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You are correct, this was a 2 year arrangement and will not be happening this year.
I did say back in January not to bank on the Virginia Flights. It was almost certain back then that it wasn't going to be a runner.
MDIS
You are correct, this was a 2 year arrangement and will not be happening this year.
I did say back in January not to bank on the Virginia Flights. It was almost certain back then that it wasn't going to be a runner.
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Lets talk about something constructive......
On the topic of MK at MSE would it be correct to believe that Frequencys are to be brought up again?
So.....
Pax
Kentescapes - (which airline is flying the services?) 3x weekly?
Newmarket - several flights this year, any idea of A/C
Cargo
MK -How many flights a week?
DAS - What is the state of paly at MSE now they have their license in EU back?
Egypt Cargo - Disappeared recently as someone suggested due to there forwarder agreement breaking down?
Air atlanta - Any idea if they will return?
ANY OTHER PLANNED RUMOURS OF CARGO AIRLINES? - ???
Misc.
Radar -Any news on the radar, left our thoughts along time ago in this forum. What is the state of play?
Aprons - Pax apron repaired/overhauled, what about the Cargo area, what is the plans?
LEts talk airport instead of the admin side of things for a change, let the airport staff sort all that out.........
On the topic of MK at MSE would it be correct to believe that Frequencys are to be brought up again?
So.....
Pax
Kentescapes - (which airline is flying the services?) 3x weekly?
Newmarket - several flights this year, any idea of A/C
Cargo
MK -How many flights a week?
DAS - What is the state of paly at MSE now they have their license in EU back?
Egypt Cargo - Disappeared recently as someone suggested due to there forwarder agreement breaking down?
Air atlanta - Any idea if they will return?
ANY OTHER PLANNED RUMOURS OF CARGO AIRLINES? - ???
Misc.
Radar -Any news on the radar, left our thoughts along time ago in this forum. What is the state of play?
Aprons - Pax apron repaired/overhauled, what about the Cargo area, what is the plans?
LEts talk airport instead of the admin side of things for a change, let the airport staff sort all that out.........
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The transatlantic flghts I was refering to , is the splash and dash type of business, (one of PIK main areas of operation). As said the 'world' charter program is over.
H9 - Air Atlantla\XL are still at manston.
Newmarket flights are always 737.
H9 - Air Atlantla\XL are still at manston.
Newmarket flights are always 737.
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Hi Guys,
Just in regads to the Kent Escape Flights, and forgive me if this has been mentioned before but it would suggest that the flights are either on a "W pattern" with a particular uk airline or possibly a spannish airline as the timings of the flights suggest that the aircraft starts from overseas.
Just been looking on the website and it gives the times and just TBA as a flight number so i would say that maybe the flights haven't been confirmed and as we are now in march, thought they would of had these by now as the programme been on sale for a while and not that long to go before summer starts.
Anyone know anymore
Cheers
Just in regads to the Kent Escape Flights, and forgive me if this has been mentioned before but it would suggest that the flights are either on a "W pattern" with a particular uk airline or possibly a spannish airline as the timings of the flights suggest that the aircraft starts from overseas.
Just been looking on the website and it gives the times and just TBA as a flight number so i would say that maybe the flights haven't been confirmed and as we are now in march, thought they would of had these by now as the programme been on sale for a while and not that long to go before summer starts.
Anyone know anymore
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The original plan was that the flights would operate as a W pattern using the PIK based Astraeus a/c but in recent weeks/months the AEU flight numbers have gone from the Seguro travel website to be replaced by either LTE or "TBA".I am sure that there will be some more changes to times and operators in the next few weeks as Seguro/Kent escapes try to arrange other carriers, so we will just have to wait and see what happens
The original plan was that the flights would operate as a W pattern using the PIK based Astraeus a/c but in recent weeks/months the AEU flight numbers have gone from the Seguro travel website to be replaced by either LTE or "TBA".I am sure that there will be some more changes to times and operators in the next few weeks as Seguro/Kent escapes try to arrange other carriers, so we will just have to wait and see what happens
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Yeah H9 Its one off my dream airlines for MSE 
The Newmarket holidays are sometimes done by EAF 737-200 and for Kent escapes did someone say its being done by a Viking MD-80?, Did someone say the Radar is repaired?
And MSE is DAS Mainteance base so hope they start some cargo flights
Regards
James
The Newmarket holidays are sometimes done by EAF 737-200 and for Kent escapes did someone say its being done by a Viking MD-80?, Did someone say the Radar is repaired?And MSE is DAS Mainteance base so hope they start some cargo flights
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The story so far...
Ok here goes...
"Kentescapes - (which airline is flying the services?) 3x weekly?"
The latest is that it is most probably going to be Viking with MD83's
"Newmarket - several flights this year, any idea of A/C"
Not known yet - prob 737.
