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I have no doubt the airline will survive (unless bought out) but there is very little chance of going bankrupt.
With an excellent business model that they are trying to extend into long haul and charter. In recent times they have been at the forfront of development into the charter sector and it looks as EZY is starting to take note of what they are doing and trying to implement this into their own model.
As you say, they have a fortress at LBA only matched by BA at LHR and EZY at LGW (based on competiton) and I think that this will be a major strong hold for the airline in 2008.
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Anybody heard about the 767s coming? Maybe LS are the airline to but MAN back on the map on the long haul market!
With an excellent business model that they are trying to extend into long haul and charter. In recent times they have been at the forfront of development into the charter sector and it looks as EZY is starting to take note of what they are doing and trying to implement this into their own model.
As you say, they have a fortress at LBA only matched by BA at LHR and EZY at LGW (based on competiton) and I think that this will be a major strong hold for the airline in 2008.
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Anybody heard about the 767s coming? Maybe LS are the airline to but MAN back on the map on the long haul market!
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Jet2 at MAN
I think their 737 routes to cities from MAN are numbered and over the coming year I expect to see most or all 737's off to other Jet2 bases for major expansion there. For whatever reason the 737's doing the city runs alongside sunshine stuff hasn't worked out for Jet2 at MAN. To me this does seem strange as since BACON left there were a number of city routes going begging at MAN.
As Easy and Ryanair get their feet in the door at MAN over the next year and picking up more city routes I think Jet2 will end up with just 757's operating to Spain and the Canaries from MAN, and possibly expansion to other sunshine destinations around the med.
As Easy and Ryanair get their feet in the door at MAN over the next year and picking up more city routes I think Jet2 will end up with just 757's operating to Spain and the Canaries from MAN, and possibly expansion to other sunshine destinations around the med.
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Jet2 are not hiding it that they are moving away from city destinations, they are about to drop KRK and BGO from NCL rumour has it.
They want to go down the charter market, and still seat seat only on those flights. Also long haul is on the cards, rumours are stronger than ever that Jet2 will be having the 767 flying around by the winter, first 767 to test the water in NCL where there is zero competition year round. Apparently they have applied to fly to JFK/EWR 3 days a week but have not specified which UK airport the flight will depart from but if the rumour mill is to be trusted then its LBA to JFK on the 757, possibly the new one form TOM that arrives in summer.
Its all going to be interesting and we shall see what happens but I agree, it wont be long before all 737 leave MAN and its a 757 only base with maybe the 767 joining or at least operating into MAN a few times a week.
They want to go down the charter market, and still seat seat only on those flights. Also long haul is on the cards, rumours are stronger than ever that Jet2 will be having the 767 flying around by the winter, first 767 to test the water in NCL where there is zero competition year round. Apparently they have applied to fly to JFK/EWR 3 days a week but have not specified which UK airport the flight will depart from but if the rumour mill is to be trusted then its LBA to JFK on the 757, possibly the new one form TOM that arrives in summer.
Its all going to be interesting and we shall see what happens but I agree, it wont be long before all 737 leave MAN and its a 757 only base with maybe the 767 joining or at least operating into MAN a few times a week.
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Could anybody let me know how Jet2 are finding their self handling stations? I know that they left Servisair at LBA, set up their own operations at MJV and have their own front of house staff at some other bases. Considering that most airlines are out-sourcing their handling, why are Jet2 going the other way and have people found any noticeable improvements, thoughts etc. on all of this?
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In MJV during the summer, most days they have five flights including atleast 2 752s and they often come in within an hour of each other (well, they did last summer) and it was probably better for them to have their own operations out there. I wonder what they did with the staff during winter?
Do LS contract their staff out to other airlines in MJV when they have a quite period? Maybe EZY who don't have many flights there?
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Do LS contract their staff out to other airlines in MJV when they have a quite period? Maybe EZY who don't have many flights there?
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I wonder what they did with the staff during winter?
Apprently the costs of spanish ground handling is stupidly expensive. I don't think Jet2 are allowed to contract their ground handling work out to other UK airlines due to some Spanish law but I could be wrong.
