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Cargolux are due in on 17-4-07, 1 a week to try out the services 75T inbound.
Atlas Air have 1 arriving on the 18-4-07 and 1 on 19-4-07 both with A1 racing cars on board.
Air Atlanta 747-4F running some MK routes while they are having work carried out on their 747-2s.
Things are getting there slowly but surely
Atlas Air have 1 arriving on the 18-4-07 and 1 on 19-4-07 both with A1 racing cars on board.
Air Atlanta 747-4F running some MK routes while they are having work carried out on their 747-2s.
Things are getting there slowly but surely
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I think I know now whats going on with the MK 747-200Fs I think they are having Engines changes too P&W Anyway great news that Cargolux are starting in April. Anyone now how well the Kent escape hoildays are going? (Bookings etc?)
All the best
James
All the best
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Just took a spin through Manston. It's as quiet as a grave. In fact, it looks rather like a grave. There are more dead aircraft on the airfield than live ones. Four dead ones, no live ones, by my reckoning. DAS DC10 without any engines is parked smack in the middle of the passenger apron. Where else could you do that over Easter? The area has had benefactors in the past. Most of them bequeathed land and buildings which have been of benefit to the local comunity. Infratil are spending millions and there's nothing to show for it. Mind you, the second-hand car dealer seems to be doing a good trade. Didn't someone say he was going to be shut down? A shame in my opinion. He's the only one creating any employment up there. As I left, a piece of tumbleweed rolled across the road in front of my Volvo. Was that Lee Van Cleef or was it SF?
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What was the point of that last post, catflaps?
I'm sure there are numerous airfields around the UK where it is quiet at times but behind the scenes plenty is happening to sustain or create employment for local people. I remember Prestwick being exceedingly quiet when BAA pulled out and everyone thought that it was going to be turned into a housing estate. However it was saved through hard work and the dedication of its backers and workers. It will always struggle in the face of competition from GLA & EDI (especially on the passenger front) but it has found its niche in cargo, training flights, and military and technical stop-overs. And it is profitable.
I'm sure Infratil are doing some good at MSE and although it will take time, I'm sure there is a future for various forms of aviation related industry at the airfield.
I'm sure there are numerous airfields around the UK where it is quiet at times but behind the scenes plenty is happening to sustain or create employment for local people. I remember Prestwick being exceedingly quiet when BAA pulled out and everyone thought that it was going to be turned into a housing estate. However it was saved through hard work and the dedication of its backers and workers. It will always struggle in the face of competition from GLA & EDI (especially on the passenger front) but it has found its niche in cargo, training flights, and military and technical stop-overs. And it is profitable.
I'm sure Infratil are doing some good at MSE and although it will take time, I'm sure there is a future for various forms of aviation related industry at the airfield.
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I saw a airbus this morning egypt aircargo, and about 17.45 a MK 747 landed.
Aircraft should be in the air not parked on the ground, I think also a private jet also picked up a few passengers this afternoon. with more cargo airlines starting to use MSE things are looking up.
Aircraft should be in the air not parked on the ground, I think also a private jet also picked up a few passengers this afternoon. with more cargo airlines starting to use MSE things are looking up.
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That DC-10 belongs to Boeing and they have it stored at MSE , I am sure they will move it before the Kent escape flights start Catflaps what do you think of the news that Cargolux are starting at MSE?? And I bet another cargo operated starts flying in 2007.
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Hi allanmack,
You ask what was the point of my post. I could ask the same question of many posts which appear on this board. They speak of things all going to plan at Manston, of growing business and of good things to come (though, of course, the poster cannot be specific about what these good things might be). I am simply giving my observations of the airfield. For those who may not live in the region it is sometimes useful to have an eyewitness acount of what is going on. My observation is that the airfield is quiet..very quiet indeed. If you wade through all the bull that is posted on this board you will find that the airport is being used by two or three planes per day. This is quiet, even by Manston's standards. I fail to see any justification for the blind optimism that is so often expressed here.