"MK -How many flights a week?"
Between 5 and 7 but this fluctuates every week and some going with loads now, rather than ferrying out.
"DAS - What is the state of paly at MSE now they have their license in EU back?"
Despite the news on this forum, no news from DAS and their DC10 is still sitting at MSE (without engines)
"Egypt Cargo - Disappeared recently as someone suggested due to there forwarder agreement breaking down?"
Correct, but there are rumours of another airline taking their place (Ghana was bandied around)
"Air atlanta - Any idea if they will return?"
They have already returned and are continuing with maintenance at MSE ( 2 x 747's in at the moment).
Radar is repaired, awaiting commissioning.
Bravo is repaired, waiting for concrete to cure
Plans have been drawn up for Echo Apron extension, but they are still in the planning stage.
"Kentescapes - (which airline is flying the services?) 3x weekly?"
The latest is that it is most probably going to be Viking with MD83's
"Newmarket - several flights this year, any idea of A/C"
Not known yet - prob 737.
"MK -How many flights a week?"
Between 5 and 7 but this fluctuates every week and some going with loads now, rather than ferrying out.
"DAS - What is the state of paly at MSE now they have their license in EU back?"
Despite the news on this forum, no news from DAS and their DC10 is still sitting at MSE (without engines)
"Egypt Cargo - Disappeared recently as someone suggested due to there forwarder agreement breaking down?"
Correct, but there are rumours of another airline taking their place (Ghana was bandied around)
"Air atlanta - Any idea if they will return?"
They have already returned and are continuing with maintenance at MSE ( 2 x 747's in at the moment).
Radar is repaired, awaiting commissioning.
Bravo is repaired, waiting for concrete to cure
Plans have been drawn up for Echo Apron extension, but they are still in the planning stage.
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How many DC-10's do DAS have now Am I right that the engine less DC-10 at MSE is Boeings and they lsd it to DAS and now its returned to Boeing?
James
Am I right that the engine less DC-10 at MSE is Boeings and they lsd it to DAS and now its returned to Boeing?James
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Management are understandably trying to play down the Virgina cancellations.
It would be a mistake, however, to underestimate it's impact in a wider context. This was a major project for Kent, hugely publicised, and it's failure is significant.
Previously, MSE has enjoyed privileged support from politicians and press.
The wind is now changing.
Leading article from the Isle of Thanet Gazette-
Another fine plan fails to take off
So yet another scheme we had great hopes would help regenerate the area has been grounded.
Kent County Council has pulled out of the deal with plane operator Cosmos just weeks before flights to Virginia were due to start at Manston because of a lack of interest.
Thousands of pounds of taxpayers money spent in promoting the flights has been wasted. Another opportunity lost.
The eco-friendly among us will be rejoicing: no increased jet noise or carbon emissions, and they have a point. We certainly have a responsibility to look after the environment and an airport is not the greenest of businesses.
But this is a massive blow to Thanet's economy and tourist industry. It would have boosted local shops, hotels, restaurants and bars.
The tough question we have to ask is:
"Is Manston viable as an international airport?"
First EUjet folded in 2005 and now the deal with Cosmos has fallen flat.
We don't want to waste any more taxpayer's money. Let's hope a way can be found to improve the isle's economy so everyone can benefit.
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It would be a mistake, however, to underestimate it's impact in a wider context. This was a major project for Kent, hugely publicised, and it's failure is significant.
Previously, MSE has enjoyed privileged support from politicians and press.
The wind is now changing.
Leading article from the Isle of Thanet Gazette-
Another fine plan fails to take off
So yet another scheme we had great hopes would help regenerate the area has been grounded.
Kent County Council has pulled out of the deal with plane operator Cosmos just weeks before flights to Virginia were due to start at Manston because of a lack of interest.
Thousands of pounds of taxpayers money spent in promoting the flights has been wasted. Another opportunity lost.
The eco-friendly among us will be rejoicing: no increased jet noise or carbon emissions, and they have a point. We certainly have a responsibility to look after the environment and an airport is not the greenest of businesses.
But this is a massive blow to Thanet's economy and tourist industry. It would have boosted local shops, hotels, restaurants and bars.
The tough question we have to ask is:
"Is Manston viable as an international airport?"
First EUjet folded in 2005 and now the deal with Cosmos has fallen flat.
We don't want to waste any more taxpayer's money. Let's hope a way can be found to improve the isle's economy so everyone can benefit.
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The Thanet gazzete report i read seems a lot less pessimistic than this.
I cant help but think taht your bringing your own one sided view into this.
Care to give the full article before making a comment.?
I cant help but think taht your bringing your own one sided view into this.
Care to give the full article before making a comment.?
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A lot of people are querying the truth in the rumour that he ban is lifted.
