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Astraus have been linked to the Kent Escapes routes and so I thought this might be the reason for the training.
However you are right most probably 737 and not 757, so it is probably only ad hoc training.
It would need to have found a different route when MK and the antonov were due today. Maybe this is what the complaints are about.
MDIS
However you are right most probably 737 and not 757, so it is probably only ad hoc training.
It would need to have found a different route when MK and the antonov were due today. Maybe this is what the complaints are about.
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...and in the same article - "A Greek-based low-cost carrier is also expected to make an announcement about cheap flights by the summer".
This isnt esperia in the media again is it?
This isnt esperia in the media again is it?
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Re: I'm a bit miserable at the minute and I could do with a good laugh......
you're always miserable!
and NO, that wasn't a personal attack, don't ask a mod for help, just a micky taking statement
you're always miserable!
and NO, that wasn't a personal attack, don't ask a mod for help, just a micky taking statement
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"Catflaps - Routing ain't Infratil or the councils responsibility! Its
the CAA/NATS/Zone ATC and finally the captain of an aircraft
job to find the safest route for a aircraft."
So, can I just check that I've got this right? The airport has agreed a set of flight routes with the local authority. These have been put onto maps, which are being handed out to members of the public who ask what the routes are. But the airport has no control over the flight routes and no means of means of ensuring that aircraft stick to them. Is Manston in controlled airspace?
the CAA/NATS/Zone ATC and finally the captain of an aircraft
job to find the safest route for a aircraft."
So, can I just check that I've got this right? The airport has agreed a set of flight routes with the local authority. These have been put onto maps, which are being handed out to members of the public who ask what the routes are. But the airport has no control over the flight routes and no means of means of ensuring that aircraft stick to them. Is Manston in controlled airspace?
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I did a post but it seems to have gone it had a link to a website that had what I think where the routes on landing rwy 10 and 28 and take off.Plus last sunday aircraft was a Oasis Hong Kong Airlines 747-400
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James
Regards
James
Knwone really answered my question..Join Date: Apr 2006
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Good to hear that Egyptair are starting back at MSE.Sorry to post this here but I cant find it on here if so please move it to right place: At one off my favorite Kent airfields yesterday a Plane crashed at Headcorn OY-JRR .The pilot has died from Head injurys report here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/6441333.stm
RIP
James
RIP
James
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Is that the Black Beaver Parachute club plane. Sorry cant be bothered to read the article.
Was down there about 4 days before this and i must say, with the benefit of hindsight, the pilot himself was touchy with his takeoff-s then. Perhaps he was ill or something. Flying even when your nose is runny is bad, trust me...
Was down there about 4 days before this and i must say, with the benefit of hindsight, the pilot himself was touchy with his takeoff-s then. Perhaps he was ill or something. Flying even when your nose is runny is bad, trust me...
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HI H9 yes it was the Black Beaver OY-JRR which the Parachute club have in during the Winter and In the Summer the Let 410.Yeah lets hope the AAIB find out what went wrong.
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"Wrong me old fruit, such procedures are formulated by the Airport and then approved by the CAA."
So, what you're saying is that the airport operator does have some influence over the routes which are flown by aircraft using the airport. It's noce when someone confirms that you were right all along.
So, what you're saying is that the airport operator does have some influence over the routes which are flown by aircraft using the airport. It's noce when someone confirms that you were right all along.
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Catflaps can we get over this routes business. It was a one off training fligh that quite frankly isnt happening anough even to bother the birds living on the runway approach lights! 
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"..can we get over this routes business. It was a one off training flight.."
I beg to differ. The routes being used around Manston, both for training and for other flights, frequently don't correlate with the route maps handed out by the local Council. I don't think it's remotely unreasonable for local people to want to know where the routes are supposed to be. I also don't think it's remotely unreasonable to want to know who's supposed to be in control of the situation. As previous posts from a variety of posters indicate, this is a matter of some confusion:
"So, who is to blame if Astraeus have violated the agreed routes
ATC?
Infratil?
Local Management?
Pilots?"
"Routing ain't Infratil or the councils responsibility! Its
the CAA/NATS/Zone ATC and finally the captain of an aircraft "
"Landing, departure and go-round procedures for Manston are issued by the CAA not the airport or the local authority."
So, it's everybody (or is that nobody) then?
I beg to differ. The routes being used around Manston, both for training and for other flights, frequently don't correlate with the route maps handed out by the local Council. I don't think it's remotely unreasonable for local people to want to know where the routes are supposed to be. I also don't think it's remotely unreasonable to want to know who's supposed to be in control of the situation. As previous posts from a variety of posters indicate, this is a matter of some confusion:
"So, who is to blame if Astraeus have violated the agreed routes
ATC?
Infratil?
Local Management?
Pilots?"
"Routing ain't Infratil or the councils responsibility! Its
the CAA/NATS/Zone ATC and finally the captain of an aircraft "
"Landing, departure and go-round procedures for Manston are issued by the CAA not the airport or the local authority."
So, it's everybody (or is that nobody) then?
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I don't wish to trivialise your concern over flight paths, but why don't you take this up with the airline or the airport instead of drawing out a subject on here which you are obviously not going to get a satisfactory answer to.
I don't wish to trivialise your concern over flight paths, but why don't you take this up with the airline or the airport instead of drawing out a subject on here which you are obviously not going to get a satisfactory answer to.