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With Jet2Holidays in mind, wouldn't the resort of Phuket be a more likely choice of destination than the capital Bangkok? MAN has had charter programmes to Phuket before, but I believe they did tech-stop en route.
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Manchester - Phuket in a 767 is likely to be not possible. The great circle distance is 6205nm, when for example, MAN-CUN is 4850nm.
Great to hear Jet2 are getting 767's though. Any ideas where from, and when they are likely to get them?
Great to hear Jet2 are getting 767's though. Any ideas where from, and when they are likely to get them?
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I would like to see that, but a 777 is an extremely expensive machine requiring alot of high yielding seats on board. Charters simply couldn't make cash on it. The 767 is a perfect charter airline machine, as will be (hopefully) the 787. Perhaps they should order some of those - Boeing would be desperate to shift some more after all the cancellations!!
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I don't think you could do UK-Oz with a 1-stop programme.
I think you meant with 767s but I couldn't resist!
Btw, I think a stop somewhere like HKG could be possible.
Both AV8 & GSM Managed non stop Cape Town fm MAN & there is scope for a Vegas now without BMI on the route. Maldives, Goa, Phuket all possible with stops. Just extra extra capacity on short haul useful too at peaks, so plenty of options for Jet2
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Seems to me that if LS want to fly to exotic places like Hong Kong - jamaica or Florida Mexico et al - Dart will have to buy a proper a/c for the job such as a 747. No point in having to do multi stops with a 767. Pax will not use Jet2 when they can get a better deal with airlines - with a/c designed for the long haul job.
Just my opinion, but they could if using a 767 fly to destinations such as Kenya, rather than the Far East.
Just my opinion, but they could if using a 767 fly to destinations such as Kenya, rather than the Far East.
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We were just mentioning that HKT would be a real money spinner IF they could get a non-stop flight and then that led off track a little...
I do think though, that if they are to stick (mostly) to their current model, then :
Should be on their list. I think that, if they DO get a 767 in, they may use it on short/medium haul next summer, maybe MAN-Turkey/Egypt/Spain and then maybe send it further a field during the winter.
I think a 767 could be really good for Jet2!
I do think though, that if they are to stick (mostly) to their current model, then :
- Las Vegas
- Cape Town
- Sanford
Should be on their list. I think that, if they DO get a 767 in, they may use it on short/medium haul next summer, maybe MAN-Turkey/Egypt/Spain and then maybe send it further a field during the winter.
I think a 767 could be really good for Jet2!
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Not that I have any insider info, because a flying programme for the 767 is miles off, they has not been any cash paid yet, but this would be my own initial guess:
1st a/c at LBA for the summer on a route proving exercises i.e PFO, DLM, TFS etc .. followed by:
2nd a/c at MAN for the likes of DLM, SSH, TLV, TFS & ACE (All very well performing routes for Jet2) and new routes to SFB, GOI and POP, with:
the LBA aircraft moving onto SFB & POP as well as YYZ.
I may be wrong as I believe LBA has the market to support a 767 on a purely short haul network as well as a limited long haul market, where as MAN has the scope for a decent long haul leisure market. Just to add all these current destinations are all well supported by Jet2Holidays and tour operators, in reality meaning for example;
Jet2 only needing to directly sell less than 200 seats on a 767 to the likes of SFB, something I think is very realistic.
A lot of people criticise Mr Meeson, especially some of the staff regarding his pay rise this year, but you have to give it to the man, 5 years ago if someone had said a low cost airline would be flying a 757 to Tenerife a lot would have thought it would be doomed to fail, never mind flying to the likes of Tel Aviv, Sharm and an extensive charter network (Including Dubai and Toronto last year), he knows what makes money and turning more towards the lesiure market will ensure Jet2 remains a successful and growing carrier.
1st a/c at LBA for the summer on a route proving exercises i.e PFO, DLM, TFS etc .. followed by:
2nd a/c at MAN for the likes of DLM, SSH, TLV, TFS & ACE (All very well performing routes for Jet2) and new routes to SFB, GOI and POP, with:
the LBA aircraft moving onto SFB & POP as well as YYZ.