Officially they can fly again from Thursday so expect an announcement on their site midweek. In the meantime here is a mention on the BBC news site.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6418891.stm
The European Union has barred most of the planes of Pakistan International Airlines from flying to the 27-nation bloc because of safety concerns.
The ban affects 35 of the airline's fleet of 42 aircraft, with just seven Boeing 777s exempted.
The EU said last year it would ban flights unless the airline revamped its ageing fleet.
PIA said last week it strongly opposed the planned ban, which it did "not consider justifiable".
The airline's flights to London, Paris, Rome and Amsterdam will be among those affected.
The EU said it based its ruling on safety concerns surrounding the condition of PIA's fleet of 747s and Airbus 310s.
The EU has allowed the airline to continue to operate its flagship 777s.
'Grave consequences'
Last week, a team led by the airline's chairman and the Pakistan envoy to Brussels met with EU representatives to try to resolve the issue.
A PIA statement released after that meeting said it "strongly disagreed with the EU's proposed action and on the given facts does not consider it to be justifiable".
The ban spells further trouble for an airline once regarded as the best in Asia, observers say.
The routes affected are some of the most lucrative for the airline and will be a blow for its revenues, they say.
"I would say we will have to cut at least 15% to 20% of our European operations," a PIA official told Reuters news agency.
PIA took a large cut in its domestic and Middle Eastern revenues after the Pakistani government forced it to ground its outdated Fokker fleet.
The action was taken following a huge public outcry after a number of accidents involving the aircraft, one of which resulted in a crash killing 45 people in July 2006.
Separately, the European Commission, the EU's executive arm, removed Phuket Air of Thailand and the African carrier DAS Air Cargo from its list of banned aircraft after they made safety improvements.
Officially they can fly again from Thursday so expect an announcement on their site midweek. In the meantime here is a mention on the BBC news site.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6418891.stm
The European Union has barred most of the planes of Pakistan International Airlines from flying to the 27-nation bloc because of safety concerns.
The ban affects 35 of the airline's fleet of 42 aircraft, with just seven Boeing 777s exempted.
The EU said last year it would ban flights unless the airline revamped its ageing fleet.
PIA said last week it strongly opposed the planned ban, which it did "not consider justifiable".
The airline's flights to London, Paris, Rome and Amsterdam will be among those affected.
The EU said it based its ruling on safety concerns surrounding the condition of PIA's fleet of 747s and Airbus 310s.
The EU has allowed the airline to continue to operate its flagship 777s.
'Grave consequences'
Last week, a team led by the airline's chairman and the Pakistan envoy to Brussels met with EU representatives to try to resolve the issue.
A PIA statement released after that meeting said it "strongly disagreed with the EU's proposed action and on the given facts does not consider it to be justifiable".
The ban spells further trouble for an airline once regarded as the best in Asia, observers say.
The routes affected are some of the most lucrative for the airline and will be a blow for its revenues, they say.
"I would say we will have to cut at least 15% to 20% of our European operations," a PIA official told Reuters news agency.
PIA took a large cut in its domestic and Middle Eastern revenues after the Pakistani government forced it to ground its outdated Fokker fleet.
The action was taken following a huge public outcry after a number of accidents involving the aircraft, one of which resulted in a crash killing 45 people in July 2006.
Separately, the European Commission, the EU's executive arm, removed Phuket Air of Thailand and the African carrier DAS Air Cargo from its list of banned aircraft after they made safety improvements.
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Gazette Leading Article - Virginia Cancellations
H9-
Not sure what you are on about.
The leading article of a newspaper is usually written by the editor and reflects the editorial position of the publication (sometimes called the "leader" or "editorial")
I have quoted the full article from Friday 2nd March.
The local press have hitherto given massive plugs to MSE, so this article represents a substantial shift. Like so many of us, they appear to be losing faith in the project.
Not sure what you are on about.
The leading article of a newspaper is usually written by the editor and reflects the editorial position of the publication (sometimes called the "leader" or "editorial")
I have quoted the full article from Friday 2nd March.
The local press have hitherto given massive plugs to MSE, so this article represents a substantial shift. Like so many of us, they appear to be losing faith in the project.
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The Press make most of the storys up as they go-along The DAS website as been updated.Also it was good seeing three Jumbos Land on Sunday
James
The DAS website as been updated.Also it was good seeing three Jumbos Land on Sunday James
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A friend, who is a reasonably well placed and respected investment bod in "The City" tells me that Infratril are "reviewing" their UK and European Airport Investments.
He tells me that when this information comes through the City, it usually means the Company concerned has given up and is bailing out.
Given the woeful revenue stream and constantly increasing debt Manston is incurring, is it any suprise?
He tells me that when this information comes through the City, it usually means the Company concerned has given up and is bailing out.
Given the woeful revenue stream and constantly increasing debt Manston is incurring, is it any suprise?