You ask what was the point of my post. I could ask the same question of many posts which appear on this board. They speak of things all going to plan at Manston, of growing business and of good things to come (though, of course, the poster cannot be specific about what these good things might be). I am simply giving my observations of the airfield. For those who may not live in the region it is sometimes useful to have an eyewitness acount of what is going on. My observation is that the airfield is quiet..very quiet indeed. If you wade through all the bull that is posted on this board you will find that the airport is being used by two or three planes per day. This is quiet, even by Manston's standards. I fail to see any justification for the blind optimism that is so often expressed here.
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What do I think of the news that Cargolux are starting at Manston? I'm not aware that it's news. I'm aware that it is a rumour that has been posted on this bulletin board. Rumour and news are two different things. My view is influenced by this link:
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I'm not sure how the building of a new hangar by Cargolux means they aren't to fly to Manston
I think there will be a few local spotters and no doubt a few from this forum at Manston over this weekend for the Wings and Wheels Weekend. They will also be there in a fortnight for the extra-busy period of cargo flights. Please feel free to brave the tumbleweed and come up to the airport and make yourself known to them so you can all mull over the goings on
I think there will be a few local spotters and no doubt a few from this forum at Manston over this weekend for the Wings and Wheels Weekend. They will also be there in a fortnight for the extra-busy period of cargo flights. Please feel free to brave the tumbleweed and come up to the airport and make yourself known to them so you can all mull over the goings on
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I'm Glad the airport is perceived as Quiet , i was under the impression there was a 74 in the circuit for most of the day yesterday , so there can be no real noise problems if this goes unnoticed by the locals.
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Hi H9,
If you are on about atlas air flights they are only coming in with aload off A1 racing cars for the British Grand prix at Brands Hatch
James
If you are on about atlas air flights they are only coming in with aload off A1 racing cars for the British Grand prix at Brands Hatch
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SOC - Infratil state that Prestwick makes an operating profit. 30% of income is from passenger flights. The net profit or loss is not disclosed.
weevhearditb4 - There is no new cargo facility for just one operator!
weevhearditb4 - There is no new cargo facility for just one operator!
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I also think the airport is quite at times, it always has been.
If you go back to when the new owners took over, what has been achived.
MK came back, Egypt Air Cargo new, AIA seem to using it more, DAS have taken over the old JET hangar bringing in aircraft, cargolux due to start later. Nine extra ramp staff taken on.
Quite a bit of investment in the airport .
On the passenger side Newmarket, more flights this year, Kent escapes three routes.
Progress is slow, but it is a growing Airport.
I think the loss of the USA flights was a shame, but I dont think that route would have worked from anywhere in the UK.
If you go back to when the new owners took over, what has been achived.
MK came back, Egypt Air Cargo new, AIA seem to using it more, DAS have taken over the old JET hangar bringing in aircraft, cargolux due to start later. Nine extra ramp staff taken on.
Quite a bit of investment in the airport .
On the passenger side Newmarket, more flights this year, Kent escapes three routes.
Progress is slow, but it is a growing Airport.
I think the loss of the USA flights was a shame, but I dont think that route would have worked from anywhere in the UK.
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"Progress is slow, but it's a growing airport".
Well, there's no doubt about the growing bit - as in debt - an informed source tells me that Manston is allegedly currently costing Infratil £3m per year.
If that is correct, I fail to see how they, or anyone, can continue to sustain such losses against such a pitiful revenue stream..
You can babble on about the wonders of Cargolux and other "twice a week" cargo flights which will never make any money for the owners, but unless they can establish a passenger of at least 1.5 million per year within the next two years, Manston Airport will be no more.
Well, there's no doubt about the growing bit - as in debt - an informed source tells me that Manston is allegedly currently costing Infratil £3m per year.
If that is correct, I fail to see how they, or anyone, can continue to sustain such losses against such a pitiful revenue stream..
You can babble on about the wonders of Cargolux and other "twice a week" cargo flights which will never make any money for the owners, but unless they can establish a passenger of at least 1.5 million per year within the next two years, Manston Airport will be no more.