I may be wrong as I believe LBA has the market to support a 767 on a purely short haul network as well as a limited long haul market, where as MAN has the scope for a decent long haul leisure market. Just to add all these current destinations are all well supported by Jet2Holidays and tour operators, in reality meaning for example;
Jet2 only needing to directly sell less than 200 seats on a 767 to the likes of SFB, something I think is very realistic.
A lot of people criticise Mr Meeson, especially some of the staff regarding his pay rise this year, but you have to give it to the man, 5 years ago if someone had said a low cost airline would be flying a 757 to Tenerife a lot would have thought it would be doomed to fail, never mind flying to the likes of Tel Aviv, Sharm and an extensive charter network (Including Dubai and Toronto last year), he knows what makes money and turning more towards the lesiure market will ensure Jet2 remains a successful and growing carrier.
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I agree a 767 would be good for LS.
You make a few points in your post. Turkey IMO should be expanded from MAN - I think there is only one destination from Manchester to Dalmatian, wherever that is. What about Bodrum and Altinkum?.
Also Greece is another, LS fly to Kos and Crete and Rhodes I think, yet no route to the popular Corfu.
Longer Haul - Las Vegas is 5087 miles from MAN, so would be just about doable with a 767.
Would make sense - But was the first departure to New York not from Leeds?.
You make a few points in your post. Turkey IMO should be expanded from MAN - I think there is only one destination from Manchester to Dalmatian, wherever that is. What about Bodrum and Altinkum?.
Also Greece is another, LS fly to Kos and Crete and Rhodes I think, yet no route to the popular Corfu.
Longer Haul - Las Vegas is 5087 miles from MAN, so would be just about doable with a 767.
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Obviously, we just ASSUME the aircraft will be at MAN...
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Las Vegas would be more than doable, given that BA flew a couple of hundred miles further non-stop to LAX. Even MAN-HKG shows a great circle map distance shorter than MAN-CPT, though whether the practicality of 767s operating such a route is slightly debatable as HKG is one of those destinations that has quite a large number of pax routing via LHR, so would be more in the remit of Cathay Pacific who ought to be able to get a portion of the business traffic that would warrant a 3 weekly servce minimum.
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LBA-JFK will never happen at Jet2, it is going ahead in the form of a charter programme for next christmas again but nothing more than just a couple of flights will ever materialise.
Should long haul happen at Jet2, it will be from MAN to start with, however the first routes flown on the 767 will be from LBA due to the large Jet2 infrastructure available at LBA to get 767 operations up and running.
This is assuming the aircraft do actually come, 757's have been rejected in the past due to their condition so we may see the same with the 767, also baring in mind if its a Rolls Royce bird (maybe ex BA/QF?) there may be some further performance issues from LBA. Time will tell but exciting times ahead at Jet2.
Should long haul happen at Jet2, it will be from MAN to start with, however the first routes flown on the 767 will be from LBA due to the large Jet2 infrastructure available at LBA to get 767 operations up and running.
This is assuming the aircraft do actually come, 757's have been rejected in the past due to their condition so we may see the same with the 767, also baring in mind if its a Rolls Royce bird (maybe ex BA/QF?) there may be some further performance issues from LBA. Time will tell but exciting times ahead at Jet2.
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Airtours/MyTravel then Thomas Cook all operated Las Vegas non stop on Boeing 767-300 aircraft. I even think Leisure Intl/Air 2000 did the same.
Although im not sure if LAS would be a viable route for LS as TCX operate from MAN, then you have CO, US, DL, AA with one change, and also BA start there LHR service this month which i think is daily, along with VS from LGW again Daily.
My money would be on SFB initialy.
Although im not sure if LAS would be a viable route for LS as TCX operate from MAN, then you have CO, US, DL, AA with one change, and also BA start there LHR service this month which i think is daily, along with VS from LGW again Daily.
My money would be on SFB initialy.