if' there old chap, please read other posts before a reply.
kro74,
If BHX was concerned about aesthetics and customer satisfaction, I'm sure it would have been sorted by now. It hasn't, so what does that tell us?
I am as much a plod as you have anything worth listening to.
Only one 'if' there old chap, please read other posts before a reply.
kro74,
If BHX was concerned about aesthetics and customer satisfaction, I'm sure it would have been sorted by now. It hasn't, so what does that tell us?
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One or two Union Flags on the top of the terminal buildings would make the place look nice too (as well as reminding passengers which country they have arrived in as it can be a little confusing at certain times of day).
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Ha! Ha! Bring it on. I don't suppose you have an answer to the question regarding the relocation of the Police helecopter unit do you?
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I don't suppose you have an answer to the question regarding the relocation of the Police helecopter unit do you?
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I don't suppose you have an answer to the question regarding the relocation of the Police helecopter unit do you?
And when you learn to spell helicopter correctly, I might tell you !
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HnH,
When you learn to abbreviate 'will not' correctly, I may also let you in on it!
When you learn to abbreviate 'will not' correctly, I may also let you in on it!
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Hopefully it will take the bickering plod from this thread with it!
Hopefully it will take the bickering plod from this thread with it!
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Looking at the gyrocopter debacle, what exactly is the remit of the plods on (the whole) site at BHX? Do they actually do anything semi-useful apart from traffic control?
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I wondered when the old plod bashing would take place... well guys just remember this. The sh*ts that took out the helicopter, be it that was their target or any aircraft that happened to be sitting there... call 100 seems to be one sighted on this...
That aircraft does not only chase the bad guys but as I have been informed by those that know.. It has been used on many instances when granny or grandpa have wandered off and have been located when they would have perished before being located by officers on the ground, then there are the times when the air ambo is either busy or not flying (they do not fly in the hours of darkness) that the police helicopter then reverts to a medi-vac role and lifts injured and life threatening case to hospital from the scene of accidents. I wonder how many lives this has cost while you lot moan about what plod does while his "toy" is bust??
I know a few who work at the helicopter and I can tell you they are working their nuts off driving to other bases so they can carry on doing their unsung work to cover the West Mids as best as possible using other air units helicopters, I wonder if they know they are appreciated so much, whilst they work through the night so the plod bashers can sleep easy...
As for relocating at BHX when they get their replacement (soon) They will move to somewhere that can provide security or at least do not hinder what security the Police wish to provide for themselves.
Call 100 your arguments at best are tedious and ill informed, you work off speculation and consider your view point the correct and only one.
I am sorry for those that think this BHX thread has been taken over by folk discussing G-WMAO and stopped chat about Air Mahon etc, but its a free forum and lets face it and maybe you can answer this Call 100...... What other major international airport in the uk, no Europe, has had a major incursion where an aircraft has been attacked and destroyed by fire???
Ummm interesting point that seems to pass most by....
Well Call 100 I hang on a thread for your next words of sublime expertise on this, I am sure I will like others be rivetted to my seat in anticipation of your words of wisdom....
That aircraft does not only chase the bad guys but as I have been informed by those that know.. It has been used on many instances when granny or grandpa have wandered off and have been located when they would have perished before being located by officers on the ground, then there are the times when the air ambo is either busy or not flying (they do not fly in the hours of darkness) that the police helicopter then reverts to a medi-vac role and lifts injured and life threatening case to hospital from the scene of accidents. I wonder how many lives this has cost while you lot moan about what plod does while his "toy" is bust??
I know a few who work at the helicopter and I can tell you they are working their nuts off driving to other bases so they can carry on doing their unsung work to cover the West Mids as best as possible using other air units helicopters, I wonder if they know they are appreciated so much, whilst they work through the night so the plod bashers can sleep easy...
As for relocating at BHX when they get their replacement (soon) They will move to somewhere that can provide security or at least do not hinder what security the Police wish to provide for themselves.
Call 100 your arguments at best are tedious and ill informed, you work off speculation and consider your view point the correct and only one.
I am sorry for those that think this BHX thread has been taken over by folk discussing G-WMAO and stopped chat about Air Mahon etc, but its a free forum and lets face it and maybe you can answer this Call 100...... What other major international airport in the uk, no Europe, has had a major incursion where an aircraft has been attacked and destroyed by fire???
