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Old 15th Apr 2007, 21:37
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"Shorthaul local pax may well devolve to SEN, LYX etc".

Only IF they can increase their runway length.

P.S Don't forget everone one will be flying to Margate soon, when Spain is to hot and has run out of water!!
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 07:27
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(Kent International handled 2,431 tonnes of freight in March
– a slight improvement on February but more than 70% up on the prior year.)
This just shows how the Airport is growing
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 07:55
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Don't forget everone one will be flying to Margate soon, when Spain is to hot and has run out of water!!
What. And you think Margate will have water??
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 08:47
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I cannot see why Lydd will work as a passenger/freight airport if Manston doesn't.

At least Manston is served by a dual carriageway. Lydd might be nearer Ashford and Folkestone but I suspect in practice it would be quicker for most of the rest of Kent and most of Sussex to get to Manston.
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 15:25
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And you think Margate will have water??
Yeah It have the Sea Why margate its not nice now like the old days with dreamland all gone etc ,I like Ramsgate and Broadstairs. Cargolux start tommorow cant wait to see them, im told its a brilliant week for aircraft this week. And Sky wings have got a new MD-82 from Fly Nordic maybe that be used for the kent escape flights.

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Old 16th Apr 2007, 20:00
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Infratil European Airports traffic statistics worth a look (published today).

Prestwick gets 8 paragraphs.

Manston gets 4 lines.

Allowing for 28 days in Feb, MSE freight down by 8% in March in real terms. Feb was of course, lower than Jan as well.

PIK had an increase from Jan to Feb, and a 35% increase from Feb to March.

PIK still doing well for pax of course.

I guess MSE freight will rise again at some point, and folk will get excited for a bit....

It will yo-yo like this until closure.
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 21:21
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deedave....the voice of doom

"It will yo-yo like this until closure"

C'mon then deedave, if your'e so well informed....when is MSE going to close then?
Let us know so we can all troop down to and be first in line at the job centre.

So what if MSE only got 4 lines in the IAEL stats, all the hard work being done by the MSE staff for freight, Bizjet, private charters, Mil traffic and behind the scenes speaks a great deal. As has already been said on here, IAEL are in it for the long run, in the big scheme of things the airport is just getting going.

There are worse things happening in Thanet now (the awful roads, the planned 1000 new houses at Westwood etc) that warrant more attention, have you wielded your axe in that direction eh?
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 21:27
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Yes, the figures do seem to be a bit yo-yo like but, the frieght does seem to be on a general upward trend and if rumours are to be believed... well we'll find out if and when it happens. As for passengers, there doesn't seem to be any info on this years up take (as you might expect), but I would guess that experiences from last year would reflect on this years figures.

When Infratil took over at MSE they took over a buisiness that was in effect dead. No income at all (apart from TG Aviation) and things could only go up. The make or break in my mind is if they can create enough of a good reputation too keep the upward trend going before the money runs out.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 07:38
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I live close to the flight path, and I see a lot more traffic over the last few months
more large jets and private jets, and mil aircraft of all types.
I have also noticed how the area round the Airport is kept tidy, grass is cut round the terminal.
This is always a good sign that the company cares about the place.
With the high speed trains from Ramsgate in a few years time, a rail link from the airport which was in the thanet plan.
The airport future is very bright.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 08:39
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Newmarket have added a further flight to Verona in June, the first two have sold out. They have 6 flights in total so far in 2007 (Malta, Naples and 4x Verona).

Kent Escapes are selling well, with one flight sold out already.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 11:33
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Lydd redundancies

i guess this news kinda blows your theory out of the water catflaps.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/6562965.stm
This is really bad news for the guys down there as a lot of them picked up jobs at Lydd after leaving KIA after the sad old bad old days of the eujet collapse.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 12:45
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Newmarket have added a further flight to Verona in June, the first two have sold out. They have 6 flights in total so far in 2007 (Malta, Naples and 4x Verona).

Kent Escapes are selling well, with one flight sold out already.

Well thats good news on the passager side it might not be a lot but its something, Has the Cargolux 747 landed at all today?

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Old 17th Apr 2007, 14:27
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The CargoLux flight from Accra is due around 9PM this evening.

Hope the Lydd guys find some new employment ASAP. Know a few that went down there after EuJet went belly up.

Also some year on year Cargo Tonne figures to show its going in the right direction

Oct 05 1,690 Oct 06 2,509
Nov 05 1,344 Nov 06 2,988
Dec 05 1,427 Dec 06 3,052
Jan 06 1,388 Jan 07 2,823
Feb 06 1,338 Feb 07 2,408
Mar 06 1,474 Mar 07 2,431

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Old 17th Apr 2007, 17:13
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The hot weather certainly brought the silly season forward, with all the experts' assertions now crumbling to dust. Unfortunately jobs have gone too.

The Cargolux-deniers have been proved wrong; it was good to see the white mini-bus with Luxembourg plates in the village today.

I understand that serious consideration is being given to extending the runway. There are other big freight contracts being actively worked on.

The only downside is the loss of MKA128 on Sundays, which is now going to Ostend. Am I right in assuming that the EgyptAir flight is enough for forwarders' requirements on a Sunday?
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 17:58
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I see kent Escapes are selling seats for only £19 return SEAT SALE TO FARO & ALICANTE! for some dates in may this will fill the planes up in the run up to the the main holiday season.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 18:42
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"i guess this news kinda blows your theory out of the water catflaps."

On the contrary. It seems pretty clear to me that this is a tactic to ramp up pressure on the local planning authority. Zak Deir says that he doesn't have the luxury of waiting indefinitely for planning permission for his new runway and terminal. I think they'll give him the green light as soon as the elections are out of the way.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 19:28
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Comment on a previous post about extending the MSE runway?

Why in the world would the runway here at Manston need extending if a cargolux 744 can land there? What else of significantly bigger size are they expecting?

Anyway care to expand:
"There are other big freight contracts being actively worked on"?


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Old 17th Apr 2007, 19:35
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The current 2752m of runway is fine for inbound loads but insufficient for long haul outbound loads of say the 747-400F.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 19:37
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Extending the runway

Is it something to do with a fully laden B747 (cargo and fuel) needing more length to take off ?????
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but are most aircraft out of Manston ferrying out or only carrying a part load ?
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 20:27
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I know before xmas fully loaded MK 747's were going out to tripoli with oil drilling stuff.
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