I would like to say that the self handling in Murcia was out of this world. I can't think of a single critisism. The ground crew were all really helpful and cheery, even when stressed dealing with 2 75's and the 73 from EDI all in at the same time.
The avg. 'block-to-block' turnaround time in MJV, for the 757, was 35-40 mins. With a avg pax load of 170-190 per sector thats bloody good. We even beat a Ryanair in and out of MJV (no ATC slots) in a 757. That gave 'em a shock!
Most of our passengers own property around MJV and a friend of mine who is an estate agent used Jet2 7 times last year. That's the sort of pax we should be holding on to and the management should not be affraid to use some 'Bully Boy' tactics on Sleazy and Ryanscare to keep the monopoly on our best routes!!
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Here here 757speedbreaks
I love the MJV route, our pax on that are so nice, i really dont wanna see them going to easyjet.
The groundstaff in MJV are excellent, so friendly! our turn arounds are so quick becuase they have no problem getting on and getting their hands dirty cleaning the aircraft with us! by the time you get half way down the cabin poor Julie is usually halfway up the cabin to meet u! this helps loads!
They team down their are a massive assest, the other self handling bases could take a leaf from their book!
I love the MJV route, our pax on that are so nice, i really dont wanna see them going to easyjet.
The groundstaff in MJV are excellent, so friendly! our turn arounds are so quick becuase they have no problem getting on and getting their hands dirty cleaning the aircraft with us! by the time you get half way down the cabin poor Julie is usually halfway up the cabin to meet u! this helps loads!
They team down their are a massive assest, the other self handling bases could take a leaf from their book!
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Jet2 also employs staff for their sales and supervision at bases where they dont yet self handle. I think this is also good for a pax point of view. Julie is also station manager for ALC and often comes up to help out and is a pleasure to work for and with.
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Isnt it about time Jet2 and GSM merged, to save their fates?
With easyjet making inroads at MAN and Ryanair at EDI, surely its a good idea to combine and survive the onslought...
With easyjet making inroads at MAN and Ryanair at EDI, surely its a good idea to combine and survive the onslought...
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Tristar500: How can you rest your case when you haven't made it? Or is it the same case you made for Jet2 on 1st November?
"Expansion will no doubt follow but with caution and when it does, it will also be successful."
I think we should be told
"Expansion will no doubt follow but with caution and when it does, it will also be successful."
I think we should be told
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01NOV07 - No word of Ryanair expanding at EDI.
DEC07 - Ryanair announcement of expansion at EDI.
With the 'ongoing' issues at GSM and the recent announcement of easyjet aquiring GBAirways, both GSM and Jet2 are about to face extreme competition at their 2 biggest bases ie GSM - EDI - FR/EZY and Jet2 - MAN - EZY.
Yes, Jet2 are a leading force in the lowcost market, but now the competition has stepped up and a merger would not be a bad thing, bringing together 2 low-cost brands with simillar styles and aircraft, taking on established well-financed operations such as EZY and FR.
Lets just say that easyjet and Ryanair are going to have a field day picking up pax from GSM especially and LS.
Simple, get over it and watch what happens...
NEXT...
01NOV07 - No word of Ryanair expanding at EDI.
DEC07 - Ryanair announcement of expansion at EDI.
With the 'ongoing' issues at GSM and the recent announcement of easyjet aquiring GBAirways, both GSM and Jet2 are about to face extreme competition at their 2 biggest bases ie GSM - EDI - FR/EZY and Jet2 - MAN - EZY.
Yes, Jet2 are a leading force in the lowcost market, but now the competition has stepped up and a merger would not be a bad thing, bringing together 2 low-cost brands with simillar styles and aircraft, taking on established well-financed operations such as EZY and FR.
Lets just say that easyjet and Ryanair are going to have a field day picking up pax from GSM especially and LS.
Simple, get over it and watch what happens...
NEXT...
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Jet2's main base is LBA, not MAN. Currently about 10 aircraft based here this winter, with around 12 needed for Summer 2008. Naff all competition at LBA.
Is he trying to circle the wagons at LBA (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes) now that the likes of EZY are moving into MAN?
It will be interesting to see what happens over the next while at MAN.