Ummm interesting point that seems to pass most by....
Well Call 100 I hang on a thread for your next words of sublime expertise on this, I am sure I will like others be rivetted to my seat in anticipation of your words of wisdom....
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My point, although perhaps not put clearly, is what exactly do the on-site/dedicated police force do with regard to boundary security at BHX? Surely they have some responsibility for the security of their own aerial transport plus that of other operators? It is trespass plus criminal damage after all.
I seem to remember an idiot got over the boundary fence at LHR last year, onto an active runway, and caused chaos, plus Greenpeace got onto a 777 and draped the thing with banners (could say it was an aircraft attack, albeit without the fire!). Just shows that it's hard to secure any airfield completely.
I seem to remember an idiot got over the boundary fence at LHR last year, onto an active runway, and caused chaos, plus Greenpeace got onto a 777 and draped the thing with banners (could say it was an aircraft attack, albeit without the fire!). Just shows that it's hard to secure any airfield completely.
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I would say Greenpeace are a nuicance threat no more, they do not damage, but act illegally, entering an airport with the intention to destroy an aircraft by fire with no regard for those that may be in it or near it should a large explosion happen is more of a worry.....
Re Police and security, the main perimeter and airfield security is done by ICTS appointed by the airport on a "who is cheapest" option they are responsible for full security with police back up should it be required.
If the police did the security it would cost a lot more from the airports coffers but it would be better, ok nothing is 100% but as the saying goes...buy cheap pay twice.... The airport will argue they meet minimum securtiy standards as laid down by law. They do... It just shows how poor those standards are
Re Police and security, the main perimeter and airfield security is done by ICTS appointed by the airport on a "who is cheapest" option they are responsible for full security with police back up should it be required.
If the police did the security it would cost a lot more from the airports coffers but it would be better, ok nothing is 100% but as the saying goes...buy cheap pay twice.... The airport will argue they meet minimum securtiy standards as laid down by law. They do... It just shows how poor those standards are
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Volrider,
Factually there have been incursions that I can recall at Stansted, Heathrow and Manchester during daylight hours, granted there was no damage to aircraft but that's hardly the point, if someone wants to break in somewhere they can and will, I'm not privy to the exact security set up at the airport so I'm not going to pass comment or judgement but to infer that this is a BHX only issue is well wide of the mark imo.
Factually there have been incursions that I can recall at Stansted, Heathrow and Manchester during daylight hours, granted there was no damage to aircraft but that's hardly the point, if someone wants to break in somewhere they can and will, I'm not privy to the exact security set up at the airport so I'm not going to pass comment or judgement but to infer that this is a BHX only issue is well wide of the mark imo.
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there have been incursions that I can recall at Stansted, Heathrow and Manchester during daylight hours, granted there was no damage to aircraft but that's hardly the point, if someone wants to break in somewhere they can and will, I'm not privy to the exact security set up at the airport so I'm not going to pass comment or judgement but to infer that this is a BHX only issue is well wide of the mark imo
BHX are the only airport to lose an aircraft in such circumstances, when other airports fail as well to look after the aircraft they will also be under scrutiny. So in my honest opinion BHX do have questions to answer, but they will reply " we meet minimum security requirements" I refer to my previous post.
Untill those requirements are improved BHX and other airports will continue as they are.
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I know a few who work at the helicopter and I can tell you they are working their nuts off driving to other bases so they can carry on doing their unsung work to cover the West Mids as best as possible using other air units helicopters, I wonder if they know they are appreciated so much, whilst they work through the night so the plod bashers can sleep easy...
.... Such a vicious crime could happen to just about anyone these days
Vol - I wouldn't call it "unsung", I'd call it another example of the Excellent work of the Air Support Unit
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I can't imagine there is anyone who doesn't support the excellent work the Police Helicopter team do for the community. We also know very well how much of a difference they have made in aircraft incidents over the years because they happen to be based at BHX and were available. It would be a terrible day if they moved and I hope those who have the authority to do whatever it needs to ensure the police helicopter stays and stays safely are getting on with it right now.